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D-Boys CASv metal upgrade

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  • 23-01-2008 7:40pm
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    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 8,679 Mod ✭✭✭✭


    Im upgrading the body of my D-Boys CASv to metal. Bought the body and all was going well till I realised that the front of the upper reciver is differant from the metal one. The barrel/hopup retaining husing is compleatly differant and my delta ring isnt threadded to screw on to the metal reciver.

    Anyone any idea what parts I need to get to resolve this?

    (pics to follow)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,261 ✭✭✭Puding


    what make is the body? can you link it


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 8,679 Mod ✭✭✭✭Rew




  • Registered Users Posts: 6,261 ✭✭✭Puding


    There no reason that should not work the only body/delta ring computability issues I've come across are with g&p as they use there own delta ring design and ics as they have there slit gear box design which means the gearbox does not fit into some body's.

    With the hop up unit will it not site in place ( too loss ) or will the gearbox size simple not allow you to get it into place?


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 8,679 Mod ✭✭✭✭Rew


    The ABS upper reciver is compleatly differant to the metal one. The piece that houses the hopup and the barrel (inner and outer) dosnt exist on the metal one. The delta ring I have isnt threaded and the metal body is threaded.

    There's lieteraly noting there to ttache the outer barrel to or to keep the hopup steady.

    Should be pretty clear from these pics. All I can think is that there is a differnat delta assembly or something. The ABS is cracked on the plastic body at one of the hinges so I def want to get rid of it.

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    img6876af3.th.jpgimg6877ux9.th.jpgimg6878iy1.th.jpg


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,341 ✭✭✭Fallschirmjager


    rew,

    are you looking for a screw delta assembly? i think i have an old dboys one at home if you want to check it out. i will send a piccy tonight. i will be in hrta on saturday, if you are there..

    just so i understand this

    you want the abs body on the aeg to be metal so you bought a new body
    you want to use the original front to attach to the metal body

    sorry for the text, i just want to make sure i got it right before i answer.

    the reason i ask is there is 2 (more if you include g&p) ways of attaching front to receivers on m4's. a lot of it is down to the body make, and by that i mean abs or metal. the screw type doesnt appear a lot with abs because you would strip the threads so they tend to use a locking mechanism and retaining screws. this sometimes means the hopup unit is different as well...thats from memory so if anyone knows better, feel free to correct me...


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 8,679 Mod ✭✭✭✭Rew


    Yeah you pretty much nailed it there. Id love to see pics of the delta you have to see if its what i need. At the moment I can assemble the whole thing except the hop-up, inner barrel and outer barrel.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,341 ✭✭✭Fallschirmjager


    i think you need a new hopup, i seem to recall people dremmelled the incorrect ones to fit...but i will post a pic of the d ring when i get home.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 8,679 Mod ✭✭✭✭Rew


    Hmmm, hopup fits in the body but there is nothing for it to sit against ATM. In the ABS body the inner barrel sldes though a hole in the front and the hop-up slides in to a couple of grooves and is held in place tight. The metal body has nothing to hold the external barrel, internal barrel or the hop-up. Looks to me like there should be a threaded delta and some sort of housing that sits in to that.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,261 ✭✭✭Puding


    looks like your going to need a new outer barrel and delta ring

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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 8,679 Mod ✭✭✭✭Rew


    Hmmm thats quite possible and incredibly annoying.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,341 ✭✭✭Fallschirmjager


    well i have exactly that d ring at home ...the outer barrel..sorry dude..cant help you there...i have nada on that...i did change an outer barrel but it was a huge silencer screwed to the base...not much use


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 8,679 Mod ✭✭✭✭Rew


    Whats supports your hopup and holds the barrel in place?


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,261 ✭✭✭Puding


    i would say he has somthing like this http://www.rsov.com/product_info.php?cPath=105_158_160&products_id=521 ?? where as you need something like this http://www.rsov.com/product_info.php?products_id=1117


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 8,679 Mod ✭✭✭✭Rew


    I need to see another rifle to figure this out...


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,261 ✭✭✭Puding


    88714260001ic7.jpg


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 8,679 Mod ✭✭✭✭Rew


    Now that maks sense :D

    So new delta ring and barrel it is!!

    Thanks a mil


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 11,001 ✭✭✭✭Masada


    jeez, this just put me off getting a metal body now.,lol


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 8,679 Mod ✭✭✭✭Rew


    Well iv ordered more parts now but in hind sight id never have started....


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    cant wait to see this finished ,then i can start mine but im just doing a A1 TO CASV fore end conversion


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 8,679 Mod ✭✭✭✭Rew


    Metal body makes a big difference to the stability of the CASv fore end. Its much more solid when attached to the metal rail. I think im going to have to find better screws or more likly bolts to attach the CASv to the top rail though, the fit isnt brilliant and the screws are threading a bit.


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 8,679 Mod ✭✭✭✭Rew


    Well this little project is now complete. New barrel and delta ring arived today and it all went together properly. I also changed the stock to a crane one and the front iron sight to a flip up one. Pics to follow!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 11,001 ✭✭✭✭Masada


    what did it cost ya in total rew? i was thinking of getting a metal body myself but was a bit put off with the problems you had what with meeding the new barell and everything.,


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 8,679 Mod ✭✭✭✭Rew


    vtec wrote: »
    what did it cost ya in total rew? i was thinking of getting a metal body myself but was a bit put off with the problems you had what with meeding the new barell and everything.,

    I havn't added it up but it would have been cheaper to buy the like sof a D-Boys CQB metal and salvage parts off it instead of buying new parts. Shipping is a real killer.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 11,001 ✭✭✭✭Masada


    lol., had a feeling it would be expencive.,shame ya need a new barell and everything huh., i wonder if theres a bady available that can take te original Dboys front end.,


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 23,359 Mod ✭✭✭✭feylya


    Rew wrote: »
    Well this little project is now complete. New barrel and delta ring arived today and it all went together properly. I also changed the stock to a crane one and the front iron sight to a flip up one. Pics to follow!

    Ah. That explains it... Can't wait to compare it to the CQB.


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    cant wait to see the pic's and more details


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 8,679 Mod ✭✭✭✭Rew


    img7107nj1.th.jpgimg7109qg5.th.jpgimg7110da9.th.jpg

    Have some more but imageshack wount play ball soll ill upload em later


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    thanks rew ,it looks pretty well, im going to do a dboys metal m4a1-casv conversion in the next couple of weeks ,might end up bugging you over yours


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 11,001 ✭✭✭✭Masada


    shame you had to get so much for it though huh, would be great if there was a direct fit one.,


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,341 ✭✭✭Fallschirmjager


    i think it looks excellent...way impressed


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