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AH Shocker: Morally Ambiguous Boardsies

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 831 ✭✭✭Laslo


    There's a pathetic little boy on this thread. I don't want to get banned so I won't say who it is.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,250 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dub13


    spurious wrote: »
    I often wonder what Ireland would be like had we had a good old fashioned proper war with conscription in recent years - a great clearing out of 'scummers' and diminishing of their breeding chances I'm sure.

    So you think only 'scummers' fight in wars...what a generalization.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,250 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dub13


    Laslo wrote: »
    There's a pathetic little boy on this thread. I don't want to get banned so I won't say who it is.

    Then why did you post...?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,382 ✭✭✭✭AARRRGH


    Dub13 wrote: »
    Then why did you post...?

    It was aimed at me. He's an angry person.

    This post:
    Laslo wrote:
    There's a pathetic little boy on this thread. I don't want to get banned so I won't say who it is.

    is a direct reponse to this post (directed at him) I made today:
    dublindude wrote:
    Disagreeing with someone is fine, but your posts are generally quite offensive.

    His posts about Irish women are particularly unpleasant, so I'm assuming he is pissed off that I defended the girl Mairt degraded.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,061 ✭✭✭✭Terry


    Thread title edited.
    Please untwist knickers.

    Edit: brb. better idea.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,061 ✭✭✭✭Terry


    spurious wrote: »
    Or one who wants to make sure his friends know that at least HE can get a girl near him.

    I often wonder what Ireland would be like had we had a good old fashioned proper war with conscription in recent years - a great clearing out of 'scummers' and diminishing of their breeding chances I'm sure.
    So if conscription was to happen tomorrow, you wouldn't be called up?
    I know I wouldn't be conscripted, but only because I'm a mentalist.
    What's your excuse? Too posh for war?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    DaveMcG wrote: »
    Already abusing the oul' power?
    Oh offensive comments are punishable. If you're cool about what Mairt said, fine. Anyone with a bit of sense however would be disgusted by it.
    You don't know the girl, and he didn't even mention a name, so she could well be a slapper (and judging by the story, she is).
    Oh but it was ok for Mairt to happily accept the blowjob from this "slapper". If she was so reprehensible then he should have kept it in his trousers. AND he was at work. But... he's a bloke, and it's sex, and it's "cool", and it makes him the big man, so it's ok! :rolleyes:
    GOOD FOR YOU!!! Weren't you the little individual when you were a teen :rolleyes: Unfortunately alot of -- dare I say most -- teenagers tend to go along with the crowd and try to fit in/be cool. That may involve smoking cigarettes, drinking alcohol, or yes, having sex. Not everyone was as mature as your good self.
    Meh, still not necessary to boast about it.
    Mairt wrote: »
    And don't.

    Someone is losing sleep about this thread, the rest of us are not (you & I included).

    The moral horse is a high one when one falls off.
    Mairt: STFU
    rb_ie wrote: »
    Fwiw I thought Mairts stories were quite funny and inoffensive. The girl deserved to be called a slut because, at the end of the day, what kind of woman randomly offers a doorman a blowjob?
    Obviously had no respect for herself, so why should she be shown any?
    You'd still shag her. And you still would have shagged those teenage girls who you knew sex was a big deal for. I mean, you say they're often not ready at such a young age, yet the teenage boys, who you reckon are ready, still have to shag someone. And it's not likely to be an older, experienced female.
    Bottom line: If some of you guys are gonna use a silly, vulnerable girl to stick it into, fine. But please don't call her a slut/slapper or say she's got no respect for herself, is degrading herself etc. I can't see how you're so much better than her if you still can't keep it in your pants for someone who is apparently so undesirable. That seems pretty degrading to me...
    Laslo wrote: »
    Wow. Certainly living up to the misogynistic, knuckle-dragging bouncer idiot stereotype.
    No personal abuse please.
    I think you will find that Mairts was threatened with a banning over his offensive comment to me. Not his offensive original story.
    It was for both.

    As for the throwing condoms thing: If someone's gonna use the private property of someone else - and a kids' tree-house of all things - AND leave condoms strewn around, while it may not be "cool" to criticise it, it's very much deserved. I'd like to see Mairt's, Quality's etc faces if they discovered someone was doing it in their kids' treehouses...

    By the way, I'm not on my high horse, I have an OPINION. Just because it's at odds with a sheep mentality, doesn't mean it's any less valid.

