I hope Brazil thrash us...

whiskeyman

Anyone hope we get annihilated tonight?
The only people this 'friendly' means anything to is the FAI (who get a windfall once again for using a sold out Croker) and Don 'Give me more time' Givens who can talk about the time he managed Ireland against Brazil in a full house Croke Park.

This should have been a vital preparation game for our new manager to start his new team and new tactics.

Yeah, I know there's gonna be people having a go at me as 'you should always support your team, no matter what.... blah blah.

How do you think the players feel going into such a high profile friendly, still with no manager and no real direction?

It's all gone beyond a joke.

I'd be sick if we somehow pulled off a win tonight, to see smug Delaney then make comments about the wonderful state of Irish soccer...


Mods - I started new thread to allow other Ireland Vs Brazil thread be used more for team discussion and warm up / match itself.

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Don't be so unpatriotic.

Where is your national pride?

homerjay2005

your a true supported so ya? you want your country to get beaten, this sickens me

listen, i dont give 1 f**k about the FAI, i really dont. i only care about 1 thing and 1 thing only, the 11 lads that wear the green on the pitch, representing the country that i was born in. your a disgrace, you really are. take off your anti fai tinted glasses and support your country ffs.

by the way, i have heard from reliable sources, that the fai will make very little from tonight. they have had to pay a good few million euros(i have heard 4) to get brazil here and are paying the GAA 1.25 million euro. so add up all other expenses and maybe you realise that this game is not about money. The serbia game maybe, but not this. These typs of posts are total crap and anyway, theres already an ireland brazil thread, why couldn you post in that?

Nailz

I want Ireland to do well, but I just can't be arsed concentrating on this game. If Oireland get to the World Cup, great and I'll follow them the whole way through the qualifiers, but it's only a friendly.

event

all joking aside, what is the point of this thread?

you know what people are going to say, this is going to become another anti FAI thread

wahey

whiskeyman

homerjay2005 wrote: »

this game is not about money.

Then what the hell is this game about???

Oh right... for the 'fans'...

DSB

Someone please delete this ridiculous thread.

gimmick

^ Why, because you disagree with its sentiment?

I hope Oireland are beaten soundly tonight. If for no other reason that Don Givens delightful little quote the other day - something along the lines of - "We would have a manager in place if I didn't have to concentrate on first team affairs for this game". Yes, because this game is more important. Idiot. But at least the Ireland "fans" will be happy that they get to see their favourite TV stars.

homerjay2005

whiskeyman wrote: »

Then what the hell is this game about???

Oh right... for the 'fans'...

so you would rather we play an even more meaningless friendly then so ya? like england v switzerland for example?

or would you rather we play greece or latvia like other countries. the point of this is its an internationl week and we have to play somebody. the fact that its brazil means the most famous team in the world and here and lets just f**king enjoy it. Im supporting Ireland and I hope we win and even if it was Iceland or f**king Turkey, i would still be in Croke Park tonight.

Boggles

homerjay2005 wrote: »

by the way, i have heard from reliable sources, that the fai will make very little from tonight. they have had to pay a good few million euros(i have heard 4) to get brazil here

Rubbish, 4 million?? Who is this "source". Brazil do get money, but not no where near 4 million.

Mr Alan

Why the **** do people on these boards feel they are an authority on wat threads are allowed and wat threads arent?! if the mods dont think this is a valid thread, they'll close it. If you dont like this thread IGNORE IT. simple.

gimmick

I suppose the box office attraction of Brazil will help the FAI pay their rent of the GAAs ground anyway.

whiskeyman

homerjay2005 wrote: »

so you would rather we play an even more meaningless friendly then so ya? like england v switzerland for example?

That's a hugely significant match for them, under their new manager as he starts his preparations for WC2010 qualification. I'm watching that tonight.

homerjay2005

Boggles wrote: »

Rubbish, 4 million?? Who is this "source". Brazil do get money, but not no where near 4 million.

well can u prove me wrong so? i came up with a figure that i have been told and i stand by that. The lad that told me this, also told me this game was happening about 6 weeks before it became common knowledge so i trust him that its correct.

