England vs ireland U21

KdjaCL

Live on sky tonight

Got murdered last time, but Givens has no input into this one at all so maybe it be less of a murdering.

Cant access any other sites to find squads but O Carroll should start :cool:


kdjac

dubmick

I expect them to get another hammering tonight. The English ran riot against us here. Only consolation for us is that Agbonlahor is in the senior team now.

MrJoeSoap

Its in St. Marys isn't it? Can't see anything but a rout.

Drew Surman to take advantage of the home ground and bag a goal or two from distance.

jameshayes

It's going to be embarrassing.



Scoreline 3-1

jameshayes

and no doubt the english players will be out to impress the new 1st team boss...

MrJoeSoap

3-1 is probably the least embarrassing we could hope for. Hope I'm proved wrong though.

Mr.Nice Guy

Here's our squad:

Republic of Ireland Under-21s:

Goalkeepers: Darren Randolph (Charlton Athletic), Shane Supple (Falkirk - on loan from Ipswich Town).
Defenders: Eddie Nolan (Blackburn Rovers), Richard Keogh (Bristol City), Joe O’Cearuill (St Patrick’s Athletic), Darren O’Dea (Celtic), Stephen O’Halloran (Aston Villa – on loan at Southampton), Darren Dennehy (Everton).
Midfielders: Stephen Quinn (Sheffield United), Owen Garvan (Ipswich Town), Jim O’Brien (Dundee United - on loan from Celtic), John Joe O’Toole (Watford), Ian Morris (Scunthorpe United), Shane McFaul (Brighton).
Forwards: Anthony Stokes (Sunderland), Adam Rooney (Stoke City), Andy Keogh (Wolves), Billy Clarke (Falkirk - on loan from Ipswich Town).

Here's England's:

England Under-21s:

Goalkeepers: Hart (Man City), Heaton (Manchester United), Lewis (Peterborough).
Defenders: Gardner (Aston Villa), Mancienne (Chelsea), Mattock (Leicester), Shawcross (Stoke), Taylor (Newcastle), Wheater (Middlesbrough).
Midfielders: Huddlestone (Tottenham), Johnson (Middlesbrough), Lennon (Tottenham), Milner (Newcastle), Muamba (Birmingham), Noble, (West Ham), O’Hara (Tottenham), Surman (Southampton).
Forwards: Jerome (Birmingham), Moore (Aston Villa), Vaughan (Everton), Walcott (Arsenal).

Looks like a very difficult night ahead for us.

MrJoeSoap

A squad of mostly Premiership regulars against a who's who of the Championship and Premiership reserves. Certainly looks that way.

Coverage starts at 19.30, kick off 19.45. Have the pancakes ready.

mike65

You'll need about 6 full-size pancakes to cover a widescreen tv.

Mike.

MrJoeSoap

mike65 wrote: »

You'll need about 6 full-size pancakes to cover a widescreen tv.

Mike.

Once I get to eat them afterwards I'm happy.

KdjaCL

MrJoeSoap wrote: »

against a who's who of the Championship and Premiership reserves. Certainly looks that way.
.

Cough Cough


kdjac

MrJoeSoap

KdjaCL wrote: »

Cough Cough


kdjac

What?

KdjaCL

Joe O’Cearuill (St Patrick’s Athletic),

:rolleyes::p

1st since Kevin Doyle irc

kdjac

MrJoeSoap

KdjaCL wrote: »

Joe O’Cearuill (St Patrick’s Athletic),

:rolleyes::p

1st since Kevin Doyle irc

kdjac

First what? Pats player?

Congratulations. The guy hasn't even played a competitive game for y'all yet though. Its downhill from here. Don't forget Stephen Paisley was a regular under 21 player too.

OPENROAD

Looking for a good performance from Theo tonight to boost his confidence.

dc69

OPENROAD wrote: »

Looking for a good performance from Theo tonight to boost his confidence.

what? why would you want an opposition player to do well against ireland,esp england

ireland are actually playing ok,much better than last match.its worth watching

eirebhoy

Passing the ball as well as we did by this stage against England at home with the difference being we're not 3-0 down. The main reason for that would be a central midfielder in O'Toole playing instead of the attacking Jim O'Brien. It was a crazy attacking lineup Givens went with in the home tie but this is a lot more balanced.

Garvan running the show, no surprise. O'Toole looks good beside him. Quinn as always is good on the ball but too lightweight. Stokes is playing too deep for my liking (by instruction).

estebancambias

Ireland being played off the park....:rolleyes:

Decent performance, much better in possession than England, but not the same guile.

Sqaull20

England playing, dont know about the guile bit...


Not a striker among them..

Pearce doesnt have a clue..

Milner and Lennon on the wings and you play Theo through the middle by himself............

Not clever.

Keogh looks useful..

dc69

keogh 1 on 1 and misses,i cant believe it,also theo walcot is rubbish,so overhyped it is laughable,cant finish to save his life

Sqaull20

OPENROAD wrote: »

Looking for a good performance from Theo tonight to boost his confidence.

Looks garbage, couldnt trap a bag of cement.

Cant see him making an impact at Arsenal, Wenger usually teases out any talent in a year.

KdjaCL

****



we were playing very ****ing well


kdjac

~Rebel~

awful goal to concede. 1-0 Milner scorer,

~Rebel~

2-0 Milner again from distance. decent goal.

smackbunnybaby

jeez ireland were miles on side there!

And there is the 3rd

estebancambias

I'm sure OPENROAD is creaming himself.:D

~Rebel~

3-0 nice goal from Walcott.

