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[Eircom & Resellers..BT, UTV etc] ADSL Speed upgrade to 8MB discussion...ongoing
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Direct Link to your router stats page:
http://192.168.1.254/indexExptStatRES.htm?adslRES.htm
Hope that helps.
Ah great thanks. So my stats are:
Max Allowed Speed (kbps) 2048 256
SN Margin (dB) 22.50 21.00
Line Attenuation (dB) 27.50 11.00
CRC Errors 0 1
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I'd always recommend a Linksys. Steer clear of Netgear.Deleted User wrote: »Yes I was waiting for the speed increases and was hoping to hop onto u.tv at 7.6mb for around ~€30 a month. What router should I buy if the 2247 is rubbish?
Here's one I'd suggest:
http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.aspx?sku=323162
If you'd rather, you could just get a free Wireless Router from UTV when you sign up. Not opting for the Router gives you one month free on their service, but taking it won't cost you extra. They usually provide the same as what BT provide in both Ireland and the UK. There's a 1-Port BT Voyager, model 210. However, I'd say you'll be able to get the BT Voyager 2110 Wireless 4-port Router from them.
EDIT: First post on the 100th page!
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I'd always recommend a Linksys. Steer clear of Netgear.
Here's one I'd suggest:
http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.aspx?sku=323162
If you'd rather, you could just get a free Wireless Router from UTV when you sign up. Not opting for the Router gives you one month free on their service, but taking it won't cost you extra. They usually provide the same as what BT provide in both Ireland and the UK. There's a 1-Port BT Voyager, model 210. However, I'd say you'll be able to get the BT Voyager 2110 Wireless 4-port Router from them.
EDIT: First post on the 100th page!
I have the generic Netopia 2247 router, should I change that to be able to expect the 7.6MB promised?
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Hope you physically went next door and had a lookStickyMcGinty wrote: »just looking at a neighbours network there, they live right next door to me so in theory the stats should be similar. kinda shows the difference between the two routers, we both have the routers hooked up to the master socket[B]Netopia 3347NWG[/B] (my line, older all black eircom router) Downstream Upstream Max Allowed Speed (kbps) 3072 384 [B]SN Margin (dB) 31.00 10.00[/B] Line Attenuation (dB) 24.00 12.00[B]Netopia 2247[/B] (silver model) Downstream Upstream Max Allowed Speed (kbps) 2048 256 [B]SN Margin (dB) 18.50 14.00[/B] Line Attenuation (dB) 20.50 11.00 CRC Errors 2195 18if i plug my router into his line, i get stats close enough to the ones i get at home. My SNR margin is actually better than his and i've a meg faster.
Just an example on how your router can mess up your SNR.
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That is excellent attenuation BUT your SN is absolutely terrible- when it goes to 7.6mbps you will almost certainly get disconnects unless you do something to improve it. If you have the silver eircom netopia 2247 then definitely get a new router or try the steps that SpongeBob mentions in his post from a couple of days ago;What about me ?
My line is being upgraded over the weekend 26 july
Stats:
Downstream Upstream
Max Allowed Speed (kbps) 3072 384
SN Margin (dB) 9.00 6.50
Line Attenuation (dB) 19.00 10.00
CRC Errors 281 0Sponge Bob wrote: »They are adding new exchanges slowly in the big cities mainly . They do not enable them as standard for ADSL either .
READ THIS EXPLANATION OF WHAT STATS TELL YOU !! especially if on a 3mbit line .
Anyone with margin of 25db+ and stable 3mbit should get the 7.6 upgrade or near enough.
You lose about 4db-5db per megabit of upgrade
25db margin now should be 5db at worst after the upgrade , tight that .
8db is the recommended floor and after that you may have problems.
In other words 3mbits to 7.6mbits will require that you have 18-24Db of margin to spare thereby leaving you with no less than 8Db after the upgrade so thats either 18+8 = 26Db or 24+8=32Db ....between 26db and 32Db NOW.
If you have 20db margin , or less, today on a 3mbit line you will NOT get 7.6Mbit stable on that line with THAT modem unless you do something .
If your margin is 10-12db AND with a stable 3mbit today (pre upgrade) my advice is to drop down to the 2mbit package and save yourself some money, no tweaking or fiddling will get you to 7.6mb stable save what RC28 said about the Netopia Margin jumping way up with another modem. The Netopia will NOT do it.
If over 15db margin then maybe try to up the margin by working through this information below systematically, try step 4 first as its easy and quick
Kitz recommends the following modems if you are having Margin ( SNR they call it) issues .
http://www.kitz.co.uk/adsl/lowSNR.htm
There are 4 angles of attack alone or in combination , I quote Kitz on 2 of them , 2 and 3.
1. Disconnect ALL Internal wiring and use the main socket only for data , the socket supplied by eircom .
2 and 3 from the Kitz link. They are Check / Change Router and Check / Change Filter- Routers are known to provide a more stable connection than usb modems and the purchase of an adsl router has done the trick for many.
- Be aware that some routers do perform better than others on Low SNR Lines, and although there is no guarantee, it is something very well worth trying.The Speedtouch 585 + 576, Netgear DG834, Westell 6100, D-Link DSL-G604T are some routers that have specifically been known to maintain a more stable connection on a low SNR line.
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~ The Netgear DG834 and DG834G have a very good reputation for being able to hold on to a connection at low SNR. I personally have seen one hang on to a line that frequently drops to 0dB (and below). Other users of the DG834G have reported similar. There's also a few instances where it worked when others wouldn't URL="http://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php?topic=402.msg12226#msg12226"]link[/URL
~ The D-Link DSL-G604T has also been reported* to successfully stabilise a low SNR line which was about to be declared as incapable of supporting adsl. URL="http://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php?topic=402.msg12228#msg12228"]link[/URL.
~ Most Speedtouch routers seem to work well on long lines and have a good reputation -
Adsl Filters. Make sure your filters are fitted correctly. Fit good quality filters, some definitely are better than others - adslnation carries an article which shows the difference in between some filters. Or better still...
If nothing else a good result for test 4 logically tells you your must try 3 if you do need it for voice .
Because your attenuation is so good I would go as far to say there is something wrong with your internal wiring/filters if it's not the router that's causing such poor SN margin.0 -
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Do you live in Newmarket-On-Fergus village or are you slightly out in the countryside?I am on the Newmarket-On-Fergus exchange and my line hasn't been upgraded. I am still getting 2mb. Also the BT checker says that my line won't be upgraded until post September?
I have emailed the Eircom press office but I haven't got a response yet.
I'm from Shannon, which is getting the upgrade this weekend. Though, I live in Tralee, and I'm on one of the two exchanges there that is getting the upgrade this weekend, too. The other Tralee exchange covering the north part of the town is not due to be upgraded until post-September. I guess I got lucky when I was seeking accommodation! 0 -
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