Newstalk Megathread

Badabing

You must not listen to it the other 9 months of the year then on sundays? They have a live feed from five live covering English soccer for 3 hours.

Amz

Only on Sundays. RTE have live GAA almost 12 months of the year, they even cover live Allianz league games, even the "fans" don't bother their asses going to the games, so I can't imagine they get hgue listenership figures for them.

I usually have matches on Sundays. Nobody forces me, or anyone to listen to Newstalk, if they're covering Eircom League or Golf I switch off, or go make tea, same with Darts and Snooker I generally don't listen either. I wouldn't be bothered listening to it on any station though.

Also, how can you commend Today FM's live soccer coverage and then knock Newstalk? Both get the same live feed, only the arrangement is that Newstalk get one of the days and Today FM the other.

Badabing

My point being that if Newstalks weekend shows have any future they must pick up live events, Rte cover all sports on their shows and do it very well 12 months of the year, there is no point in Newstalk having so many ads if no one is listening because as you know revenue is bottom line for them. Re: Today fm you are wrong they have their own commentators at the matches and go around the grounds with their own peple at it, Newstalk just take the live feed and have no interaction with commentators etc.. Today fm covearage is far superior imo and also their live after 5 phone in show.

Amz

Again, RTE have huge revenue so can afford to cover that number of live events that only a handful of people will have any interest in. It's the same with their GAA television coverage.

Newstalk had all of the Leinster rugby games at one stage, but that's gone now since they went national, their Rugby World Cup coverage was brilliant, I'm not George Hook's biggest fan, but Hugh Cahill was great. When ITV and TV3 were boring people to tears with their commentary at least Newstalk kept it entertaining. It's just a pity that they obviously can't afford to have as much live coverage of sporting events.

RTE barely acknowledged the Irish cricket team prior to their trip to the World Cup, Jerry O'Sullivan had been talking about it prior to Ireland even qualifying for it and had excellent previews etc. before it.

Another example is when RTE roll out the likes of Marty "you've been tangoed" Morrissey and George bloody Hamilton to cover rugby games, they clearly have no idea what they're talking about and are an embarrassment. At least Newstalk tend not to put people covering events and sports that they have no interest in or knowledge about.

Again, this discussion is just going around in circles, I'm going to continue to choose Newstalk over RTE and especially Today FM for their sports coverage. You can listen to whoever you want, I obviously just have different expectations when it comes to sports programming.

Badabing

For every George Hamilton you have a Michael corcoran and for every jerry o' suillivan you have a Eoin mcdevitt so lets not go there, we obiously have different expections and thats fine you prefer cheap bad editing terrible presenters and so on, i prefer Today fm for their soccer coverage and Rte for their general coverage of all sports.

irish_bob

i love OFF THE BALL , the banter between the presenters is while smug in a thoroughly middle class way , is very witty none the less
its a refreshing change to listening to des cahill on rte

Dub13

One thing bothers me about people who stand in for Hook,it happened with David Norris last Friday and has happened a few times in the past.The last 30min of the Right Hook on Friday is always Sport,David Norris stud aside and let one of the Off the Ball lads stand in for the sports bit.Fair enough maybe he does not like sports or just does not feel comfortable doing it.

Its my opinion that if you cant do the full show you should not get the gig.Its kind of like a taxi driver getting out 80% into your trip and letting another driver take you the rest of the way.Its just not professional.

Ekels

Badabing wrote: »

For every George Hamilton you have a Michael corcoran and for every jerry o' suillivan you have a Eoin mcdevitt so lets not go there, we obiously have different expections and thats fine you prefer cheap bad editing terrible presenters and so on, i prefer Today fm for their soccer coverage and Rte for their general coverage of all sports.

No need to be such an ass because someone verbally battered you.

More Music

You can please some people half the time.........................

Amz dosen't like it when RTE use commentators for rugby who don't know their stuff. Dub13 doesn't like it when Newstalk take off David Norris for sport and use somebody from OTB who knows his stuff.

Quote: ....Its kind of like a taxi driver getting out 80% into your trip and letting another driver take you the rest of the way.Its just not professional.

Or maybe like the anesthetist doing their bit and the surgeon doing the rest! That's not unprefessional.

Ekels

More Music wrote: »

You can please some people half the time.........................

Amz dosen't like it when RTE use commentators for rugby who don't know their stuff. Dub13 doesn't like it when Newstalk take off David Norris for sport and use somebody from OTB who knows his stuff.

Quote: ....Its kind of like a taxi driver getting out 80% into your trip and letting another driver take you the rest of the way.Its just not professional.

Or maybe like the anesthetist doing their bit and the surgeon doing the rest! That's not unprefessional.

I assume you're referring to Norris as an anesthetist? Well, he puts me right to sleep!