Mr Alan

can ya ask him who the new manager is please?

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Mr Alan wrote: »

can ya ask him who the new manager is please?

Ireland will have a different manager for every game.

Trapatoni, ElTel, Gerry H, Jean Tigana, Lawrie Sanchez, Big Mick, Steve Kenny, Omar Troussier.

homerjay2005

Mr Alan wrote: »

can ya ask him who the new manager is please?

he has already told me. i have already posted about this.

but, i do agree with one thing in this thread, DON GIVENS is a muppet and a disgrace to Irish football.

BaZmO*

homerjay2005 wrote: »

well can u prove me wrong so? i came up with a figure that i have been told and i stand by that. The lad that told me this, also told me this game was happening about 6 weeks before it became common knowledge so i trust him that its correct.

Didn't the FAI hand over the TV rights to the last game as part payment thereby reducing the cost to get them to play? And then used the attraction of seeing Brazil play to bundle the two other friendlies against less attractive teams into a 3 ticket bundle.

As for hoping to see Ireland get thrashed? Whatever floats your boat I suppose. Personally I hope Ireland win but I'd never hope for anything other than that tbh.

~Rebel~

Id rather we win and the whole country gets a little bit of joy from it then hoping for a beating just to spite a few guys in Dublin...

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I hope Brazil win.

They have all of these amazing players, and I just hope they turn on the style and entertain me for ninety minutes.

It doesn't really matter to Ireland anyway, no manager, players playing for nothing, and I, as a consumer, just want to see a decent level of football being played by these superstars who are coming to my hometown.

Boggles

homerjay2005 wrote: »

well can u prove me wrong so? i came up with a figure that i have been told and i stand by that. The lad that told me this, also told me this game was happening about 6 weeks before it became common knowledge so i trust him that its correct.

They will make 3 million from gate receipts tonight.

3 - 4 (Brazil) - 1.25 (Gaa) = -2.25 million euro

Your friend is blowing smoke up your arse!

Nailz

€-2.25m!? Do the FAI ever learn?

flanzer

All I want is to be entertained. On the pitch, I'm expecting Brazil to do so tonught. Off the pitch I expect the muppet's in the FAI to do so in typical Monty Python fashion for next couple of weeks.

Without sounding like a gossip merchant, I'm hoping to see a candidate or two in the crowd tonight to start the tongues wagging even further.

If Brazil do gives us a hiding, I can't see Trap coming near us though. Venables would (as he would take the managers job in the local Centra if the money was right)

I don't really care about the result and but am hoping Duffers can regain some of his magic after his time on the sidelines. I'm also hoping to see Robbie Keane reproducing some of his form in the Premiership.

So 4-3 to Brazil would do me, thank you!

LuckyLloyd

gimmick wrote: »

^ Why, because you disagree with its sentiment?

I hope Oireland are beaten soundly tonight. If for no other reason that Don Givens delightful little quote the other day - something along the lines of - "We would have a manager in place if I didn't have to concentrate on first team affairs for this game". Yes, because this game is more important. Idiot. But at least the Ireland "fans" will be happy that they get to see their favourite TV stars.

lol. bitter eircom league "true salt of the earth supporter" fan alert.

The hate for Don Givens is small minded and forgetful.

gosplan

I'd love to see us win.

Partly because the result might convince someone like Trappatoni that we're worth it and also because Ireland would have beaten Brazil.

I understand the original sentiment though. It's hard sometimes to separate the boys in green from the inept association behind them.

joe316

If i remember correctly from watching a documentry about brazil and nike's control over them, they charge $2 million dollars per friendly. They are the harlem globetrotters of the football world.


so when are boardeux clubbing together to get a friendly against them???

