Downgrade a sniper rifle?

horgan_p

serious question, i suspect my sniper rifle is shooting way over 1j. its shattering 0.2g bbs off a wall a good 30 meters away and my own ( amateur) attempts to gauge its FPS ( i have a hi capa which i know is under 1 joule) tell me its well over 328 FPS.
how do i go about downgrading it so i can use it in skirmishs ?


it was bought in a b&m shop which i wont mention here.

kinkstr

If its a springer then you can just put in a new spring. Hope your ready for the enslaught of where didi you get it and then the slagging of mentioned shop, and then possibly some kind of discussion about regulating the sale of airsofts:)

Would also help if you told us the make and model too.

horgan_p

its called a "warrior mb-01". where do i get a spring from i dont see any on the irish sites ? i saw some on an asian site alright but i dont know if they are upgrade springs.

kinkstr

Good few springs on www.ehobbyasia.com, they have the power listed on each, not sure which one goes in the l96 though.

Masada

you can cut the spring and that will make a huge dfference., take about an inch off of it and if it was 500 it can come to around 300 from that, its best to do it small bits at a time incase you take off too much.,
This would be a good time to tell ya that the charter forbids conversation of over the limit airsoft guns so the thread might get locked but at least your going the right way about correcting things., Spring chop all the way.,

horgan_p

vtec wrote: »

This would be a good time to tell ya that the charter forbids conversation of over the limit airsoft guns so the thread might get locked but at least your going the right way about correcting things., Spring chop all the way.,

which is why i wont name the shop.just trying to be responsible

SLIM19198

Wouldnt the charter rule be ok with someone asking to downgrade their power output, as it is keeping it within the rules and regulations of airsoft in Ireland?

horgan_p

i would just like to be able to skirmish with it and not hurt someone.

Masada

SLIM19198 wrote: »

Wouldnt the charter rule be ok with someone asking to downgrade their power output, as it is keeping it within the rules and regulations of airsoft in Ireland?

you'd have to read it man, i know not everyone does including myself at first but in a sport such as airsoft where theres fine lines with the rules here its best to have a flick through it. Its not allowed to talk about them at all but i think (again my opinion) it should be ok seeing as your intentions are to be responsible and legal.,
OP, ive done the cut spring thing and got 327fps, I know someone else that did it just yesterday and got 300fps. its pretty easy to do and worst case scenario you'll ruin a spring that you would have thrown away anyway.,

horgan_p

o.k. lads i think the question is answered now , thanks for the advice.

best leave this thread alone now , just in case it does veer off into marshy ground.

moggins7

vtec wrote: »

you can cut the spring and that will make a huge dfference., take about an inch off of it and if it was 500 it can come to around 300 from that, its best to do it small bits at a time incase you take off too much.,
This would be a good time to tell ya that the charter forbids conversation of over the limit airsoft guns so the thread might get locked but at least your going the right way about correcting things., Spring chop all the way.,

but cutting springs can be really bad for the spring if memory serves me right!!

ED E

moggins7 wrote: »

but cutting springs can be really bad for the spring if memory serves me right!!

Why?

Arcto

moggins7 wrote: »

but cutting springs can be really bad for the spring if memory serves me right!!

*Straps self in and grabs popcorn*

This aught to be a good one....

ED E

Arcto wrote: »

*Straps self in and grabs popcorn*

This aught to be a good one....

Masada

moggins7 wrote: »

but cutting springs can be really bad for the spring if memory serves me right!!

yes care to elaborate on that a little,.lol

Cheeky monkey

The warrior 1 is a pretty easy downgrade you take out the trigger mechanism and then the cylinder will come out easy enough and then you go up to the air nozzle and un screw it and the spring will pop out cut the spring down to the top of cylinder and it should work fine but thats just assuming its pretty must the same as the aps-2 or series 2 warrior

If you wanna drop into hrta sometime I'll see if I can do it for you

NakedDex

I can in slightly older springs due to compression formation but in newer springs it's not so bad as long as you finish the spring correctly. Ideally you'd have a two wind flat section with a tapered tip but unless you have a machine to do that with, you're not going to get it.

A cut spring will work fine but won't have the same lifespan as a machine finished spring and you may find it will become weaker faster.

o1s1n

If someone genuinely wants to downgrade a rifle we allow discussion of it on the forum. Although it would be more fit for the troubleshooting forum. So I'll move it there.

Just be sensible about what you say.

horgan_p

thank you o1s1n and everyone else , i'll order a spring from ehobby

weeder

might as well cut it first since youll be getting rid anyway

Masada

weeder wrote: »

might as well cut it first since youll be getting rid anyway

exactly, its a lot easier than you'd think.,

Cheeky monkey

vtec wrote: »

exactly, its a lot easier than you'd think.,

Those well sniper rifles are ALOT easier then the aps-2 you don't have to fiddle with the springs on the trigger they are a right pain in the arse

Cheeky monkey

vtec wrote: »

exactly, its a lot easier than you'd think.,

It takes like 5 minutes to trip the thing down may aswell since chances are you wont be using the spring again

moggins7

Lethal_Bullet wrote: »

Why?

it ruins the spring an it wont last as long as you are weakening the spring.. well thats always what i thought...

Masada

moggins7 wrote: »

it ruins the spring an it wont last as long as you are weakening the spring.. well thats always what i thought...

It "might" ruin a spring that you will otherwise throw away. and thats only if you get it wrong, you'd have to be pretty thick to get it wrong.

Alvin T. Grey

Someone mention my name?:D

Masada

lol again., thats twice after your posts.,

liamo333

An ordinary AEG spring wont fit it you need a sniper spring, I'll see if i can find out what spring you need.

ED E

liamo333 wrote: »

An ordinary AEG spring wont fit it you need a sniper spring, I'll see if i can find out what spring you need.

I made that mistake:p

liamo333

This is what you need- http://www.redwolfairsoft.com/redwolf/airsoft/ProductDetail?prodID=17511

Cheeky monkey

I tried sticking an aps-2 spring in my well l96 and it didnt fit thats why I cut the spring so I dont think it will work tbh