[Eircom & Resellers..BT, UTV etc] ADSL Speed upgrade to 8MB discussion...ongoing

smellslikeshoes

rc28 wrote: »

Those line tests have been proven as innaccurate. I understand wanting to be anonymous but then just don't say what exchange you're on- you wont be forced to in that thread!

Yes they can be pretty inaccurate but they do no different than guessing possible speed by stats.

Gonzo

christ the pings look even higher than what was on the normal business packages over the years. My ISDN line from years back gave way better pings than that. Looks like the latency to irish servers will be around 70 to 120ms on the 7.6meg package.

miralize

mines up to 3mb

wheresmybeaver

rc28 wrote: »

Wow but try a few different speedtests using different servers because sometimes that site can be wrong. Also, if you have time could you post details in here- you speeds are particularly interesting but don't say what exchange you're on if you don't want to.

Yeah I never use speedtest.net, they always quote me the wrong speed. speedtest.ie is more accurately reporting my line as 814kBps download (6.51Mbps) and 70 kBps upload (567kbps). Still, I'm fairly happy.

Router stats:
Rate (Kbps): 7616 672
SNR Margin (dB): 13.7 12.0
Attenuation (dB): 18.0 8.0
Output Power (dBm): 2.7 10.0

I'm on the Glanmire, Cork exchange. I imagine the sync speeds are good because that dreary looking grey building at the bottom of the hill I'm on is probably the exchange.

rc28

wheresmybeaver wrote: »

Yeah I never use speedtest.net, they always quote me the wrong speed. speedtest.ie is more accurately reporting my line as 814kBps download (6.51Mbps) and 70 kBps upload (567kbps). Still, I'm fairly happy.

Router stats:
Rate (Kbps): 7616 672
SNR Margin (dB): 13.7 12.0
Attenuation (dB): 18.0 8.0
Output Power (dBm): 2.7 10.0

I'm on the Glanmire, Cork exchange. I imagine the sync speeds are good because that dreary looking grey building at the bottom of the hill I'm on is probably the exchange.

Cheers. Yup, your attenuation is very good so it probably is the exchange. They are usually ugly one storey buildings.

conceited

Just got upgraded
I'm in Cork

Stats.

Downstream Upstream
Max Allowed Speed (kbps) 7616 672
SN Margin (dB) 21.00 6.50
Line Attenuation (dB) 23.00 13.00
CRC Errors 0 5

rogue-entity

jmccrohan wrote: »

Nice speeds but pretty dirty pings

That site is inaccurate for calculating Pings. Mine are nowhere near as high as that.

Actually, my ping times havnt been affected by the upgrade. They still average 30-40ms for local servers, 60-70 for servers in Germany and 120-ish for US servers.

Pings to kplay.de:
PING kplay.de (81.3.59.4) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from kate.krawall.de (81.3.59.4): icmp_seq=1 ttl=56 time=77.0 ms
64 bytes from kate.krawall.de (81.3.59.4): icmp_seq=2 ttl=56 time=76.9 ms
64 bytes from kate.krawall.de (81.3.59.4): icmp_seq=3 ttl=56 time=79.6 ms
64 bytes from kate.krawall.de (81.3.59.4): icmp_seq=4 ttl=56 time=75.1 ms

--- kplay.de ping statistics ---
4 packets transmitted, 4 received, 0% packet loss, time 2999ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 75.128/77.184/79.651/1.624 ms

Pinging boards.ie:
PING boards.ie (89.234.66.107) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from ip-89-234-66-107.dedi.digiweb.ie (89.234.66.107): icmp_seq=1 ttl=62 time=50.0 ms
64 bytes from ip-89-234-66-107.dedi.digiweb.ie (89.234.66.107): icmp_seq=2 ttl=62 time=50.7 ms
64 bytes from ip-89-234-66-107.dedi.digiweb.ie (89.234.66.107): icmp_seq=3 ttl=62 time=52.3 ms
64 bytes from ip-89-234-66-107.dedi.digiweb.ie (89.234.66.107): icmp_seq=4 ttl=62 time=54.5 ms

--- boards.ie ping statistics ---
4 packets transmitted, 4 received, 0% packet loss, time 2998ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 50.057/51.920/54.527/1.738 ms

If it made any difference, I could get my line switched to fastpath.. but the latency on my connection isn't that bad.