~Rebel~

smackbunnybaby wrote: »

jeez ireland were miles on side there!

yeah, should have stood, and Ireland would have deserved it.

3-0 isn't a fair reflection on the game really.

estebancambias

What annoys me is people like Joe Soap are right about the result, but for all the wrong reasons.

OPENROAD

dc69 wrote: »

what? why would you want an opposition player to do well against ireland,esp england

ireland are actually playing ok,much better than last match.its worth watching

I'm an Arsenal supporter

OPENROAD

estebancambias wrote: »

I'm sure OPENROAD is creaming himself.:D

Now if he can do it on a regular basis for Arsenal.


Very good performance from Ireland have to say.

~Rebel~

Ireland still pushing at every opertunity, wide open whenever they lose possession. Gutted that goal wasn't given at 2-0, would have been a very different ending to the game, England are happy to leave a few forward at this stage all the time now with their lead.

OPENROAD

Sqaull20 wrote: »

Looks garbage, couldnt trap a bag of cement.

Cant see him making an impact at Arsenal, Wenger usually teases out any talent in a year.

Still very young, he will come good imo.

Mikeyt086

Im impressed with Adam Rooney.

MrJoeSoap

dc69 wrote: »

keogh 1 on 1 and misses,i cant believe it,also theo walcot is rubbish,so overhyped it is laughable,cant finish to save his life

Sqaull20 wrote: »

Looks garbage, couldnt trap a bag of cement.

Cant see him making an impact at Arsenal, Wenger usually teases out any talent in a year.

Yeah hype is all it is. You enjoy the third goal there guys?

estebancambias wrote: »

What annoys me is people like Joe Soap are right about the result, but for all the wrong reasons.

I have to say I expected a much more dominant English performance and 3-0 really flattered them. The disallowed goal should have stood but then again the defence did stop playing when the flag went up. I'd take some positives from our performance though, we certainly weren't outclassed like we were last time.

estebancambias

I like the three in the midfield. We leave a lot to be desired up front. Eddie Nolan was good.

MrJoeSoap

estebancambias wrote: »

I like the three in the midfield. We leave a lot to be desired up front. Eddie Nolan was good.

Essentially playing one up top against two excellent English centre-backs who play regular Premiership football week-in, week-out. It was never going to be pretty.

estebancambias

Good point.

eirebhoy

Very encouraging display I thought. Like the last game vs England an important point is that Randolph, Nolan, O’Cearuill, O’Halloran, O’Toole, Garvan and Stokes all qualify for the U19s.

eirebhoy

MrJoeSoap wrote: »

I have to say I expected a much more dominant English performance and 3-0 really flattered them. The disallowed goal should have stood but then again the defence did stop playing when the flag went up. I'd take some positives from our performance though, we certainly weren't outclassed like we were last time.

I don't think they outclassed us the last day. In the 2nd half they took more control but in the first half I thought we looked the classier side on the ball. Anyway, I had a big debate about it at the time so I won't go into that again. Let's just say we've a few good players coming through and be happy with that.

Xavi6

eirebhoy wrote: »

Very encouraging display I thought. Like the last game vs England an important point is that Randolph, Nolan, O’Cearuill, O’Halloran, O’Toole, Garvan and Stokes all qualify for the U19s.

Garvan also qualifies for the senior squad which is where he should be. he's going to be an important player for us I feel.

eirebhoy

Yeh I agree and I'd definitely have him in. Not just in the squad but probably in the team too.

Mr.Nice Guy

I thought it was a good showing from the Irish lads and as has been mentioned, I think the match was a lot closer than the final scoreline suggested.

I was impressed with the performance of Owen Garvan. I've heard a lot of good things about him and he looks like a player who could be important to us in a few seasons. Keogh wasn't wearing his shooting boots today but he looked lively and worked hard. Rooney also did well when he came on. I felt the young right-back Eddie Nolan made some good tackles although his distribution was quite poor. I think there's potential there however. Stephen Quinn did quite well too overall although he could do with a bit more physical strength.

To sum up I think there are plenty of positives to be taken from this performance.

eirebhoy

I must have counted 6 quick 1-2's that O'Halloran tried and they all came off. I don't know how good a defender he us but he's bloody excellent going forward.

MrJoeSoap

eirebhoy wrote: »

I must have counted 6 quick 1-2's that O'Halloran tried and they all came off. I don't know how good a defender he us but he's bloody excellent going forward.

Yeah he was hugely impressive going forward, still hasn't made any impact at Southampton but would like to see him given a shot at least after tonight. Unfortunate for the first goal though.

KdjaCL

EB i nearly sure Caffrey was manager last time too.


thought we played well without any PL style pentration.


Biased view present St pats players and ex Pats players were the best on the pitch.

Quinn, Rooney and my new god O Carroll

Givens out tbh give the job McCaffrey or Mahon off UCD.


kdjac

MrJoeSoap

KdjaCL wrote: »

EB i nearly sure Caffrey was manager last time too.

Republic boss Don Givens:
"It's never happened to me before, going 3-0 down and feeling like the better team."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/internationals/7047977.stm

Best players on the pitch were O'Halloran, Walcott and Surman.

Villain

O'Halloran is thought of highly at Villa Park, I think he will find it hard to break into the first team, however with Cahill gone to Bolton he is now our main young Centre back, he's on loan until February.

dc69

MrJoeSoap wrote: »

Yeah hype is all it is. You enjoy the third goal there guys?


#

he is pony and trap,goal or no goal.

MrJoeSoap

dc69 wrote: »

he is pony and trap,goal or no goal.

Anything else you are basing this on? He set the Championship on fire at age 17.

Villain

He's crap in football manager, but you already knew that