Fox Rifle with Garda go ahead

ivanthehunter

From reading the boards its seems that a lot of folk take their well oiled .243 or .223 or similar with them when going foxing-- If a chap had no interest in deer hunting and wanted a larger center fire for good fox sport, what would stand in his way if he approached the super????

I cant remember ever reading that a rifle bigger than a 22/250 was only allow for use on deer..
My excuse to the super might be:- Its just that in mountainous country you can get shot that deserve a hi powered round with a couple of cubic km's of mother earth behind for the ultimate backdrop.:cool:.......400m-- not that i have taken such a shot:(

foxshooter243

what exactly is the question?

ivanthehunter

Do you need a deer license in order to get a med center fire rifle.

pestshooter7

Eh well for starters the 223 isnt a deer rifle.
And even with a high powered rifle (308) etc the effective fange on a fox is the very simular due to bullet drop and wind drift!
Also a fox hit with a 223 at 300yrds is just as dead as with a 308 or simular!
So if your not shooting deer or target with it then IMO theres no point getting it!

clivej

pestshooter7 wrote: »

Eh well for starters the 223 isnt a deer rifle.
And even with a high powered rifle (308) etc the effective fange on a fox is the very simular due to bullet drop and wind drift!
Also a fox hit with a 223 at 300yrds is just as dead as with a 308 or simular!
So if your not shooting deer or target with it then IMO theres no point getting it!

I can see where ivanthehunter is coming from with getting a bigger calibre gun. I live in Kilkenny city and the Super will NOT sign for a .223 as its a military round as far as he's concerned, see my threads here on this ".223 not allowed here". My son has applied for a .223 but he's under a different Super. I still will not get to use his gun as the above will still apply to me, even when its his gun.
BUT the Super will sign for a bigger calibre so the FO has told me. So I'm looking at getting a .308 and going target shooting and joining the Midlands range. This will be the only way I can get a gun, that is effective, to go fox shooting with my son as well.
Bit OTT I know but you gota do what you gota do.

Trojan911

clivej wrote: »

BUT the Super will sign for a bigger calibre so the FO has told me.

Your Super sounds like he has not got a clue.

Sandy22

ivanthehunter wrote: »

I cant remember ever reading that a rifle bigger than a 22/250 was only allow for use on deer..
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What you have probably read is something like "..only a rifle of .22/250 or bigger is allowed for deer.."

Not the same thing.

dos29

So I'm looking at getting a .308

i know ye're having trouble with the super in kilkenny, and my sympathy's!!
but if his reasoning for not giving 223 is that its a military round, than the same might apply to 308(7.62)!!! if the reasoning you use to get it is target shooting, same might be done with 223.
i hope you get a rifle in a calibre of your choice, just saying ya might have a problem with 308 if thats the supers mantality, so ya dont get another big drop!

bunny shooter

clivej wrote: »

So I'm looking at getting a .308 and going target shooting and joining the Midlands range. This will be the only way I can get a gun, that is effective, to go fox shooting with my son as well.

Not quite, you can get .220 Hornet, .17 REM, .204 Ruger or .220 Swift, all as good if not better than the .223 REM for foxing in their own ways!

Or is it the apparently cheaper ammo that draws you to the .223 REM?

monksavage

im in th market for a .223 for foxes and target but specificall for the cheaper ammo, is there anything that packs the same punch with simmilarly priced ammo as the .223

foxhunter

monksavage wrote: »

im in th market for a .223 for foxes and target but specificall for the cheaper ammo, is there anything that packs the same punch with simmilarly priced ammo as the .223

You can pick up 22/250 ammo from around €20 a box for federal soft point
55 grn.

bunny shooter

For target 223 is definately cheapest to shoot unless you want a 308 and I wouldn't recommend that for fox

pestshooter7

foxhunter wrote: »

You can pick up 22/250 ammo from around €20 a box for federal soft point
55 grn.

Federal soft points are to tough a bulley for fox.
The just pass through the fox with very little damage!
But if your not shooting fox then no problem!!!:)