Pick Irelands new Government Now!

DublinWriter

snyper wrote: »

what i want to know is what party you think could do a better job running the country

None of the above, muppets all with the exception of a few individuals.

We basically load all our frustrations about a failing and over-beaurocratic civil service on politicians.

The more and more I see, the more and more I realise that the public-sector are starting to become the cancer to the corpus of Ireland's recent economic progress.

In common with a cancer, they are multiplying in size, self-serving and devouring the host body until it can no longer function.

Case in point, the HSE, employing roughly 100,000 clerical and administrative grade staff - basically paper-pushers with no medical qualifications and who have no direct contact with the clients of the HSE.

I didn't vote in the last election because basically there was no-one worth voting for.

murphaph

Colonel Sanders wrote: »

1. FG led government, people seem to forget how successful the last rainbow coalition was

2. Yes

3. Yes (gave the 3 FG candidates 1-2-3 in my area)

PS I have absolutely no party allegance (apart from dispising everything FF stand for), I was voting to try minimise the chance of another FF led government

+1 except I voted FG/LAB/Joe Higgins to try to oust the smug Brian Lenihan from office. It failed and FF are back laughing at us again. We must be a sado-masochistic electorate.

It seems every day I hear of some screw up or other in our legislation (the primary purpose of any elected government!). Today it was the revelation that the Dept. of Education has paid a record sum to a builder for a site for a school in a housing development. The green spaces must be transfered to the local authority free of charge according to recent legislation but they 'forgot' to include the same provision for land for schools.

People who think FF are god's gift to government really need to get their heads out of their collective @rses. They are not all that good and that's before we start talking about corruption.

murphaph

DublinWriter wrote: »

None of the above, muppets all with the exception of a few individuals.

We basically load all our frustrations about a failing and over-beaurocratic civil service on politicians.

The more and more I see, the more and more I realise that the public-sector are starting to become the cancer to the corpus of Ireland's recent economic progress.

In common with a cancer, they are multiplying in size, self-serving and devouring the host body until it can no longer function.

Case in point, the HSE, employing roughly 100,000 clerical and administrative grade staff - basically paper-pushers with no medical qualifications and who have no direct contact with the clients of the HSE.

I didn't vote in the last election because basically there was no-one worth voting for.

won't disagree with any of that but I would add.......which government agreed to the Benchmarking model in relation to the payment of said civil servants?

That will be a decision that haunts the taxpayer for a generation.

At the end of the day, the government are elected to govern. They must take ultimate responsibility for a bloated and inefficient public sector.

_JOE_

1.FF(personal opinion is that they would be more successful considering that it is not just a one person government and the individual work of the FF TDs should be considered too)
2.Yes
3.Yes

bill_ashmount

DublinWriter wrote: »

None of the above, muppets all with the exception of a few individuals.

We basically load all our frustrations about a failing and over-beaurocratic civil service on politicians.

The more and more I see, the more and more I realise that the public-sector are starting to become the cancer to the corpus of Ireland's recent economic progress.

In common with a cancer, they are multiplying in size, self-serving and devouring the host body until it can no longer function.

Case in point, the HSE, employing roughly 100,000 clerical and administrative grade staff - basically paper-pushers with no medical qualifications and who have no direct contact with the clients of the HSE.

I didn't vote in the last election because basically there was no-one worth voting for.

Wow, someone who thinks along the same lines as me

DublinWriter if you set up a party, you may get a vote down in Cork

Tommy T

murphaph wrote: »

Listen here you. One of the major shareholders in the Corrib Gas Field (a national asset given away by FF, probably for a few quid in a brown envelope-filthy ba$tards) is a state run company called Statoil (you see it in the name now don't you Snyper: Statoil?!). It is Norwegian. It pays for one of the finest healthcare systems in the world (amongst other social services of course).

So, in summation, OUR hydrocarbon reserves (possibly oil) will pay for better social services in NORWAY.

Statoil got luicky because they have an unending oiol supply on their dorstep.

Can you begin to imagine an Irish State oil exploration company going out looking to strike it rich?

The expenses are truly astronimical...

Elmo

1. Labour and the Greens
2. Yes
3. Yes

In an ideal world

FF and FG would form a government so we could actually have an opposition of either right or left. Depending on who gets in to government.

In an ideal world

Mary Harney wouldn't be Minister for Health.

It looks like all the PDs who vote are on Boards. I hope they get around to merging with FG and FF.

Akrasia

1. The monster raving loony party

2. yes (getting on a bit now)

3 No, Anarchists don't tend to vote in general elections.

IRLConor

snyper wrote: »

1. What party do you believe would be a more successful government?

There is no party in Irish politics that fits the bill perfectly. I roughly summarise them as follows:

• Fianna Fáil - Some blend of too much corporate influence, incompetence and mediocre sit-on-the-fence-centrism. Not the worst of the bunch, but they shouldn't be where they are.
• Fine Gael - Indistinguishable from FF as far as I can see. Might be a slightly different blend, but it's hard to tell.
• Labour Party - Owned by the unions. Sometimes think they're socialist, other times think they are a slightly more leftish FF. I think they're positioned to get votes from people who feel guilty if they don't vote "left" but couldn't really vote socialist.
• Green Party - Pretty good actually, the closest to my views of the bunch. Pity they don't stand up for their policies now that they're in government. (Or if they do stand up for themselves, be more vocal about it.)
• Sinn Féin - I can't vote for these in good conscience due to their northern "work".
• Progressive Democrats - Concentrated extract of FF.
• <Assorted socialist/Marxist/Trotskyist/communist parties> - Relics of the industrial revolution IMHO.
• <Assorted single-issue parties> - I can't evaluate a party correctly unless they provide a pretty comprehensive description of their plans for government.

So pretty much no-one, but the Greens come close. My strategy for voting in the past has been to examine the politicians in my constituency and vote based on their published policies AND their apparent competence AND their apparent intelligence. So far that has led me to vote for a blend of FF, FG and Green politicians.

snyper wrote: »

2. Are you over 18 and Registered to vote?

Yes and yes. I've voted in every election that I've been eligible for and for which I've been in the country (and I would have voted in the rest if I could have had a postal vote).

snyper wrote: »

3. Did you vote in the last general election?

Yes.

duggie-89 wrote: »

and TommyT personally i think there should be a state run oil company to develop it and return the resources to the people and not to some foregin rich bussiness man. irelands wealth for ireland

Aren't state-run companies like that no longer kosher in the EU?

Besides, what the hell do politicians know about oil extraction? The less control they have over stuff they don't understand the better. If you want to get "Ireland's Wealth for Ireland" the answer is to apply taxes appropriately.