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100Mbps through sewer pipes

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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,481 ✭✭✭Fremen


    Slashdot covered something similar a while ago:
    http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/08/20/1336234

    The thread's pretty much just full of toilet jokes, but it's worth a read :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,131 ✭✭✭subway




  • Registered Users Posts: 6,115 ✭✭✭emaherx


    Skyuser wrote: »
    The sewers in Ireland are bearly big enough for what they are intended for without stuffing cables down them.

    subway wrote: »
    You bet me to it. :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 366 ✭✭meepins


    emaherx wrote: »
    The sewers in Ireland are bearly big enough for what they are intended for without stuffing cables down them.



    You bet me to it. :)

    Well let's get our priorities in order. Freakishly fast internet connections or a fully functioning drain system? Is there even a choice here people?! :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,115 ✭✭✭emaherx


    meepins wrote: »
    Well let's get our priorities in order. Freakishly fast internet connections or a fully functioning drain system? Is there even a choice here people?! :D

    Well I suppose it would be sh1t fast. :D


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  • Registered Users Posts: 14,148 ✭✭✭✭Lemming


    meepins wrote: »
    Well let's get our priorities in order. Freakishly fast internet connections or a fully functioning drain system? Is there even a choice here people?! :D

    Bringing new meaning to 'The internet is full of sh1t'


  • Subscribers Posts: 9,716 ✭✭✭CuLT


    Lemming wrote: »
    Bringing new meaning to 'The internet is full of sh1t'
    Now now Lemming, enough of the toilet humour, you're draining my patience.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,813 ✭✭✭BaconZombie


    Skyuser wrote: »

    Ireland has been using this type of thing for years but in the BackBone links, most of the old {over 6ft wide } sewer pipes and tunnels that run though town and under the Liffey in Dublin are packed to the brim with Fibre which is 90% Dark.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,660 ✭✭✭crawler


    Like good old BPL (Broadband over power lines) - this one has already been trashed to death several times in here and the offline forum...

    Move on - nothing to see here :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 98 ✭✭rav1410


    I wish!!! :mad:
    H2O, a company that specialises in deploying fibre broadband through sewers, plans to make either Bournemouth, Northampton or Dundee the first place in Britain with 100Mb/sec home broadband connections


    Full story here.

    http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/159045/sewer-firm-brings-100mbsec-broadband-to-britain.html


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  • Registered Users Posts: 32,417 ✭✭✭✭watty


    You can get 100Mbps from fibre providers today in Ireland. Cost you though!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 98 ✭✭rav1410


    watty wrote: »
    You can get 100Mbps from fibre providers today in Ireland. Cost you though!


    :eek:

    Really? From what company? And I assume its only for people living in Dublin1 area or something?

    @Username. My apologies for not using the search button, I just couldn't believe 100Mb was available already.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,918 ✭✭✭Steffano2002


    If you're impressed by 100MB connections you'll like the below! Should be Ireland by year 2135:
    Scientists Set Internet2 Speed Record
    By Susan Kuchinskas

    Scientists at the California Institute of Technology (Caltech) and the European Organization for Nuclear Research (CERN) set a new land-speed record for Internet2, a second-generation network serving universities and research institutes.

    The team, which included folks from AMD (Quote, Chart), Cisco (Quote, Chart), Microsoft Research, Newisys, and S2io, transferred 859 gigabytes of data in less than 17 minutes. It did so at a rate of 6.63 gigabits per second (define) between the CERN facility in Geneva, Switzerland, and Caltech in Pasadena, Calif., a distance of more than 15,766 kilometers, or approximately 9,800 miles.

    Scientists are racing to move gigantic amounts of data by 2007, when CERN's Large Hadron Collider (LHC) will switch on. This huge underground particle accelerator will produce some 15 petabytes (define) of data a year, which will be stored and analyzed on a global grid of computer centers.

    High-energy physicists are excited about the LHC because they hope it will allow them to find the Higgs boson, a theoretical particle that they believe creates mass.

    "Physicists are trying to fill in the blank spaces in our model of high energy physics," said Jim Gray a Microsoft Research engineer who helped set Wednesday's record.

