not 1 call from carzone 550+ but views in a week

Oilrig · 30-01-2008 11:05pm

SMMT sign on the wall too, looks like the pics were not taken around here...

Plot thickens!

JHMEG · 30-01-2008 11:50pm

roughan wrote: »

they are close to 100k new
also thats the market value

here is a 27 year old Porsche for 28 k
http://www.carzone.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=711702

They start at just under 73k new.

That 27 year old Porsche isn't a Boxter.

The car is only worth what someone will pay, therefore it's not worth 27k (so far). I think you'll drop your price.

tossy · 30-01-2008 11:53pm

seasam wrote: »

But it says on the ad 1 Owner !!

Yes i did spot that,he might have bought it new in the uk-who knows.im not implying anything im just pointing out some reason as to why he's getting no calls.

Another thing why obscure the car reg? first thing i do if im looking for a car is get the reg and run a check on it!!!

I know you wil lsay its security related and you dont want anyone finding out where you live,but if someone is hell bent on robbing your car they will find out anyway!

roughan · 30-01-2008 11:58pm

seasam wrote: »

Your car is 10 years old and it's a 2.5 a new 2.7 is not nearly 100k new as far as I know you can only NCT a car 3 months in advance so how come it says April 10 in one part of the ad and May 10 in another ? Nice work Tails142 It just dosen't sound like he's telling the whole truth Spending that money I think somebody would want a warranty also

you can nct your car 3 months early

a new 2.7 is 73 k before you put on any extras
check with www.porsche.ie

roughan · 31-01-2008 12:04am

check on carzone
all the 98' boxsters are going at 25-26k

Anan1 · 31-01-2008 12:24am

OP - Did you buy the car new, or used?

easyontheeye · 31-01-2008 12:28am

roughan wrote: »

check on carzone
all the 98' boxsters are going at 25-26k

i think people are gonna be more aware of the cost of running these cars now when the new tax regime comes out and also the price of petrol. anyone that doesn't care about the cost of tax or petrol can probably afford a new boxster anyway

--amadeus-- · 31-01-2008 12:40am

roughan wrote: »

check on carzone
all the 98' boxsters are going at 25-26k

I think what you mean is all the 98 Boxters are advertised at 25 - 26k. And I really don't see how you can compare a 911 Turbo with a boxter!

Reasons I wouldn't buy from this ad are much the same as the others - the photos look dodgy and it reads (and photos look) like a trade ad. It looks like a UK import so people will query it's history (esp with all this talk of UK write offs). It has an obscured reg so people will question VRT payments on it. IThe fact it's photo'd in the UK makes ppl wonder if teh car is in the country and if so how old are teh fotos (and by extension what is teh current condition).

In addition there are a number of other boxters advertised - one (uncleared VRT) at 10k less. The cars at the same price as yours are all from dealers, implying warrenty, proven history and a level of come back (always nice when stumping up 25K!).

Finally the tan leather interior is very much a personal thing and I personally find the colour combos of the other cars more appealing.

It's a specialist car at a poor time of the year. Get some decent, local and recent photos, re-write the ad so you sound less like a trader and clear up the date mismatches. Then it's make your mind up time. Do you tough it out and wait for a buyer at your price? You can - I waited three or four months to sell my last call and for a specialist car the right buyer is bound to be out there, even though you may be hanging on till July. Or you could bite the bullet and undercut the dealers by 3 - 4K and accept that a more realistic value on teh car - for a quick sale - may be closer to 22k.

Mylow · 31-01-2008 12:41am

roughan wrote: »

check on carzone
all the 98' boxsters are going at 25-26k

Open market selling price below.

MAKE: PORSCHE
MODEL: BOXSTER
VERSION: 2.5 02DR / CONVERTIBLE / MANUAL / PETROL ONLY /
MILEAGE: 62500 MILES

The information requested in respect of the vehicle shown is indicated below.
DATE OF FIRST REGISTRATION(MM/YY): APRIL 1998
OPEN MARKET SELLING PRICE: (applicable on enquiry date) €12536

VRT on a similar UK import would be €3760

Here is similar one in UK for £8250 or a 2000 model for £10795
I think you really need to be realistic about price.

roughan · 31-01-2008 12:55am

Mylow wrote: »

Open market selling price below.

