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Public authorities have been pursuing a line of social investigation, reconciliation and public subsidy for nigh on two decades. Despite a large degree of official support, Travellers are still in essence a culture of poverty and dependency. Even worse, they're attempting to redefine themselves on racial grounds in a nakedly transparent attempt to justify further expenditure on 'reverse discrimination'.
It's now time to pull the plug on mollycoddling economically inactive welfare dependents in this society of ours. And Travellers are as good a place as any to start.
So what is your opinion on Newstalk
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Fair point!So what is your opinion on Newstalk
Not very impressed generally. In slow, but almost irretrievable decline. Was well located to deliver an interesting, independent slant on Irish current affairs. Has unfortunately opted mostly for an infotainment approach.
NewsTalk is a massive lost opportunity for Irish broadcasting both for the dissemination of diverse, even iconoclastic views, and a counterweight to tiresome psuedo-PC conformism over at Montrose.
The only NewsTalk programme I listen to at all now is Shane Coleman on Sundays. The rest of the news/current affairs output is IMO dross.0 -
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Loafing Oaf wrote: »Do we know this for certain? It seems kind of perverse of the Broadcasting Authority to safeguard diversity in media by forcing the closure of the only talk-based alternative to R1.
obrien owning INM privately would mean weve less diversification as it'd pretty much mean if your a journo/broadcaster youve two options.
dennis o brien or pat rabbite (the state)
as tothe likeliehood of this? its rumour mill stuff fueled by the state of INM and dennys level of intrest in it (both finacially AND share wise) and the hardballing he's playing with the 8 banks involved.
i dont think we can actually talk too much about it least we be accused of trying to mess about with its shareprice.
BUT.
if the stuff the sunday business post/sunday times has been saying turns out to be true then obrien will own too much of the irish media and despite having FG in his pocket (IMO of course !
) he'll have to sell off something to satisify legislation that covers this.
that would put newstalk on the chopping block as today FM is too good to lose (and im not even sure he could keep that but at least its viable)0 -
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constitutionus wrote: »obrien owning INM privately would mean weve less diversification as it'd pretty much mean if your a journo/broadcaster youve two options.
dennis o brien or pat rabbite (the state)
as tothe likeliehood of this? its rumour mill stuff fueled by the state of INM and dennys level of intrest in it (both finacially AND share wise) and the hardballing he's playing with the 8 banks involved.
i dont think we can actually talk too much about it least we be accused of trying to mess about with its shareprice.
BUT.
if the stuff the sunday business post/sunday times has been saying turns out to be true then obrien will own too much of the irish media and despite having FG in his pocket (IMO of course ! ) he'll have to sell off something to satisify legislation that covers this.
that would put newstalk on the chopping block as today FM is too good to lose (and im not even sure he could keep that but at least its viable)
Well it seems DOB will soon have editorial control of INM's papers one way or another. (I wonder if the recent wall to wall Michael Lowry coverage in the Sindo has brought that day closer but sin sceal eile).
So if you force him to close/sell Newstalk, technically you will reduce the proportion of the media he controls, but that would only be because there's less media all-round. I can't see how anyone who genuinely cares about journalism could applaud the loss of Newstalk, even if they object to its editorial line.0 -
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well he's calling the shots there as it is right now.
just look what happend to sam smyth in TodayFM and the studious ignoring of it by the NUJ and near everyone in the Indo/Sindo .
fionnan sheehan went nuts on Vinnyb when he broached the subject with him and recently there was a big bru ha ha about editorial protocols in relation to reporting on lads like dennis after he won his defamination case.
the reality at INM is dennis o brien and demot desmond control the company as together they hold more than 50% of the voting stock that ever bothers to turn up at an AGM.
Next time you hear a story about INM conscrening "shareholders" , think that to get a feel on whats really going on
To be brutally honest though newstalk should be able to stand on its own twofeet. we dont owe them a job and if they cant cut it the national liscence should be given to someone who can.
thems the breaks in the private sector.
as to the state of journalism, we dont really DO that in this country. not when it matters, thats why ya had to look to every agency outside the state to learn the IMF were coming in.
so newstalk in its present state would be no loss really as we already got a pro gov media outlet in RTE.0 -
constitutionus wrote: »well he's calling the shots there as it is right now.
just look what happend to sam smyth in TodayFM and the studious ignoring of it by the NUJ and near everyone in the Indo/Sindo .
fionnan sheehan went nuts on Vinnyb when he broached the subject with him and recently there was a big bru ha ha about editorial protocols in relation to reporting on lads like dennis after he won his defamination case.
the reality at INM is dennis o brien and demot desmond control the company as together they hold more than 50% of the voting stock that ever bothers to turn up at an AGM.
Next time you hear a story about INM conscrening "shareholders" , think that to get a feel on whats really going on
To be brutally honest though newstalk should be able to stand on its own twofeet. we dont owe them a job and if they cant cut it the national liscence should be given to someone who can.
thems the breaks in the private sector.
as to the state of journalism, we dont really DO that in this country. not when it matters, thats why ya had to look to every agency outside the state to learn the IMF were coming in.
so newstalk in its present state would be no loss really as we already got a pro gov media outlet in RTE.
I don't believe O'Brien will have control over the Sindo until Anne Harris is ejected from the editor's chair. Although the tirade of DOB-bashing by the likes of McDowell that she presided over when she took over has subsided, IMO all the Lowry phone call stuff of the last few weeks has been a proxy attack on O'Brien and Fine Gael. Not that this matters because he will be running the show soon enough but I like to be accurate.:p
Re NT, political bias is irrelevant to most off the stuff I like i.e. sports, Moncrieff, History Show, Green Room. Even though a lot of it is pretty tinpot, I still have it one for large chunks of the day...0 -
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constitutionus wrote: »well shanes bro in law was an ex FF gov minister !
amazing when you scratch the surface just how embedded our media set is with the political.
i thought it was common knowledge that shane coleman was a strong FF man
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