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Minister Brennan Announces Details of Irish Sports Council Budget for 2008

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    DeVore
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    Shooting's slice of the pie:

    NGB|2008 CORE|2008 WOMEN IN SPORT
    Shooting Sports Association of Ireland| 35,450| 0
    Total | 11,915,014| 1,576,593


    (This then gets divided between the NTSA, NASRPC, NSAI, NRAI and the Pony Club Tetrathlon association. No mention of the ICPSA, but the process is not yet complete - the Olympic Council funding is not finalised yet either.

    DeV.


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    chem
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    DeVore wrote: »
    Shooting's slice of the pie:

    NGB|2008 CORE|2008 WOMEN IN SPORT
    Shooting Sports Association of Ireland| 35,450| 0
    Total | 11,915,014| 1,576,593



    DeV.

    OMG thats buttons! and then to be devided five ways :confused:
    Cricket has recieved more funding (no harm to cricket) but how many internationals have they won and how many take part?


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    IRLConor
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    chem wrote: »
    Cricket has recieved more funding (no harm to cricket) but how many internationals have they won and how many take part?

    They got into the Super 8 stage in the world cup last year. They've pushed hard to improve the level at which they play and they're getting rewarded for it.


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    Sparks
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    chem wrote: »
    OMG thats buttons!
    Welcome to the wonderful landscape of shooting administration :D
    and then to be devided five ways :confused:
    Well, the Pony Club is also in the Equestrian umbrella body, so they tend to get their funding from there instead, so it's really closer to four ways. And the four bodies put forward their proposed budgets, they're combined, sent to the ISC, sent back with bits approved and bits denied, and then redistributed again.
    But this is core funding. It's meant to keep the NGBs running, to pay for small projects, that sort of thing. There's seperate (challange) funding for larger projects and the Capital Grant scheme for, well, capital projects.
    However, yes, it's a pittance. In fact, on an even split, shooting NGBs like the NTSA get around between 6,000 and 8,000 euro (some of the funding goes to a general pool for development work) per year - which is just above a third of what the Baton Twirlers' association gets.
    (The NTSA is the least well funded olympic NGB in the country).

    However, the thing to remember here, is that the ISC does not fund sports these days, it invests in them. When the olympic shotgun team won the World Championships, the ICPSA got somewhere around a quarter of a million in funding as a result. It's a daft way to run stuff (in effect, funding is run as a reward system instead of a support system). And the carding grants (the grants for the athletes themselves) work the same way.


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    chem
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    IRLConor wrote: »
    They got into the Super 8 stage in the world cup last year. They've pushed hard to improve the level at which they play and they're getting rewarded for it.

    Im not dising them, but where is our reward? David malone`s gold medels spring to mind.


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    chem
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    Sparks wrote: »

    However, the thing to remember here, is that the ISC does not fund sports these days, it invests in them. When the olympic shotgun team won the World Championships, the ICPSA got somewhere around a quarter of a million in funding as a result. It's a daft way to run stuff (in effect, funding is run as a reward system instead of a support system). And the carding grants (the grants for the athletes themselves) work the same way.

    Cheers sparks. Just with so much put into the tax system by shooting sports it seems like they are tossing us a penny. Its a shame the funding is not put in at the start, not when someone shows results after funding themselfs for years :rolleyes:


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    Sparks
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    Been saying that for a while chem. It's more infuriating because the carding system is run the same way even though it's explictly stated to be a support mechanism :(
    I mean, if you look at the carding grant criteria at the moment, you have to win a medal in the Olympics or World Championships to get the top level of funding. (Happily, if you do win that medal, you also get the bonus payment automatically :rolleyes:)

    Less sarcasticly, reviewing those criteria is on the agenda because right now not only are they patently ridiculous, but they also don't take into account the facts of our sport - namely that it's not just all olympic shooting (right now only olympic shooting is cardable) and also that we start later than most sports (junior carding grants are sensible enough in terms of criteria, but you can't get them after you turn 21).


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