3870X2 out next week.

TerrorFirmer

http://www.tomshardware.com/2008/01/15/amd_moving_up_launch_of_dual_gpu_graphics_card/

TheThreeDegrees

please please please kick nvidia's ass to hell with this one:)

Anti

It'll probably be faster then a 8800gtx, but then again nvidia are ready to launch the 9800 which will decimate it, if the 9600 performance is anything to go by.

TerrorFirmer

It all depends on the price...anyone have any guess? I'd say about 320 euro here...anything much more would just uneconomical.

Grim.

am waiting till the second half of the year before ill upgrade my gfx card i want to see what else nvidia have up there sleeve

Sqaull20

Seems these are the final clocks for the card according to VR-Zone:


R680 final clocks :

825MHz core
1800MHz memories
110W lowest TDP w/ PowerPlay
190W max. TDP w/ PowerPlay



So each core is clocked 50 Mhz faster than the single RV670 cards,but the memory runs slower by about 200 Mhz.....

Only thing that comes to mind here is that the AA penality should be further reduced since with the higher core clock speeds,the shader core also runs faster as well.


As for the memory though,unless there's tweaks to the way the cores use available memory bandwith,the HD 3870 X2 should be a bit slower than 2 HD 3870's in crossfire in memory bandwith limited cases.

papu

http://www.dollarshops.eu/product_info.php/products_id/2778

399 dollars

Hendrix89

Can't wait to see proper benchmarks. If they are mindblowing then I might get two if the price is right. Don't know if I can hold out for the gx2...

PogMoThoin

Hendrix89 wrote: »

Can't wait to see proper benchmarks. If they are mindblowing then I might get two if the price is right. Don't know if I can hold out for the gx2...

2 of them would be a waste m8, your mobo (same as mine) only does 16x + 4x so its the price of 2 gpu's for 25% extra speed. Just get one m8 until you upgrade to x38 or x48 which support 16x + 16x crossfire.

I'm thinkin bout gettin one myself, just waitin on proper benchies

Hendrix89

PogMoThoin wrote: »

2 of them would be a waste m8, your mobo (same as mine) only does 16x + 4x so its the price of 2 gpu's for 25% extra speed. Just get one m8 until you upgrade to x38 or x48 which support 16x + 16x crossfire.

I'm thinkin bout gettin one myself, just waitin on proper benchies

Probably will just get one for now. When I jump to x48 on it's release (whens that btw?) I might throw in another.

Sqaull20

papu wrote: »

http://www.dollarshops.eu/product_info.php/products_id/2778

399 dollars

€399

I was expecting Ati to give it to Nvidia, they really are hopeless at the moment...

papu

Sqaull20 wrote: »

€399

I was expecting Ati to give it to Nvidia, they really are hopeless at the moment...

for 250 euros (3850's in crossfire) you can get gtx or above performance in most games.. how is that hopeless?

Sqaull20

papu wrote: »

for 250 euros (3850's in crossfire) you can get gtx or above performance in most games.. how is that hopeless?

Maybe but where can you get 2 HD3850 for €250?

Can the HD3850's cant beat a 8800gtx in the games I play (tomb raider legend/crysis/dirt?

Doesnt really matter as I dont have a crossfire motherboard anyway...

Im saying Ati is hopeless because they cant touch nvidia in single cards at the moment, there flaghsip card is getting beat by a 9600gt ffs...

They could have fixed this somewhat by releasing the X2 for €300 or so, but €400 is a joke...

PogMoThoin

:rolleyes: nVidia fanboy

Its good value IMO, compare it to 320e for a 512mb gts, faster & twice the memory

papu

Sqaull20 wrote: »

Maybe but where can you get 2 HD3850 for €250?

1-http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-084-OK&groupid=701&catid=56&subcat=416
its actually 124 euros but forgive me , i round up.

