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Newcastle a big club ?
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Depends how you judge 'big' - trophies, fanbase, revenues etc but Newcastle are nowhere near it and seem to have constant delusions of grandeur, changing their manager so often does not help obviously.
IMHO the big clubs from the PL are all in the CL, with quite a few putting pressure on the big 4 which is great to see.
And Mr Alan Man Utd are currently the 'biggest' club in England without question - current champions, current leaders, largest global fanbase, doubled profits last financial year, largest revenues (I think) and a fantastic & successful history
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rough order is right!
switch those two around and ya might be onto something!
Of all of the fans on this site who are obsessed with another club that they dont support u take the cake!!
I am somewhat obsessed with newcy tho, cos I went to skool with 3 Newcastle fans and listenin to them got Newcastle the nickname of Real Madrid in our school. Delusional.0 -
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Stuff yiz. This time.Archimedes wrote: »Im aware you support Villa Come Monday, I predict a that 3 to become a 4...0 -
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Deleted User wrote: »Surrounding all the speculation on the next Newcastle manager with names like Mourinho being mentioned and so on . Is it just me or does anybody else think Newcastle are not a big club. I mean they have great support although i did meet the fans on one occasion and they had nothing but bad things to say about the Irish (being polite)
But they seem to be in this illusion that they are one of the superclubs of the UK. When asked , what have they done ? Well nobody has an answer for that as they have done nothing . They have had some of the greatest strikers in the world play for them but they have done nothing .
If we are measuring by croud size Sunderland are up there also .
Personally i see them as a mid table team with delusions of grandeur.
What does anybody else think ?Deleted User wrote: »Why is it people constantly forget that Blackburn actually won the Premiership?
Man U
Arsenal
Chelsea
Blackburn
Then:
Liverpool
Spurs
Villa
Everton
Newcastle
People forget cause its a long time ago now, and they have a ****e stadium, ****e fanbase and have done nothing since.Deleted User wrote: »Of all of the fans on this site who are obsessed with another club that they dont support u take the cake!!
In fairness Neil my old flower, i simply pointed out that Liverpool are the most successful club ever in England. No denying that. Even by you.Deleted User wrote: »I put that list being clubs who had won the Premiership. Blackburn have won it and Liverpool have not is that incorrect? Hence Blackburn go into the list that the OP posted about success since the PREMIERSHIP began?? And Liverpool do not. So i dont see the hilarity.
Now at the top of this post is the post that started this thread, maybe my eyes are acting up, but i see no mention of this being from when the premiership started?
Football did not begin with the arrival of the Premier League, as much as Utd fans and Sky might like to have you believe otherwise.
This thread is about the biggest/most successful clubs in England.
thats us mate, by a mile when you take into consideration that European competition holds the most prestige by a long shot. and we have 5 compared to your 2. me and you'll be in a retirement home when ye reach 5, and thats if ye ever do, which, lets be honest going at the rate you are clocking em up, ye probably wont
18 + 5 > 16/17? + 2.
end of that discussion.
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Newcastle are not a big club. Big Stadium. Their last manager had a big head. But not a big club.
If they are, i propose Sheffield Wednesday should also be included 0 -
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wat a suprise!!!! a manc and an evertonian disagree!
in every other Italy/Spain the CL is more important, Fergie would trade up the league this year for another CL and Jose got the bullet for never winning it with Chelsea.
as i said, the league only takes on massive importance when its been a long time since you've won it like with Liverpool at the minute.0 -
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good thing we aint in England so
remember,we aint talking about wat the fans prefer, we are talking about wat makes a club "bigger" and undoubtadly the CL is the bigger trophy (and no smart arses, i dont mean in size, i mean in stature)0 -
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Mr Alan in fairness you're only saying the CL is a bigger trophy than the PL because Liverpool have won it - its' not and I fully agree with what PHB said - you can get lucky in a cup but the league is the true test and separates the men from the boys, with UTD being the men obviously and Liverpool being the boys 0
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My post was listing the clubs who've actually won the Premiership in the order of who has won it the most. This post confirms one thing to me and that is that you see what you want to see. i clearly just explained that my post was from a Premiership perspective only, and did not include the Cup competitions, but u chose to ignore that so u could post this rubbish about how i supposedly claimed Blackburn to be more successful than Liverpool. And to call me a troll for it is offensive and shows what kind of fool u are to have ignored the fact that i already explained it was a list of Premiership winners, just so u could get that in.If you think Blackburn have had more success than Liverpool since the Premiership began, you're really clueless.
Liverpool: FA Cup wins in 1992, 2001, 2006
Champions League in 2005
Uefa Cup in 2001
European Super Cup in 2001 and 2005
League Cup in 1995, 2001, 2003
Blackburn: Premier League in 1995
League Cup in 2002
Thats not even including how many seasons Liverpool have outperformed them in pretty much every competition. Your post was ridiculous at best, and trolling at worst, how does 1 Premiership win have any relevance to who have been the more successful club, which is of course the topic of this thread. I suggest you take those Man Utd coloured blinkers off and start making a slight bit of sense because you're coming off as nothing short of ridiculous.
I never have denied that? but dont u think that its a bit funny that u point this out almost every second post u make. Seems u have a complex about how quickly we're catchin upMr Alan wrote:In fairness Neil my old flower, i simply pointed out that Liverpool are the most successful club ever in England. No denying that. Even by you.Mr Alan wrote:Now at the top of this post is the post that started this thread, maybe my eyes are acting up, but i see no mention of this being from when the premiership started?
No but the original post i quoted had the part where he analysed it from when the Premiership began. So I discussed this topic from that point of view alone and have since been jumped on by DSB who has now twice ignored my pointing this out to him and continued to insist that I meant Blackburn to be more successful than Liverpool since the PL began when I did no such thing.
Again just to reiterate, i never said it did. United have a lot more history than 93 onwards mate, as you'll learn about in Feb if u watch the derby. But again, the reason i was talking from a Premiership point of view alone is because I was quoting anohter poster who originally looked at it from that and was elaborating on his pointMr Alan wrote:Football did not begin with the arrival of the Premier League, as much as Utd fans and Sky might like to have you believe otherwise.
Speaking of going rates, we'll be hittin 30 before u hit 20, then whatll the argument be?!Mr Alan wrote:This thread is about the biggest/most successful clubs in England.
thats us mate, by a mile when you take into consideration that European competition holds the most prestige by a long shot. and we have 5 compared to your 2. me and you'll be in a retirement home when ye reach 5, and thats if ye ever do, which, lets be honest going at the rate you are clocking em up, ye probably wont
18 + 5 > 16/17? + 2.
end of that discussion.
Again, particularly to DSB, (who by the way if u resort to callin me a troll over this again i will be reporting your post - dont ignore me when I clearly explain my post just so u can throw in the cheap shots, says an awful lot about your character, or lack of), go back and read my posts in this thread and find the one where I quote the guy talking about the records since the PL startd. i took it from a LEAGUE perspective alone and ignored Cup competitions (particularly the League cup!!) and hence how Blackburn made it onto that list ahead of Liverpool. I NEVER claimed Blackburn or United or anyone else to be more successful than Liverpool so drop that argument from now on and keep it on topic and refrain frompointless ****e about my "knowledge of football being nonexistant cos I think Liverpool < Blackburn" and stick to talking about things i actually said.0 -
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