Jap import - Where to get ecu or remap for Irsh Fuel

gline

I just got a 92 mr2 turbo.

Im looking to get it chipped/remapped so that it can be used with Irish fuel and to get rid of the limiter

Where can I get this done?

Atomic Pineapple

you should try westward engineering, they seem to come highly reccommended when re-maps are mentioned, no experience with them myself.

http://www.westwardeng.com/

i'm not sure but i think you might need a "piggyback" to go on the ecu to fool it into thinking the car isnt goin over 112mph.

you should join the mr2 owners clubs for advice on and anything else you might need to know

http://www.mr2oc.com/ - uk

http://www.mr2.com/ - international

gline

draffodx wrote: »

you should try westward engineering, they seem to come highly reccommended when re-maps are mentioned, no experience with them myself.

http://www.westwardeng.com/

i'm not sure but i think you might need a "piggyback" to go on the ecu to fool it into thinking the car isnt goin over 112mph.

you should join the mr2 owners clubs for advice on and anything else you might need to know

http://www.mr2oc.com/ - uk

http://www.mr2.com/ - international

thanks mate. yeh im booked in, in westward in 2 weeks for a rolling road session, gonna have a chat with them then.

they said in email that i'd have to get an ecu kit like an apexi or something can be real expensive

pedro ferio-vti

Running the car on Maxol's regular unleaded might help in the interim.

gline

pedro ferio-vti wrote: »

Running the car on Maxol's regular unleaded might help in the interim.

Or i can just use an additive.

Westward said also you can use the "E40"(im not sure that was the exact letter and number) fuel and it will be fine.

There attitude was "you can run on Irish fuel". But from reading online, everyone seems to recommend NOT doaing that and warn about possible damage to engine ESPECIALLY for a 92 model

I dont know what to do about this..

Can anyone recommend an ecu or piggyback that is not too expensive, the apexi kits are like €1000+, i really only want to spend maybe €00 max (inc fitting)

I bought a delimiter for the car too, so that sorts that problem, it was cheap on ebay, I hope it is ok and not some cheap-ass mod that will fall apart in my hands

Atomic Pineapple

i presume they meant the maxol e5 this is rated 99ron so is much better than the petrol from any other station, used with octane booster the mr2 should be fine, I'm no expert though, i wouldn't reccomend running it on 95ron the whole time as i have heard the engines do detonate, gettin an apexi ecu might be expensive but it would be worth it in my opinion

gline

draffodx wrote: »

i presume they meant the maxol e5 this is rated 99ron so is much better than the petrol from any other station, used with octane booster the mr2 should be fine, I'm no expert though, i wouldn't reccomend running it on 95ron the whole time as i have heard the engines do detonate, gettin an apexi ecu might be expensive but it would be worth it in my opinion

well 99 ron is fine, jap is 98-100 yeh???
So maybe the E5 is the way to go without additive

Atomic Pineapple

gline wrote: »

well 99 ron is fine, jap is 98-100 yeh???
So maybe the E5 is the way to go without additive

yeh jap petrol is usually 100 ron but i know some subarus and the likes are set up for 104 ron petrol , i'm not sure what the mr2 is set up for in japan, do a bit of searching and you might find out?? if its just 100 the the e5 might be good enough, personally i'd add octane booster just to be sure.

Off Topic(a bit) - the mr2 is a lovely car, any chance you can stick some pictures up?

gline

this is the car http://www.carzone.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=906816


I read online that the mr2 is setup for 98-100 RON.... can anyone here confirm?

gline

Found this

Fuel:
In Japan, unleaded fuel is either 98 or 100 RON, and this is what the MR2 Turbo was intended to run on. Some owners have been able to run their Turbos successfully on UK Unleaded (particularly 94+ models) which is only 95 RON, but if the engine knocks the ECU will retard the timing and so reduce the power output of the car. The earlier 90-94 turbos with the higher compression engines are more sensitive to fuel octane than the 94+ cars, and seem to require the use of 98 Octane Super Unleaded to avoid knocking.


from - http://www.btinternet.com/~netsurf/mr2t/mr2tfaq.html

Atomic Pineapple

sounds like e5 might do the job, there petrol is only claimed 99ron by them though its never been independently verified so i would use octane booster too if you can afford it.

guil

my cousin has a 90 jap mr2 turbo and has stock ecu and never any problems runnin it on normal unleaded

goodladdy

a cap full of pro boost to every tenner petrol would do no harm to it either!!

gline

What brand is pro boost???

