Europe is biggest threat - US security chief

rossie1977

an american posted this video on another forum, it scared the s*it out of me because these guys were planning this 20 years ago and nearly everything they planned has come to pass

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxz06SwfnlU

Mr.Micro

Michael J**koff of homeland security is clearly justifying the continued existence of his department. Lets see, our last terrorist attack was 2001, need to remind people that we are still needed. The US will not be happy until we all have barcodes. Just the other day Bush going on about Iran as the number one sponsor of terror. Give us a break its all BS. Next they will be saying that country has WMD and part of the axis of evil. Lets invade and liberate.

Morlar

Mr.Micro wrote: »

Lets see, our last terrorist attack was 2001, need to remind people that we are still needed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents%2C_2007

There have been a few foiled attempts since 9/11. I think their plan is to be pro-active in preventing as much as reactive to if they happen.

Manic Moran

ScumLord wrote: »

I can't think of an American sidearm manufacturer.

Smith & Wesson? Browning? Colt? Springfield Armory? Kimber? This isn't counting the speciality sidearm manufacturers such as the large industry in customised 1911s.

There's an American law which states that any major weapon system used by the US must be made in the US. Legally speaking, for example, the Berettas that the US Army uses as its standard sidearm, are made by Beretta USA, an American company, in Maryland if I recall. As a result, I'm not sure if they count as an arms export or not when tallying the total figures. I'm inclined to think 'not' though, as legally speaking there are no contracts between the US Government and the Italian company. Firearms manufacturers can afford to go through the expense of setting up US subsidiaries as the US market is so huge, it's self-sustaining.

NTM

Overheal

I wonder who's really silly here: The US administration or anyone who takes them seriously.

Mr.Micro

Morlar wrote: »

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents%2C_2007

There have been a few foiled attempts since 9/11. I think their plan is to be pro-active in preventing as much as reactive to if they happen.

No dispute there, but the US cannot police the world or continue to force their crazy schemes on the rest of the world. It is like MCCarthyism all over again. Its election year so its probably just posturing.

coyote6

Ron Paul is the only one running for Pres. who seems to make any sense. He speaks his vision of the U.S. as a "non-interventionist" state. He's not getting much traction because he wants to make some deep changes that return the U.S. to the principles found in the constitution....imagine that!

Terry

coyote6 wrote: »

Ron Paul is the only one running for Pres. who seems to make any sense. He speaks his vision of the U.S. as a "non-interventionist" state. He's not getting much traction because he wants to make some deep changes that return the U.S. to the principles found in the constitution....imagine that!

And he has a porn star type name.

fly_agaric

Well, I just hope that whatever new security checks they are thinking of bringing in to deal with muslims with EU passports are also imposed on Americans coming to Europe.

...Whadaya mean I've got to be fingerprinted, photographed, and anally probed by GNIB officers! I'm an American cityzin!...LOL:D

Naos

Damnit.

On the way home from a recent trip to Hawaii, I lost that small green form you must hand into depatures (Leaving the U.S) which basically says you have left the country.

According to the staff working there, it will be like I have never left and I will get hassle the next time I try to enter the states.

I offered to go to my embassy when I went home and they simply said "There is no point, just expect hassle next time you try enter the United States Sir."

Nice one.

ejmaztec

I seem to remember a Cheech Marin movie where he was mistaken for a Mexican illegal and tried umpteen times to get back across the border after being deported.

What if a large proportion of Americans, for one reason or another, were refused re-entry after a trip abroad.

Mr.Micro

...Whadaya mean I've got to be fingerprinted, photographed, and anally probed by GNIB officers! I'm an American cityzin!...LOL:D[/QUOTE]

they would probably enjoy they latter part:D

ScumLord

fly_agaric wrote: »

Well, I just hope that whatever new security checks they are thinking of bringing in to deal with muslims with EU passports are also imposed on Americans coming to Europe.

We already punish them a little bit with the EU line and the everybody else line. I always laugh when I zip by in our EU line and see the look on the faces of the yanks who've been stuck there all morning.

Terry

ScumLord wrote: »

We already punish them a little bit with the EU line and the everybody else line. I always laugh when I zip by in our EU line and see the look on the faces of the yanks who've been stuck there all morning.

EU line?

Anyway, if they are going to impose these rules on us, then they deserve the same.
After all, it was American residents who carried out that twin towers thing. Do we want that type of person over here?

Manic Moran

Terry wrote: »

EU line?

You don't travel by air much outside of Europe?

Go to the US, land at JFK. There are 24 passport inspectors, 23 of them are in lanes marked "US Citizens Only", and there's one for "All others". The line goes back out to the runway.

To return the favour: Arrive at Heathrow, Amsterdam or Paris, and you get exactly the same thing: 8 of 10 lanes seem to be marked "EU Passport Holders Only", and you get quite the Spanish Inquisition when going through one of the "Outside the EU" lines. There's a reason Heathrow is known as Deathrow in the US: You feel like you're going to die standing in line for ever.

NTM

WhiteWashMan

Kev_ps3 wrote: »

The US Secretary for Homeland Security, Michael Chertoff, has said terrorists from Europe now represent the biggest terrorist and security threat to his country.

I think the point is he feels the biggest threat comes from entry into the US from European soil, rather than European nationalists.

Nothing in what was quoted makes me feel that the US feels that the EU as a nation of states is a threat to US security.

Reku

Naos wrote: »

Damnit.

On the way home from a recent trip to Hawaii, I lost that small green form you must hand into depatures (Leaving the U.S) which basically says you have left the country.

According to the staff working there, it will be like I have never left and I will get hassle the next time I try to enter the states.

I offered to go to my embassy when I went home and they simply said "There is no point, just expect hassle next time you try enter the United States Sir."

Nice one.

Emm... a coworker of a relative had this happen and they were refused entry the following time they tried to go to the US as the customs officials assumed that they had been there illegally (for whatever period they may have remained before they left since there was no official record of them having left) before so seriously get this sorted ASAP!

Manic Moran

I'm inclined to agree. Get an Irish entry stamp on your passport, or swing by the US Embassy for whatever they provide. I used to travel into the US on a US passport, and into Ireland on an Irish passport: Save on both lanes! Unfortunately, the US passport control picked up on all the entry stamps for the US and no indications of leaving the country. I got dragged aside and questioned over it in a back room.

NTM