    And I presume spurious meant that anyone could have been conscripted but that would also include "scummers".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,541 ✭✭✭Davei141


    I had a feeling afterhours would of had the fun sucked out of it when you became a mod.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,179 ✭✭✭FunkZ


    The new title is funny though...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,382 ✭✭✭✭AARRRGH


    Davei141 wrote: »
    I had a feeling afterhours would of had the fun sucked out of it when you became a mod.

    I think she's very fair and reasonable actually...

    AH used to be a lot worse :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    The "what petty crimes did you commit as a kid" thread:

    "I used to go drinking with my mates in some neighbour's treehouse (don't know who he was) every so often and leave the cans strewn around".

    Other posters: "You little scumbag" etc.

    But it's ok to be obnoxious when it comes to sex because it's "cool"...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,541 ✭✭✭Davei141


    dublindude wrote: »
    I think she's very fair and reasonable actually...

    AH used to be a lot worse :)

    A threat of a ban over a story Because its "offensive" to her is crap. Everything on AH is offensive to somebody.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Actually, using a girl quite happily for sex/head then calling her a "slapper" is offensive to all women so if certain males continue to post sh1t like that, I'll continue to object to it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,382 ✭✭✭✭AARRRGH


    Davei141 wrote: »
    A threat of a ban over a story Because its "offensive" to her is crap. Everything on AH is offensive to somebody.

    I also think what Mairt did is offensive. Degrading someone is not funny.

    I don't think he should be banned for saying such a thing, but his post was obviously going to upset some people, so really, he should have known better before posting.

    He's also one of the "older" boards.ie users as far as I know.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,541 ✭✭✭Davei141


    Dudess wrote: »
    Actually, using a girl quite happily for sex/head then calling her a "slapper" is offensive to all women so if certain males continue to post sh1t like that, I'll continue to object to it.

    Give me a break, how often you get a bunch of man hating fruitcakes going on about how all men are bastards they never get warned.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,382 ✭✭✭✭AARRRGH


    Yeah but they're not physically degrading the men. I have no problem with girls saying lots of men are **** (true) but I would have a problem with a group of women physically degrading a man and then calling him a wanker.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,541 ✭✭✭Davei141


    dublindude wrote: »
    Yeah but they're not physically degrading the men. I have no problem with girls saying lots of men are **** (true) but I would have a problem with a group of women physically degrading a man and then calling him a wanker.

    Physically degrading? You make it sound like he forced her to do anything


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,061 ✭✭✭✭Terry


    I find that men who regularly refer to or treat women in a degrading fashion are more likely to end up living with one of these so-called sluts.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Well he happily complied when she offered him a blowjob despite being so disgusted by her, then laughed at her/called her a slapper... oh, and let his mates watch it over a camera.

    But it's ok, because he's "de MAAAAN" and she's just a "slapper"...

    Can you really not see how that's offensive to women? And it's all too common, sadly it's not isolated to Mairt's post. The attitude is rife among certain males on Boards.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,382 ✭✭✭✭AARRRGH


    Davei141 wrote: »
    Physically degrading? You make it sound like he forced her to do anything

    She didn't sign up for a sex show. Forcing someone to go through with that (and let's be clear, she had no choice in the matter so it was forced) is physically degrading.
    Terry wrote:
    I find that men who regularly refer to or treat women in a degrading fashion are more likely to end up living with one of these so-called sluts.

    I agree.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,229 ✭✭✭Susannahmia


    Dudess wrote: »
    Actually, using a girl quite happily for sex/head then calling her a "slapper" is offensive to all women so if certain males continue to post sh1t like that, I'll continue to object to it.

    +1 I found his attitude very offensive and think it warrants a ban. If it weren't for Mairt being a "regular" I think that may have already happened.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Laslo wrote: »
    There's a pathetic little boy on this thread. I don't want to get banned so I won't say who it is.
    But I'm sure you know he's reading or you wouldn't have posted a nasty dig like that.
    Don't use After Hours to make snide remarks directed at other posters. Be a grown-up about it (instead of a "little boy") and use the PM facility.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,541 ✭✭✭Davei141


    Dudess wrote: »
    Well he happily complied when she offered him a blowjob despite being so disgusted by her, then laughed at her/called her a slapper... oh, and let his mates watch it over a camera.

    But it's ok, because he's "de MAAAAN" and she's just a "slapper"...