MAKE: PORSCHE
MODEL: BOXSTER
VERSION: 2.5 02DR / CONVERTIBLE / MANUAL / PETROL ONLY /
MILEAGE: 62500 MILES

The information requested in respect of the vehicle shown is indicated below.
DATE OF FIRST REGISTRATION(MM/YY): APRIL 1998
OPEN MARKET SELLING PRICE: (applicable on enquiry date) €12536

VRT on a similar UK import would be €3760

Here is similar one in UK for £8250 or a 2000 model for £10795
I think you really need to be realistic about price.

do u think i should put it in for 12.5 k ?????????????/

JHMEG · 31-01-2008 12:55am

Mylow wrote: »

VRT on a similar UK import would be €3760

That '98 one works out at a tad over €11k. All in could be landed incl VRT for €15k.

Roughan, as amadeus pointed out asking price does not mean selling price.

You said '98 boxters are going for 25-26k. I'd say they're going nowhere at that price, especially as they can be imported for €10k less.

Anan1 · 31-01-2008 1:04am

roughan wrote: »

do u think i should put it in for 12.5 k ?????????????/

Did you buy the car new?

--amadeus-- · 31-01-2008 1:11am

First rules of pricing, understand the market and understand the competition.

Dealers can ask for more money because they'll service and valet the car, do remedial repairs and stand over the car for whatever amount of time. For that they charge a premium, which people are happy to pay. You are basing your price on them, when in fact they are not your true competition as you are not really offering the same product (service & warranty).

Your real competition is from the private seller in Meath who's undercutting you by almost 7k, or the cars that Mylow is showing that can be brought in from the UK for 8 - 12k less than your asking price.

So if you really want to sell in a short time frame drop your asking price. Or sit it out and be willing to wait 3 - 6 months (or more) for it to go. I know of one 911 in Mayo that sat unsold for over a year because the owner had it overvalued whereas mine (priced to slightly undercut other private sellers) was gone with cash in my hand inside 10 days.

Final point - you say in the ad: "owner buying another Boxster". That does kind of beg the question "well, what's wrong with this one, why is he selling it...?"!

promethius · 31-01-2008 1:13am

This thread is a crack up, no such thing as a free ad/lunch!

Slidey · 31-01-2008 1:14am

the thing you have to worry about with a car like that is if there is enough hairdressers or slight effeminet (spellin i know) lawyers out there who need an over priced convertible... hope you plan on replacing it with a real car...

Wishbone Ash · 31-01-2008 1:16am

--amadeus-- wrote: »

I know of one 911 in Mayo that sat unsold for over a year because the owner had it overvalued

Was it on MO plates?

roughan · 31-01-2008 1:17am

--amadeus-- wrote: »

First rules of pricing, understand the market and understand the competition.

Dealers can ask for more money because they'll service and valet the car, do remedial repairs and stand over the car for whatever amount of time. For that they charge a premium, which people are happy to pay. You are basing your price on them, when in fact they are not your true competition as you are not really offering the same product (service & warranty).

Your real competition is from the private seller in Meath who's undercutting you by almost 7k, or the cars that Mylow is showing that can be brought in from the UK for 8 - 12k less than your asking price.

So if you really want to sell in a short time frame drop your asking price. Or sit it out and be willing to wait 3 - 6 months (or more) for it to go. I know of one 911 in Mayo that sat unsold for over a year because the owner had it overvalued whereas mine (priced to slightly undercut other private sellers) was gone with cash in my hand inside 10 days.

Final point - you say in the ad: "owner buying another Boxster". That does kind of beg the question "well, what's wrong with this one, why is he selling it...?"!

i want to get the 987 ( the new 2005 model)
ie i liked this car so much

--amadeus-- · 31-01-2008 1:20am

Wishbone Ash wrote: »

Was it on MO plates?

