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Opera Centre

  • 30-01-2008 9:12am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 574 ✭✭✭


    Does anyone have any idea what is happening with the proposed Opera Centre? There doesn't seem to be any movement on the project.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,902 ✭✭✭Poxyshamrock


    Construction is said to begin in July 06!

    :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,180 ✭✭✭1huge1


    None in the slightest, to much opposition from people about victorian/georgian buildings (not sure which) being knocked etc.
    Had to change a lot of plans.

    Im more looking forward to the parkway valley to be honest though it will be a real traffic gridlock once it opens.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,871 ✭✭✭Karmafaerie


    They had to revise the plans (yet again!!!), and buy more buildings.
    It's about to go through it's final checks before proper construction starts, but they have done some of the preperation work.
    The're saying now thattheir'll be full scale construction by Spring.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,048 ✭✭✭Amazotheamazing


    Some of the preparation work has been done, as KF says. Think they've cleared up the yards in the centre and blocked of the site.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,180 ✭✭✭1huge1


    Im guessing even if this starts in spring (tomorrow + my 18th birthday) we still wont be seeing comp;etion till at least 2010


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,902 ✭✭✭Poxyshamrock


    Does anyone know what the story is with "The Opera Centre"?

    One minute it looks doubtful then apparently work is imminent and then it all dies down again?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,560 ✭✭✭✭Kess73


    Well all the "To Let" and "For Sale" signs on the buildings touted to be knocked in the building have been all changed to "Sold" signs in the last week. So that might suggest there is some movement, although at the pace that the city planners etc move, it could be another decade before fingers get pulled out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,902 ✭✭✭Poxyshamrock


    Sorry to bump this thread but there's a class new website just launched with plans of the shopping centre including the proposed floor plans.

    www.operacentre.ie


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,960 ✭✭✭DarkJager


    Wow, that looks pretty impressive! A roof garden as well? Could be nice in the summer months.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,066 ✭✭✭talkingclock


    DarkJager wrote: »
    A roof garden as well? Could be nice in the summer months.

    On completion global warming will cause a 365 day summer...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,591 ✭✭✭✭Aidric


    Hope it gets going as soon as possible, Patrick St is a kip at the moment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,015 ✭✭✭✭Mc Love


    Looks very good, nice find OP


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,871 ✭✭✭Karmafaerie


    Nice find.

    One small gripe though.
    How old is that aerial photo?!

    The old Savoy building is still there!!!:confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,608 ✭✭✭✭sceptre


    Sorry to bump this thread but there's a class new website just launched with plans of the shopping centre including the proposed floor plans.

    www.operacentre.ie
    Is the class new website down? All I see is a big "website undergoing redesign" notice and a link to two brochures that have been doing the rounds for a while (see attached).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,312 ✭✭✭Limerick Dude


    This better get the go ahead. The future of the city depends on it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,871 ✭✭✭Karmafaerie


    Planning approval is due in /march (this time!!!).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,361 ✭✭✭Itsdacraic


    I really hope it goes ahead.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,066 ✭✭✭talkingclock


    Is there anyone out there who seriously believes that this will be open in near future??? I give "near future" a generously five to six years!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,020 ✭✭✭Ardscoil Ris


    Is there anyone out there who seriously believes that this will be open in near future??? I give "near future" a generously five to six years!

    Tenner bet it goes over budget and becomes a massive eye sore.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,361 ✭✭✭Itsdacraic


    Tenner bet it goes over budget and becomes a massive eye sore.

    A bigger eye sore than the area is at the minute?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,020 ✭✭✭Ardscoil Ris


    Should fit right in so. The council can't lose.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,312 ✭✭✭Limerick Dude


    I thought the planning permission date was in Febuary?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,189 ✭✭✭Paddico


    Just resurrecting an old thread

    Considering the size of the project, is there any dedicated thread to this?



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,635 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster


    Just this one it seems. Most talk about it is in the Limerick Improvements thread.

    SISK are currently digging out the basement for the entire site and will then construct the 5 storey office block on the corner of Ellen St and Michael St.

    Tenders are out for the construction of the new library and attached office block and for the 14 storey tower and Granary refurbishment.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,333 ✭✭✭davo2001


    Lads, it's only been 15 years, you can't expect them to rush it!