Sqaull20 wrote: »

Can the HD3850's cant beat a 8800gtx in the games I play (tomb raider legend/crysis/dirt?

bah tomb raider
crysis ,
cant argue with that for 250 quid
+ dirt is a horribly optimized game and no one benches it.
but coj Coj
company of heroes
and stalker
all run fantastically

Sqaull20 wrote: »

Doesnt really matter as I dont have a crossfire motherboard anyway...

lots of people dont have cases that will fit a GTX , and allot of new mobos today support crossfire and even CrossfireX.

Sqaull20 wrote: »

Im saying Ati is hopeless because they cant touch nvidia in single cards at the moment, there flaghsip card is getting beat by a 9600gt ffs...

making radical statements like that is great and all , but next time you go sprouting *** please back it up..

TerrorFirmer

Sqaull20 wrote: »

Maybe but where can you get 2 HD3850 for €250?

Can the HD3850's cant beat a 8800gtx in the games I play (tomb raider legend/crysis/dirt?

Doesnt really matter as I dont have a crossfire motherboard anyway...

Im saying Ati is hopeless because they cant touch nvidia in single cards at the moment, there flaghsip card is getting beat by a 9600gt ffs...

They could have fixed this somewhat by releasing the X2 for €300 or so, but €400 is a joke...

Flagship card being beaten by 9600GT? The only reviews so far compare the 512mb 9600GT to a 256mb HD3850 - surely you don't mean the 256mb HD3850 is Ati's flagship card? Anyway, in most tests, the 9600GT is at best a few frames faster. So comparing it to the 190 euro HD3870 will no doubt result in a similar loss for the GT. I'm not particularly amazed by the 9600GT at the moment, unless its priced at 130-140 euro or below. Which it probably won't.

The X2 costs 399 dollars - not euro. $399 = 270 euro, while I'm sure, as always, it will be higher, it won't be anywhere near 400 euro.

PogMoThoin

HavoK wrote: »

The X2 costs 399 dollars - not euro. $399 = 270 euro, while I'm sure, as always, it will be higher, it won't be anywhere near 400 euro.

Wrong, it is 399e, thats from here, dutch store. There's a thread on XS bout it, here

Sqaull20

papu wrote: »

1-http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-084-OK&groupid=701&catid=56&subcat=416
its actually 124 euros but forgive me , i round up.


lots of people dont have cases that will fit a GTX , and allot of new mobos today support crossfire and even CrossfireX.



making radical statements like that is great and all , but next time you go sprouting *** please back it up..

lol

Postage is free is it?

Ati have a better single card than a gtx?

Those Crysis benches still cant touch a gtx....

Fact is Ati havent released a single card that compete with a Gtx and they have had 15 months to do it....

They have one now and they price it at €400....

I have nothing against Ati,but Nvidia has the beating of them everywhere besides crossfire but,Sli improving all the time and it wont be long before it catches up, then what?

Grim.

fanboi fight!!!!!

PogMoThoin

Yes 400e is a little bit steep for this gpu, 350e would have been a lovely price. Wont' stop me buying one tho.

In fact at the moment i detest nVidia, the 8800GTX, a year old but yet it hasn't gone down in price even with the 8800GT almost beating it at half the price. They also use a marketing stategy i hate, produce a keenly priced gpu but carefully limit the availability of it.

I feel its the mid range gpu's Ati need to concentrate on beating nVidia at. The 8800GTX is overpriced. They prooved that themselves with the 8800GT. This 3870x2 keeps Ati in touch, 8800GTX performance for an affordable price, crossfire on any mobo, no need for a 16x +16x mobo.

TerrorFirmer

Ok 400e is stupid, I didn't realize that and it makes the world of difference. That's nearly more then buying 2 separate 3870's? I got my second 3870 for 192 euro....

Sqaull20

Review

http://www.pczilla.net/post/89.html

Its ddr3 :mad:

Anyone know if this card will consume more power than a single 8800gtx?

PogMoThoin

Sqaull20 wrote: »

Review

http://www.pczilla.net/post/89.html

Its ddr3 :mad:

Anyone know if this card will consume more power than a single 8800gtx?

Reviews in chinese, cant read it.

All nVidia gpu's are ddr3 anyways