I can't remember off the top of my head but I think it was on ZV plates; a early 70's 2.7 which he was looking for about 16k for, even though it needed welding to the (IIRC) rear suspension. I put mine up for 15, sold it for 13 and cleared a profit on teh price I bought it for, so happy days!

Roughan - the fact that you are buying a newer one isn't clear in the ad, again I'm just saying it as I read it.

roughan · 31-01-2008 1:20am

slideways wrote: »

the thing you have to worry about with a car like that is if there is enough hairdressers or slight effeminet (spellin i know) lawyers out there who need an over priced convertible... hope you plan on replacing it with a real car...

Please dont tell me your idea of a real car is an Subaru or a 316i with m badges

mik_da_man · 31-01-2008 1:24am

Well in fairness a lot of people will not consider a boxter as a "real" Porsche !

quarryman · 31-01-2008 1:28am

Anan1 wrote: »

Did you buy the car new?

this has been asked twice now and no answer. it says one owner, is this true?

roughan · 31-01-2008 1:30am

quarryman wrote: »

this has been asked twice now and no answer. it says one owner, is this true?

its been in the family since new with every service stamp by Porsche Dublin

Slidey · 31-01-2008 1:30am

No i have a golf gt tdi, badges removed, had an m3, licence couldnt take it. would rather own a 20 year old 911 than a wanna be porsche like the boxter

Wishbone Ash · 31-01-2008 1:30am

mik_da_man wrote: »

Well in fairness a lot of people will not consider a boxter as a "real" Porsche !

....a sort of Porsche Lite!

roughan · 31-01-2008 1:32am

mik_da_man wrote: »

Well in fairness a lot of people will not consider a boxter as a "real" Porsche !

if this is the poor mans 911 thing here is my answer]

This claim that Boxster owners cannot afford a 911 is nonsense. There are plenty of secondhand 911's which are cheaper than my Boxster . I could have gotten a secondhand Carrera for the same price I paid for my 986. Not to mention 993's, 964's, and 930's which are well and truly affordable. Why doesn't a 318i driver have to justify himself in the same way? "You only buy a 318i because you can't afford an M3" is an equally nonsensical statement
If you put many options on a 987S, you are pretty closed to the base price of a 997. I for one wanted a Boxster not a 911. Not to say that I don�t love the 911, because I do, and I will own one�.there is a good chance that it will be my next fun car. The thing is (at least for me) that you can always get away with having a 911, it is on many levels practical, if you have young children you can transport them in the 911 that is not what I wanted this time. There are not very many times in your life when you can get away with having a two seat roadster that is nothing but fun, you either do it before you have too much responsibility (and can really enjoy it) or when you are over 50 and the kids are out of the house blah blah blah.

roughan · 31-01-2008 1:33am

Wishbone Ash wrote: »

....a sort of Porsche Lite!

I cant believe its not a Porsche

Slidey · 31-01-2008 1:34am

utterly porschely....

roughan · 31-01-2008 1:36am

slideways wrote: »

No i have a golf gt tdi, badges removed, had an m3, licence couldnt take it. would rather own a 20 year old 911 than a wanna be porsche like the boxter

A golf tdi ...nuf said
i totally agree that is a far superior car
any chance of a swap

do u still have the badges ?

Slidey · 31-01-2008 1:38am

Na you cant put green in a porsche... and its a gt tdi

mik_da_man · 31-01-2008 1:39am

Wishbone Ash wrote: »

....a sort of Porsche Lite!

Exactly

Not knocking ur car OP but if I were to buy a porsche a boxter would not be it....

But getting back to the issue, you have said a few things about it on the net which ur not being totally honest about, the pics look like a dealers pics - and prob are not recent pics.

My advice if u want to sell it is to drop the price by about 1.5K put up some of ur own pics and be honest about what was done/ needs to be done.

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