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,635 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster


    15 years since what? That was a completely different project. The council only acquired the site out of NAMA in late 2011 during the recession. Yes they were slow in coming up with a design and getting it to ABP, but planning was only granted in Feb 2020. You may remember what else happened around then. It shut down the construction industry for months on two separate occasions.

    They've demolished a lot of buildings and made others safe and cleared the site of debris and hazardous materials. They are now piling and digging out the basement.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,333 ✭✭✭davo2001


    Ok, sorry so, it's only been 12 years since the council acquired it.

    They're making great progress 🤨



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,635 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster


    Now that it's underway, they are actually making great progress.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 112 ✭✭Jose Maria


    is Quinns pub part of the plans in any shape or form?



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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,635 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster


    Yes. All of the buildings on that side of Ellen St between Patrick St and Michael St are part of the project.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,299 ✭✭✭McSween


    Dare I ask if Marks and Spencer will be coming 😀?



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,635 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster


    Nah, they're going across the road into the redeveloped Arthurs Quay!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 914 ✭✭✭Glenomra


    All the plans/models are up on the limerick 2030 site. Very impressive.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 112 ✭✭Jose Maria


    Ya thanks I've seen the plans, just didn't see anything about Quinns reopening as a pub



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 914 ✭✭✭Glenomra


    I was at an open evening and I was told by one of the officials that the plans are to develop Quinns as a pub/restaurant space. Presumably dependent on expressions of interest in same. Hopefully!!!!



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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,635 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster


    A tower crane was erected on site today, so the construction of the office block on Michael St and Ellen St is about to start.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 914 ✭✭✭Glenomra


    I thought that construction wasn't due to commence until 2024, that this year and much of next year was to be given over to underground work etc. I didn't hear that any contracts had been signed for the office block development. Very much hope that you are correct, as you normally are with news on construction projects.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,635 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster


    Sisk won the contract to build the basement for the whole site and first office block. The other office blocks and the library are currently out to tender.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 914 ✭✭✭Glenomra


    Thanks. Great news. People need to see actual construction work on this site. It might convince many of the doubters that the development will actually be built and would change some of the negative commentary about the future of Limerick City Centre.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,920 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian




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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,635 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster


    It's literally under construction. 🙄



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,920 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    Parkway Valley/Horizon Mall was literally under construction in recent history as well



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,635 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster


    A private developer was building Parkway Valley when the crash happened 15 years ago. They went bust. The Horizon Mall idea never even went to construction as the developer was a shyster.

    A private developer is not building Opera Square. It is being built by Limerick 2030, a public body under control of the council, and it has been fully funded. It is under construction and will be built.

    The two are not in anyway comparable.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,635 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster


    The first concrete pour happened yesterday. Hopefully we'll see the office block rise above the hoarding early in 2024.




  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,635 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster


    @Glenomra replying to your post from the Limerick Improvement Projects thread.

    I am not a construction expert but I've been told that there were 2 significant concrete pours at the Opera site, 400 square metres and over 700 square metres. Presumably that means that foundation work is progressing well and that relatively soon we might some construction work on one of principal buildings. That would a red letter day imo.

    Plenty going on behind the scenes.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 914 ✭✭✭Glenomra


    repetitive I know but that's transformative and might convince a few of the naysayers that progress is being made.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,189 ✭✭✭Paddico


    Great to see plenty going on there



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,635 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster


    From FB.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 914 ✭✭✭Glenomra


    Thanks. Magnificent photo. A transformative development, I hope!!!!. incidentally when can we expect construction on the old Workspace site begin to rise over the level of the hoardings. Also, is there any contract signed for any other development on the site, other than the Workspace site.... if you know same.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,060 ✭✭✭Vanquished


    There's significant risk with 'One Opera Square' Six floors of office space with capacity for 1,000 workers at a time when demand for office accommodation is plummeting and most companies are operating a hybrid model. We can only hope they'll do a better job of marketing it to potential suitors than they did with the 750 desk capacity 'Gardens International' which still has two entirely empty floors and barely 200 of a headcount working in there.

    It'll take a new FDI tenant to bring any significant level of occupancy to One Opera Square you'd imagine. It'll be interesting to see what Savills and Cushman & Wakefield can attract to 1BQ which should be finished by the middle of next year. That'll be a litmus test for the Limerick commercial market.



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