    But this $10 billion collider will be of little use if scientists around the world can't access the data.

    Researchers aren't the only ones excited about blazing data speeds. This record speed of 6.63Gbps is equivalent to transferring a full-length DVD movie in four seconds. There are uses in astronomy, bioinformatics, global climate modeling and seismology, as well as commercial applications from entertainment to oil and gas exploration.

    Internet2 is fast -- Abilene, a U.S. cross-country backbone network, blasts data at 10Gbps. But transoceanic networking is another story. There are hardware and software issues to overcome, Gray said.

    For example, one limiting factor is that the fastest available interface for PCs is the PCIX64 Bus Isolation Extender, which can only handle 7.5Gbps.

    The land-speed test is part of an ongoing R&D program to create high-speed global networks as the foundation of next-generation, data-intensive grids with a goal of transferring data at 1Gbps.

    The performance also is the first record to break the 100-petabit meter per second mark. One petabit is 1,000,000,000,000,000 bits (define). That may seem like an almost inconceivably large number, but Gray said storing petabits of data is a fact of life for many large corporations. He said Microsoft has about 5 petabits of data, and he estimates Google and Yahoo store that much, as well.

    "If you have a million customers and they each have a gigabyte of storage, that's a petabit," he said.

    The technology used in setting this record included S2io's Xframe 10 GbE server adapter, Cisco 7600 Series Routers, Newisys 4300 servers using AMD Opteron processors, Itanium servers and the 64-bit version of Windows Server 2003.

    And that was back in 2004!


  • Registered Users Posts: 505 ✭✭✭briantwin


    Yeah contact eircom. they'll run you a fibre line to your gaff. But by gaff i mean your mansion because if you cant afford a mansion you definitely cant afford 100mb line.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,481 ✭✭✭Fremen


    I wonder what kind of latency a connection like that would have.
    Technically, you could get higher bandwidth by driving a lorry-load of DVDs around. Your ping wouldn't be the best, though.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,487 ✭✭✭Mountjoy Mugger


    Ping time on a 100mbs connection is less than 1ms.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,918 ✭✭✭Steffano2002


    Fremen wrote: »
    I wonder what kind of latency a connection like that would have.
    Technically, you could get higher bandwidth by driving a lorry-load of DVDs around. Your ping wouldn't be the best, though.
    I'd assume the line would be interleaved to death to make it stable translating into very high (but steady!) pings...


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,918 ✭✭✭Steffano2002


    Ping time on a 100mbs connection is less than 1ms.
    That's bull. If you're pinging a server in Australia for example the packet still needs to travel all the way to the server and then come all the way back. It can't do that in 1ms. Even if you have a 1Gbs connection.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,078 ✭✭✭bigpaddy2004


    That's bull. If you're pinging a server in Australia for example the packet still needs to travel all the way to the server and then come all the way back. It can't do that in 1ms. Even if you have a 1Gbs connection.

    I was recently in my CO CO office where they have 2 155Mb feeds.
    Pinging www.rte.ie was 3-4ms, boards was the same. www.jolt.co.uk was up arond 10ms.


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  • Subscribers Posts: 6,408 ✭✭✭conzy


    I was recently in my CO CO office where they have 2 155Mb feeds.
    Pinging www.rte.ie was 3-4ms, boards was the same. www.jolt.co.uk was up arond 10ms.

    Thats just because its a good low latency connection, A 1mb connection with the same routing would have the same ping


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,078 ✭✭✭bigpaddy2004


    conzymaher wrote: »
    Thats just because its a good low latency connection, A 1mb connection with the same routing would have the same ping


    I was only relaying to Freman's question. He was wondering what the latency on a 100Mb line was. So I was just giving an example of a 155Mb line.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,918 ✭✭✭Steffano2002


    conzymaher wrote: »
    [...]A 1mb connection with the same routing would have the same ping
    QFT!


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,931 ✭✭✭dingding


    emaherx wrote: »
    Well I suppose it would be sh1t fast. :D

    Or Just Sh1te :D


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