Im using STP booster, but a whole bottle needs to be added to a tank of fuel so it is quite expensive.

Is pro boost made by silkloene?? this it? http://www.imotorcyclestore.com/products.cfm?cid=X10SILPRO&pt=L

stecleary

all toyota ecu wil retard and reset to run on irish fule! as for "boosters" its been proven that they can lower the ron rating! and iv been hearding a cap full for every tenner years now and how much has fule gone up in the last 5 years????

gline

stecleary wrote: »

all toyota ecu wil retard and reset to run on irish fule! as for "boosters" its been proven that they can lower the ron rating! and iv been hearding a cap full for every tenner years now and how much has fule gone up in the last 5 years????

when really pushing the car, i have noticed a slight difference with using octane booster as opposed to when i dont use it. It seems a bit more responsive at high revs, could be just in my head though, who knows

il have to get a performance ecu for the car to be at ease.

What is the cheapest ecu you can get that still provides decent performance.

The apexi ecu kit is about €800 on ebay, not too bad, but id say you need to add a good bit more on for installation and tuning/dyno testing

colly10

draffodx wrote: »

sounds like e5 might do the job, there petrol is only claimed 99ron by them though its never been independently verified so i would use octane booster too if you can afford it.

I think you would need to get it mapped anyway, as far as I know E5 is leaner than 95 so you would have to get it mapped to richen it up anyway. I don't understand though how it can be both leaner than 95 and still have a higher octane rating but maybe someone here can tell me how thats possible

gline wrote: »

Can anyone recommend an ecu or piggyback that is not too expensive, the apexi kits are like €1000+, i really only want to spend maybe €00 max (inc fitting)

I bought a delimiter for the car too, so that sorts that problem, it was cheap on ebay, I hope it is ok and not some cheap-ass mod that will fall apart in my hands

If you buy the Apexi from japan (RHDjapan) it will cost you around €530, if you get that then you can sell the delimiter cause the apexi delimits the car anyway. Also if you are modding the car (like fitting a midpipe and a few other bits) you'll need to get something like an apexi anyway cause chips arn't specific for your exact mods

gline

colly10 wrote: »

I think you would need to get it mapped anyway, as far as I know E5 is leaner than 95 so you would have to get it mapped to richen it up anyway. I don't understand though how it can be both leaner than 95 and still have a higher octane rating but maybe someone here can tell me how thats possible



If you buy the Apexi from japan (RHDjapan) it will cost you around €530, if you get that then you can sell the delimiter cause the apexi delimits the car anyway. Also if you are modding the car (like fitting a midpipe and a few other bits) you'll need to get something like an apexi anyway cause chips arn't specific for your exact mods

they dont even have the apexi on their site - http://www.rhdjapan.com/

colly10

gline wrote: »

they dont even have the apexi on their site - http://www.rhdjapan.com/

Here it is -
http://www.rhdjapan.com/jdm-low/New-A-PEXi-Power-FC-and-Commander-For-Many-Cars-9627

As said in the above though they are getting more and more scarse, they used to get them shipped quicked than nengun in the recent past though.
Checked the price - they've gone up to €640, a fairly nasty price hike but they're only going to get more expensive as Apexi are bankrupt

gline

Wow Gonna have to order one of them

colly10

gline wrote: »

Wow Gonna have to order one of them

Well providing the MR2 isn't on the discontinued list on that page. I don't know what engines in them so im not sure. There a good piece of kit anyway for monitering everything

gline

colly10 wrote: »

Well providing the MR2 isn't on the discontinued list on that page. I don't know what engines in them so im not sure. There a good piece of kit anyway for monitering everything

well that apexi is supposed to be compatible with my engine, its the 3s-gte engine and its an sw20 model

colly10

gline wrote: »

well that apexi is supposed to be compatible with my engine, its the 3s-gte engine and its an sw20 model

No, thats the list of discontinued models, when it says many cars it means they have PFC's for many models. So they don't have a PFC for the SW20 3SGTE

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