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joe316 wrote: »

so when are boardeux clubbing together to get a friendly against them???

:D

Long time waiting for that to happen.

Would Boardsies come to watch I wonder?

SUPPORT YOU LOCAL TEAM :D

We were shíte last night though :o

Xavi6

DesF wrote: »

:D

Long time waiting for that to happen.

Would Boardsies come to watch I wonder?

SUPPORT YOU LOCAL TEAM :D

We were shíte last night though :o

That's what happens when you get linked to Ireland job, pressure gets to you. I was surprised there was no option for you in the manager thread. Your odds on betfair have fallen dramatically lately

Mr Alan

where do bordeaux play?

PHB

Do I want the FAI to change? Yes
Do I think Brazil beating us tonight will have any effect? No
Do I think you should always want your team to win no matter what? No
Will I be cheering on Ireland tonight? Absolutely.

The FAI is not going to change, get over it. The only people who can really affect change in there is the players and the management themselves. Neither look willing to step up to the plate, and the last one who did sacrifice the team winning to try change the FAI is hated by half the population of Ireland. If Roy Keane couldn't do it, then I honestly don't think anyone could.
As such, I'll always support the team cause since the other way doesn't help us in the long term anymore than us winning with the crap FAI does.

Loomis

homerjay2005 wrote: »

well can u prove me wrong so? i came up with a figure that i have been told and i stand by that. The lad that told me this, also told me this game was happening about 6 weeks before it became common knowledge so i trust him that its correct.

Yes. They only paid them 500,000 the last time they came here and the only reason it was so costly was they were world champions at the time. The figure this time round won't even be 500,000 let alone anywhere near 4million

homerjay2005

Boggles wrote: »

They will make 3 million from gate receipts tonight.

3 - 4 (Brazil) - 1.25 (Gaa) = -2.25 million euro

Your friend is blowing smoke up your arse!

so your the accountant for the fai now ya? first off, they will make about 5 million from tonight, 3. 3 million approx from gate receipts and dont forget hospitality, corporate boxes, tv rights and advertising. also remember, this is a 2 game set up, alot who have bought tickets for tonight, have also bought them for serbia, that is where the money is made up. your 2.25 millions loss is about 3 million wrong my friend, the fai will not lose money on this, but overall, from the 2 games, there not making the fortune that everybody says. brazil could have played anywhere tonight, what way do you entice them to a cold and wet croker? throw an extra million or 2 on to them.

remember, the FAI, under Delaney, know how to make money, what ever about running football.

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Mr Alan wrote: »

where do bordeaux play?

Our next two games are on the next 2 Tuesdays in St Columbas College, near Marlay park, at 21.30.

Are you coming for a look?

I could probably arrange one of the lads to pick you up.

Mr Alan

you ever play anywhere closer to home?

gimmick

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

lol. bitter eircom league "true salt of the earth supporter" fan alert.

The hate for Don Givens is small minded and forgetful.

Bitter? Seems you have an agenda.

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Mr Alan wrote: »

you ever play anywhere closer to home?

Alan, I do enjoy the banter with you on here, but that doesn't actually extend to stalking you in real life.

I have absolutely no idea where "home" is for you

Mr Alan

oh yea, sorry forgot! its homerjay who has my address

northside, howth out to fairview would be perfect

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Mr Alan wrote: »

oh yea, sorry forgot! its homerjay who has my address

Must get it off him so I can send you a Xmas card.

Mr Alan wrote: »

northside, howth out to fairview would be perfect

I live Northside too

I get a lift every Tuesday.

Come on out man.

homerjay2005

Mr Alan wrote: »

oh yea, sorry forgot! its homerjay who has my address

northside, howth out to fairview would be perfect

to pay a bet i may add, which has been paid online.....

EDIT: this is a classic example of how threads on here get totally off topic.

back on track , Come on you boys in green!

so,who is actually going to this game? i am anyway

Mr Magnolia

Looking forward to it. Must wrap up well.

