Fat People OverEating or genetic

rubadub

g'em wrote: »

The rise in obesity has been a 20th Century and beyond phenomenon. Can we really put 100 years' woth of change down to evolution?

Yes, too many people have a snobbish attitude to simple activity these days. I have mates thinking I am odd if I walk to the pub, "why not get a taxi", then they leave early since they have to go GAA training in the morning. People will pay good money for a gym membership, pay petrol to drive 2 miles to the gym, run 4miles on a treadmill and drive 2miles home again. Just run to the gym and back again! it is better than a treadmill too.

They will pay for cleaners, gardeners, delivery men etc, then fork out good money on a gym membership and only go in janurary. Schwarzenegger had some quote like "man was not designed to be sedentary, he was designed to run 40km a day and hunt wooly mammoth". While most lazy bastards won't even walk to the chipper to get their mammoth batter burger.

You don't see too many overweight wild animals out there, surely some poor animals should be afflicted with the same slow metabolisms or diseases.

g'em wrote: »

Still not a good enough reason to swallow it en masse though

I dunno, some of those bukkake ladies seem fit & healthy (don't look that up in work if you don't know what it means!)

bluewolf wrote: »

if she knew she had a slow metabolism then she'd just eat less

Or if you enjoy eating then speed up your metabolism. Thats what I did. This blaming slow metabolism is a cop out. If you sweat too much then you simply shower twice a day or more, you don't go round stinking saying "I have a fast sweating problem, nothing I can do". If you have a slow metabolism then speed it up, eat 6 meals a day, evenly spaced, have breakfast, lift weights. 3x 20-30min weight sessions a week will increase your muscle mass and speed up your metabolism. If you sweat too much you would spend more time showering every week than that.

It is faster to cycle around dublin these days, so not only do you get exercise you end up with more spare time & save a fortune, and have less stress sitting in jams all day.

rubadub

rubadub wrote: »

Yes, too many people have a snobbish attitude to simple activity these days. I have mates thinking I am odd if I walk to the pub, "why not get a taxi", then they leave early since they have to go GAA training in the morning. People will pay good money for a gym membership, pay petrol to drive 2 miles to the gym, run 4miles on a treadmill and drive 2miles home again. Just run to the gym and back again! it is better than a treadmill too.

That's what I always think... that and you get fresh air and actually feel like you're getting somewhere.

As for getting around dublin, don't get me started on people who get the bus from the quays up to the top of harcourt st. Or not even the quays, but SSG! Jaysus lads it's a 10-15min brisk walk, I wouldn't think twice about it and I hardly exercise...

Dudess

Ah if you're from a smaller city, the quays to Harcourt Street is a lifetime away

rubadub wrote: »

I dunno, some of those bukkake ladies seem fit & healthy

Such glowing skin, shiny hair and sparkling eyes...

Dudess

Dudess wrote: »

Ah if you're from a smaller city, the quays to Harcourt Street is a lifetime away

what other cities
You're right I suppose. The only other excuse I could think of was people being unwell, but it happens often enough.

Dudess

Well, say, Bachelor's Quay or Aston's Quay to Harcourt Street - fair enough. But the quays down by the Four Courts to Harcourt Street? That would be the equivalent, if you were in Cork, of walking from the top of Shandon to Turner's Cross! You just wouldn't do it!

On the flipside, getting a cab from Stephen's Green to Harcourt Street - :eek:
Do people really do that?!

Dudess

Dudess wrote: »

Well, say, Bachelor's Quay or Aston's Quay to Harcourt Street - fair enough. But the quays down by the Four Courts to Harcourt Street? That would be the equivalent, if you were in Cork, of walking from the top of Shandon to Turner's Cross! You just wouldn't do it!

I was talking the starting point of a load of buses on the er... something quay...
beside o'connell bridge.

On the flipside, getting a cab from Stephen's Green to Harcourt Street - :eek:
Do people really do that?!

That would make me cry

Dudess

bluewolf wrote: »

I was talking the starting point of a load of buses on the er... something quay...
beside o'connell bridge.

Bachelor's Quay or Eden Quay. Jeez, I'm not even the one from Dublin here!

Dudess

Dudess wrote: »

Bachelor's Quay or Eden Quay. Jeez, I'm not even the one from Dublin here!

I am well known for having no sense of direction or knowing street names

SimpleSam06

Wibbs wrote: »

In Ireland's case we have among the highest levels of coeliac disease in the world. The theory being that we got our starches from potatoes for enough time, that we became intolerant to the gluten in various grains.

Only a couple of hundred years (less maybe since grains were widely eaten both before and after the potato became prevalent), hardly enough time for significant genetic drift throughout the population.

Generally speaking, the food industry is big money, huge money. Given that, its almost impossible to pin down a proper diet what with everyone trying to sell their own pitch. You can throw study against study until the cows come home and are grilled, and not reach a decent conclusion. Eat a bit of everything, exercise a good bit daily, and put down the fork, chubby.

Wibbs

SimpleSam06 wrote: »

Only a couple of hundred years (less maybe since grains were widely eaten both before and after the potato became prevalent), hardly enough time for significant genetic drift throughout the population.

Not necessarily. Genetic change in particular with dietary changes can be quite rapid. Lactase is a good example and there are others. http://www.reuters.com/article/healthNews/idUSN1043228620071210?feedType=RSS&feedName=healthNews&rpc=22&sp=true

300 years would be enough for a population to experience gene change in at least some of that population.

Generally speaking, the food industry is big money, huge money. Given that, its almost impossible to pin down a proper diet what with everyone trying to sell their own pitch. You can throw study against study until the cows come home and are grilled, and not reach a decent conclusion.

Agreed. Especially with individual populations and the food they're used to. As I said earlier a food that would be healthy in one population may cause issues in another. Again lactase and gluten being obvious examples. You can't say milk is good for you to an Indian, or indeed that soya is good for a European yet people do.

Eat a bit of everything, exercise a good bit daily, and put down the fork, chubby.

Pretty much nails it.

Nevyn

I would think that certain genetics mean that people are prone to a certain build and shape but most people over eat due to emotional and phyc issues which they may have to face up to and get help for before they can Eat a bit of everything, exercise a good bit daily, and put down the fork.

Dudess

put down the fork, chubby.

Or alternatively: "tubby"

old boy

a specialist told me recently that i should only eat enough to pass through me