    Unfortunately for everyone that is society, there is double standards in all walks of life.
    Can you really not see how that's offensive to women? And it's all too common, sadly it's not isolated to Mairt's post. The attitude is rife among certain males on Boards.

    Its offensive to her yeah, i still dont see how its offensive to you or women. I feel some people just like getting wound up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,983 ✭✭✭Red Hand


    Terry wrote: »
    I find that men who regularly refer to or treat women in a degrading fashion are more likely to end up living with one of these so-called sluts.

    +1. Some seem to forget the Golden Rule...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Davei141 wrote: »
    Unfortunately for everyone that is society, there is double standards in all walks of life.
    Oh so we just "put up with it" then?
    Its offensive to her yeah, i still dont see how its offensive to you or women. I feel some people just like getting wound up.
    Because it's representative of an attitude prevalent in wider society.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,382 ✭✭✭✭AARRRGH


    Davei141 wrote: »
    Its offensive to her yeah, i still dont see how its offensive to you or women. I feel some people just like getting wound up.

    I think what Dudess might be offended about is that Mairt's behaviour is seen as acceptable by a lot of people. It's like women "deserve" to be treated badly if they're in any way a bit promiscuous.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,983 ✭✭✭Red Hand


    What if the girl involved had a camera and took a picture of him as he was in that moment, and posted it to her friends? Like, its the same thing-its got nothing to do with sex-its public humiliation of the girl...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,639 ✭✭✭Iago


    Ok, I've checked the charter and there's no mention of being offensive to non-users who are nothing but a generic person not identified in any way, so I'm not sure why Mairt would be at risk of a banning from that.

    I normally don't agree with a lot of what he posts, but that's not the point.

    Also I've reported the post from Dudess where she tells Mairt to STFU as it's abusive against a fellow poster which is covered in the charter.

    Not to mention that

    Threads on Sex or Sexuality
    - There is a seperate forum to discuss this now, this forum requires a subscription for access. Any threads on these topics will be locked on sight. Repeat offenders will be banned

    which means this topic should have been locked and deleted immediately.

    there will be impressionable 12-15 year olds readng this thread and thinking "well if everyone else thinks it's cool, I should be doing it as well"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,229 ✭✭✭Susannahmia


    dublindude wrote: »
    I think what Dudess might be offended about is that Mairt's behaviour is seen as acceptable by a lot of people. It's like women "deserve" to be treated badly if they're in any way a bit promiscuous.

    That is exactly why I for one, am offended. This kind of attitude should not be accepted or encouraged anywhere in society, even in a message board.
    What if the girl involved had a camera and took a picture of him as he was in that moment, and posted it to her friends? Like, its the same thing-its got nothing to do with sex-its public humiliation of the girl...

    That would obviously be just as unacceptable.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭Rb


    Ladies, provided you have somewhat normal morals (as I know Dudess does), then you should differentiate yourselves from women such as the one in the story and be able to laugh at them along with everyone else.

    She is a slapper, plain and simple. As is any girl who goes and gives a bouncer a BJ probably ten minutes after meeting him. DublinDude, don't give me this "Different women have different moral values" bs, in society it's unacceptable to go around randomly sucking men off in toilets. It's prostitute behaviour and are prostitutes accepted members of our society?Hell no, should they be?Probably not.
    Some would simply view such a person (random blowjob giver) as a slapper, others in this country would take the attitude that they're a fcking slut and a disgrace to their family, not my attitude but I'm sure there's a lot who'd possess such one. Unless you are a prostitute or just hang around with a load of them/were brought up by them, then you're going to view such a person in a negative way.

    Sure, what Mairt did was somewhat degrading, but the girl had already done 95% of the work involved in degrading herself in the first place. That's not to say what Mairt did was right, but the instead of abusing him on the matter, maybe you should look at what the woman did and think "Well, she did put herself in the position, maybe had she practised somewhat tighter morals, this type of thing wouldn't happen".
    If your daughter came home and said "Hey Dad, tonight I sucked off a bouncer in X club bathrooms, but I got free admission", even those with slightly looser morals wouldn't think "Oh, that's great honey, well done on saving a few quid", you'd be sick to your stomach at her behaviour.

    As I said, to normal women with relatively normal moral values, you should completely differentiate yourself from them. They're not the same as you and you're nowhere near the same as them, so why take offense on their behalf? Or why take it as a dig at the female race as a whole? It's not, it's simply targetted at slappers who go down on their knees to random men in filthy cubicles in club bathrooms.


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