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Vote For Gay Marriage On Ireland.com

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  • 14-01-2008 1:43pm
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    markw999
    Registered Users Posts: 202 ✭✭


    Got this in my email from GCN's EZine:

    "Today in the Irish Times a 'Head 2 Head' debate on gay marriage was published. LGBT Noise activist Eloise McInerney says everyone should have the right to choose marriage. Please take a moment to vote on this debate now!

    A major aim of LGBT Noise is obtain a large media impact to educate the public about the urgent need that gay couples have for civil marriage, and to continuously remind the government that this is not a need that can easily be ignored.

    To get this process started, Eloise McInerney who is Noise's communication officer has written a gay civil marriage article that is being published in the Irish Times on Monday in the "Head to Head" section.

    It allows you to vote on the debate topic (In our case, in favour of gay civil marriage!) and also allows you to enter your own comments on the debate.

    We are actively encouraging all members the LGBT community (and friends and family) to vote and comment on this debate, particularly regarding their personal circumstances and how the lack of gay civil marriage affects them.

    This poll, and the comments, are widely read, and will provide an invaluable platform for people to speak out about the current inequality for gay couples.

    Noise will continue, with your help, to work under the ethos that unless all Irish LGBT people and their friends make enough NOISE, our Government will continue to avoid this crucial issue.

    So vote early and often: http://www.ireland.com/head2head/"

    Currently the vote is 77% for it and 23% against.


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    Marshy
    Registered Users Posts: 1,601 ✭✭✭Marshy


    Yeah some interesting comments there. Seems like it'll rest somewhere around 80-20 in favour.


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    markw999
    Registered Users Posts: 202 ✭✭markw999


    That seems to be the general consensus of the polls that I've read.


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    azezil
    Registered Users Posts: 11,397 ✭✭✭✭azezil


    81% to 19% now :)


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    Rick_
    Registered Users Posts: 2,610 ✭✭✭Rick_


    Just voted... It's now 82% for and 18% against.


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    ixoy
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 17,992 Mod ✭✭✭✭ixoy


    And now 83% for and 17% against. I'd discourage people on voting often though -that just skews the polls even further than the voting by a dedicated minority.

    The comments are interesting because they attack the fairly weak argument against gay marriage, typically "won't somebody please think of the children!" (when that isn't even the topic on hand).


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    Stark
    Registered Users Posts: 20,978 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    Was there a failed "free child with every gay marriage" proposal that I missed? Because they seem to keep harping on as if there was.


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    Marshy
    Registered Users Posts: 1,601 ✭✭✭Marshy


    ixoy wrote: »
    The comments are interesting because they attack the fairly weak argument against gay marriage, typically "won't somebody please think of the children!" (when that isn't even the topic on hand).
    Yeah there was one particular chap blabbering out mindless rubbish. He went on saying how the "gay agenda" indoctrinates youngsters making them embrace homosexuality. He also said homosexuality was unnatural behaviour. Talk about losing all of one's credibility...


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    ixoy
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 17,992 Mod ✭✭✭✭ixoy


    Marshy wrote: »
    Yeah there was one particular chap blabbering out mindless rubbish. He went on saying how the "gay agenda" indoctrinates youngsters making them embrace homosexuality. He also said homosexuality was unnatural behaviour. Talk about losing all of one's credibility...
    Yes that was probably Joe, who tried to cover his intense bigotry saying everyone could live as they wanted, but that he didn't want to be exposed to it. It's a sort of perverse sociological nimbyism that's almost more repellent than those who at least stand openly beside their prejudices.

    The "against" posters seem fixated on the point that marriage is about children and that the various tax incentives are brought with that in mind. So then why aren't fertility tests imposed on straight couples? Why not annul those marriages that fail to produce mewling offspring within the first eighteen months? After all surely they're abusing the notion of marriage as various posters seem to wish to define it.
    Perhaps then it's because there's more to it than that - that it's the recognition of commitment to a person unto death and to thus enshrine it in legal protection. To give the rights of inheritance and the right to be by their side in sickness and in health.
    Arguing that this could be abused is ridiculous as it would mean ignoring the fact that guys and girls that are friends can currently marry. It's a bizarrely blinded view, perhaps hindered too much by groping around in their self-imposed darkness for some thin crutch to support the shaking weight of their argument.


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