CivilServant

Upgraded to 7.6 on UTV. Pings gone up.

conceited

Just curious can we get interleaving turned down?

Jonathan

Would someone on 7.6Mbps mind doing a tracert to boards.

I wanna see where the ****e ping times are coming from.

Gonzo

jmccrohan wrote: »

Would someone on 7.6Mbps mind doing a tracert to boards.

I wanna see where the ****e ping times are coming from.

theres dos pings to boards.ie a few posts up and they are ranging 50 to 60ms, there normally around 12ms so thats quite a jump.

Jonathan

Gonzo wrote: »

theres dos pings to boards.ie a few posts up and they are ranging 50 to 60ms, there normally around 12ms so thats quite a jump.

I am fully aware of that.

ping != tracert

Demondaze

Limerick, Caherdavin Exchange, UTV 3mb....

ADSL Link Downstream Upstream
Connection Speed 5120 kbps 512 kbps
Line Attenuation 42.0 db 22.0 db
Noise Margin 13.9 db 14.0 db

admol

jmccrohan wrote: »

Would someone on 7.6Mbps mind doing a tracert to boards.

I wanna see where the ****e ping times are coming from.

I would but like you said we should "cut the chat" and not help other users

CivilServant

7.6mbit UTV

Microsoft(R) Windows DOS
(C)Copyright Microsoft Corp 1990-2001.

Tracing route to www.boards.ie [89.234.66.107]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 2 ms 1 ms 1 ms 192.168.0.1
2 38 ms 38 ms 80 ms 194.46.193.66
3 39 ms 38 ms 38 ms 193.95.145.27
4 39 ms 39 ms 38 ms vlan72.rt001.cwt.esat-x.com [193.95.130.209]
5 38 ms 39 ms 38 ms ge0-0.br001.cwt.esat.net [193.95.129.4]
6 38 ms 39 ms 38 ms to-inex-dub-deg-gw.digiweb.ie [193.242.111.20]
7 40 ms 40 ms 38 ms ip-89-234-66-107.dedi.digiweb.ie [89.234.66.107]


Trace complete.

rogue-entity

Trace Route to boards:
traceroute to boards.ie (89.234.66.107), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
1 wlan-rtr-netgear.beer.lan.dragonseye.net (192.168.1.1) 0.544 ms 1.300 ms 1.449 ms
2 ip-83-147-130-254.dsl.digiweb.ie (83.147.130.254) 49.299 ms 51.264 ms 53.606 ms
3 89.234.82.202 (89.234.82.202) 56.634 ms 59.733 ms 60.679 ms
4 ip-89-234-66-107.dedi.digiweb.ie (89.234.66.107) 64.438 ms 66.602 ms 68.136 ms

Edit: Boards really should get the reverse-DNS changed from that default digiweb one

conceited

Pings will be bad for a day or 2 .Thats normal.
Your waisting your time posting pings.

Jonathan

admol wrote: »

I would but like you said we should "cut the chat" and not help other users

Ah but thats a different thread.

One for stats.. One for discussion.

I'm all for helping people

Jumpy

Hmm, upgraded here on Caherdavin but syncing at 4096/384. My line stats can easily handle the full amount. Thats odd.

admol

Can someone explain this? My stats seem to have improved since yesterday?

Is my router compensating for the low SNR and increasing the output power?