Anyways, if Brasil do beat us it will be made light of, as 'it is Brasil after all'

Loomis

Going too. Hopefully we'll see some good stuff from the likes of Robinho and Anderson as they should be able to come out of their shell more I'd imagine with the more high profile players out

LuckyLloyd

gimmick wrote: »

Bitter? Seems you have an agenda.

Me, agenda? No. Plus, I'm not even your problem. I attend a few EL games a year and understand a thing or two about football. So I'm not the type that needs converting.

But, as much as you are bitter about the fact that the EL is small fry in this country - and a meanginless show friendly against Brazil will create more coverage and attention and money than 15 EL matches: you should hold your tongue when it comes to Don Givens.

He may have nothing to do with the EL, but he has busted his ass off for football in this country. As a player who gave 100%; and as a manager who traipses around with a succession of underfunded, underskilled and uncared for U21 teams.

Boggles

homerjay2005 wrote: »

so your the accountant for the fai now ya? first off, they will make about 5 million from tonight, 3. 3 million approx from gate receipts and dont forget hospitality, corporate boxes, tv rights and advertising. also remember, this is a 2 game set up, alot who have bought tickets for tonight, have also bought them for serbia, that is where the money is made up. your 2.25 millions loss is about 3 million wrong my friend, the fai will not lose money on this, but overall, from the 2 games, there not making the fortune that everybody says. brazil could have played anywhere tonight, what way do you entice them to a cold and wet croker? throw an extra million or 2 on to them.

remember, the FAI, under Delaney, know how to make money, what ever about running football.

No but you sure sound like it. You forgot to mention they have to pay other people aswell, like staff???

If Brazil are getting 4 million for tonights match I will eat Eamonn Dunphys Tweed Jacket.

Cold & Wet night, your fogetting most of the Brazilians are used to this considering most of them play there football in Europe.

Your also controdicting yourself, "The FAI know how to make money" - But your saying they will not make a substantial profit?

Jazzy

DesF wrote: »

I hope Brazil win.

did u not draw a line from where u were born and see that Ireland was the closest country to ya? ur supporting system confuses me Des

OhNoYouDidn't

homerjay2005 wrote: »

well can u prove me wrong so? i came up with a figure that i have been told and i stand by that. The lad that told me this, also told me this game was happening about 6 weeks before it became common knowledge so i trust him that its correct.

Brazil charge $1m per game.

Much as I don't want to do it..... FACT!

shane86

These type of posts came up around the time of the San Marino game, "aw fuk Stan, Ill be cheering for SM". Childish stuff.


Is the match live online anywhere for free? Cant make it down the pub tonight and this gaff only has poxy old ntl cable (not my descision I can assure you)

OhNoYouDidn't

For the record, one thing that fundamentally gets on my nerves is Ole Ole barstoolers who wouldnt be caught dead at any Irish game below the senior side giving out that the FAI are 'cashing in' on glamour ties like this.

They need to because people like you cant be relied on to attend any other games and fund the association like every other group of fans do.

No doubt the same guys who want the players in 5 star hotels and first class seats on planes.

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Jazzy wrote: »

did u not draw a line from where u were born and see that Ireland was the closest country to ya? ur supporting system confuses me Des

Did you forget to turn on your sarcasm radar this morning?

joe316

wheres the best place to park for this tonight, normally wouldnt drive but bringing two smallish kids to it. Coming from kildare direction

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joe316 wrote: »

wheres the best place to park for this tonight, normally wouldnt drive but bringing two smallish kids to it. Coming from kildare direction

Find a parking place in Dublin CC and walk out to Croker, or else get a bus.

It's about a 15 minute walk from O'Connell St.

All of the streets around Croke Park will need Parking Permits, as is the case on Gah Big Days Out, and other International Soccer and Rugby games.

zuutroy

Is it on live on any channel?