Old Stats

Downstream Speed: 3072 kbps
Upstream Speed: 384 kbps

noise margin downstream: 12 db
output power upstream: 1 db
attenuation downstream: 14 db

New Stats

Downstream Speed: 7616 kbps
Upstream Speed: 672 kbps

noise margin downstream: 14 db
output power upstream: 7 db
attenuation downstream: 14 db

Praetorian

That's weird admoi! You made no changes like changing wires? What router have you got? Are you really getting those speeds, downloads are going above 750 K per second?

admol

Praetorian wrote: »

That's weird admoi! You made no changes like changing wires? What router have you got? Are you really getting those speeds, downloads are going above 750 K per second?

Yup here's my latest speedtest. I've changed nothing in terms of internal wiring or anything like that.



Irish ISP Test

Speed test statistics

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Download speed: 6423864 bps
Upload speed: 574720 bps
Quality of service: 92 %
Download test type: socket
Upload test type: socket
Maximum download pause: 181 ms
Average download pause: 13 ms
Minimum round trip time to server: 68 ms
Average round trip time to server: 71 ms

Sqaull20

pphheerroonn

I dunno much about it or if its been posted already. But there was a broadband outage in the 074 area last week. A relation works for eircom so I got him to ask about it he said they upgraded a card or something in sligo and it didn't work so they tried the old card again and it wouldn't work and thats why it was down. I don't know if this is related to this topic but I just thought I would throw it out there.

Hank Scorpio

my exchange just been upgraded will post ping times download speeds etc in a mo, gotta get my brother to do it since im not at home

got em

Go my bro to test some pings so here ya go

ping to kplay.de 40 average
ping to utservers.nl 30 average
ping to jolt/multiplay.co.uk 20 average
ping to eircom.net/boards etc 10-15 average

Ping times on the 3mb package upgrades have seemed to improved, thank god i downgraded to 2mb and am not stuck with 7.6mb and 100 ms pingtimes!

Gonzo

looks like i'll be on the phone to eircom as soon as i get home from my holidays downgrading my package and saving myself 18 euros a month so! The pingtimes on the 7.6meg package are a joke.

mattman

jmccrohan wrote: »

Nothing wrong with BT mate. You sure you had your modem set up correctly? There is an option to disconnect automatically when the line is not in use.. But there is also an always on option.

The 24 hour ip renewal is never an issue for me..

Have to agree...Im with BT for over a year..never any problems!nice fast downloads and fast pings! normally my pings are among the lowest when on servers in europe!

as for re-wire-ing ....all sumed up already by another user.

but its fairly simple..find the 2 wires commin into house. buy your own junction box . install it (easy!)..and plug in there. I have my wireless phone plugged in there also. thus only use one filter!(and i have 2 phones in the house)..can buy cordless phones from any shop for about 35 euro. I got ones made my BT, and NEVER anyproblems!

Jonathan

mattman wrote: »

Have to agree...Im with BT for over a year..never any problems!nice fast downloads and fast pings! normally my pings are among the lowest when on servers in europe!

as for re-wire-ing ....all sumed up already by another user.

but its fairly simple..find the 2 wires commin into house. buy your own junction box . install it (easy!)..and plug in there. I have my wireless phone plugged in there also. thus only use one filter!(and i have 2 phones in the house)..can buy cordless phones from any shop for about 35 euro. I got ones made my BT, and NEVER anyproblems!

I rewired the mastersocket myself. I was kinda sceptical doing it myself and so i asked here but no one replied so i bit the bullet and did it myself.

I posted pictures. Might be of use to people who are wondering which wire is which etc.


EDIT: I cant edit the original post, but i was correct in my assumptions just incase anyone is wondering.

mattman

forget complex wiring!

See picture. the 2 grey wires are commin into house! then just buy junction box in pound shop and way hey!

http://www.grannygrouse.com/rewire.jpg

matt.

Jonathan

mattman wrote: »

forget complex wiring!

See picture. the 2 grey wires are commin into house! then just buy junction box in pound shop and way hey!

http://www.grannygrouse.com/rewire.jpg

matt.

Most people are going to have an eircom NTU tho.