HAR, HAR

More Music

LOL!

themont85

Have to say I respect a guy like Jerry O'Sullivan, 4 hours locked up alone with no sports rights for 3 months, the occasional guests, heaps of texters and reading out the famous 'texts cost 30c about 100 times' too its a wonder he doesn't go mad. One thing I dont get about Newstalk with no Championship GAA is the whole score flash rights. They can't cover from the stadium the scores, Today FM have those rights. But both are now owned by Dennis O'Brien, what use is it having TFM holding these rights. It would make sense for it to be on NT, I mean 4 hours on the Weekend for sport, TFM doesn't have that. They are further crippling NT's sports coverage at the weekends with no logic in my mind. Is there a requirment for TFM to cover sports like there is news? I mean if not, I can envisage the Sat footy and those other things moving to NT at some stage. Not to mention that one day O'Brien will probly seek to move The last word to NT, pointless competition at the moment for him.

I'm a sports nut tbh and i listen to quite a lot of sports radio from both the States and the UK too. ESPN radio, talksport and 5live go down the road of heavy banter between the hosts like OTB(though OTB is mild compared to some of the ESPN). A number of reasons I reckon; the listeners to these shows are usually very into sport-if you have a 3hr sports prog on you like it a lot, therefore the presenters don't have to really fill the listeners in like a general news show with a bit of sports like the last word. A previous poster said that they preferred the final hour of The Last Word, fair enough but that really fills a different function-its in a general show so has to be broader and get to the point. Also hosting a 3 hour radio show with a lot of guys(majority in the sports media), banter comes easy rather than TLW where its within more serious content and that aint gonna happen.

Badabing

Ekels wrote: »

No need to be such an ass because someone verbally battered you.

Yeah right, im entitled to my opinion, i prefer Rte and Today fm end of story.

Ekels

Badabing wrote: »

Yeah right, im entitled to my opinion, i prefer Rte and Today fm end of story.

No, it was the cheap jibe at Newstalk that you decided to lob into the comment that was plain silly. It was just because you knew that you couldn't form an articulate response to Amz.

Badabing

Ekels wrote: »

No, it was the cheap jibe at Newstalk that you decided to lob into the comment that was plain silly. It was just because you knew that you couldn't form an articulate response to Amz.

Thats your opinon, amz likes newstalk and that paticular show i respect that, i think the show is badly edidited and i don't rate the presenter thats my opinion. What's a cheap jibe to you? Is slagging marty morrissey?

White Horse

Poochie05 wrote: »

I'm not sure how long Claire McKeown has been on or if it's permanent but it's been for at least a month. I used to enjoy Roisin Ingle but switch off instantly when I hear her prattling on about nothing.

I can't understand a word she says. I'm all for having people with storng regional accents on the radio, but McKeown needs subtitles.

stepinnman

Poochie05 wrote: »

I'm not sure how long Claire McKeown has been on or if it's permanent but it's been for at least a month. I used to enjoy Roisin Ingle but switch off instantly when I hear her prattling on about nothing.

I couldn't agree more - I've been a huge fan of Newstalk from day one and whilst the Roisin Ingle-hosted "Sunday Edition", or whatever it's called didn't particularly appeal to my sensibilities (not being a woman or a gay man) it certainly fulfilled it's "light and fluffy" remit and was utterly inoffensive. The kind of thing you could have on in the background in the morning.

Since Claire McKeown has taken over it is actually unlistenable too. Were Roisin Ingle had a genuine, likeable personality, McKeown has a permanent faux-smile plastered across her face (I imagine - it being Radio!). She never seems to have any genuine feel for any of the "stories", and I use that word lightly. Whilst tales of flavoured body wax and designer pooches aren't exactly hard-hitting there is a way of handling them that, while accepting their vapidity still manages to inform and entertain the listener.

Whilst I'm on a rant does anybody else think that Eamon Keane is the least hard-hitting "hard-hitting Journalist" there has ever been. The fact that he has to constantly remind himself just how tough-talking he is should be evidence enough! I find him completely obnoxious and self-serving and cannot listen to him at all!

LordSutch

Curious, now that Claire is on her summer hol's I am beginning to enjoy the 'Breakfast Show' :rolleyes:

mike65

stepinnman wrote: »

Whilst I'm on a rant does anybody else think that Eamon Keane is the least hard-hitting "hard-hitting Journalist" there has ever been. The fact that he has to constantly remind himself just how tough-talking he is should be evidence enough! I find him completely obnoxious and self-serving and cannot listen to him at all!

click :pac:

Mike.

Dub13

ArthurF wrote: »

Curious, now that Claire is on her summer hol's I am beginning to enjoy the 'Breakfast Show' :rolleyes:

Yes I agree,It seems a lot more balanced and not as rushed.The business guy (cant remember his name) is not bad.

Ekels

ArthurF wrote: »

Curious, now that Claire is on her summer hol's I am beginning to enjoy the 'Breakfast Show' :rolleyes:

I'm finding that lad that usually does the business to be very good.

Badabing

Whilst I'm on a rant does anybody else think that Eamon Keane is the least hard-hitting "hard-hitting Journalist" there has ever been. The fact that he has to constantly remind himself just how tough-talking he is should be evidence enough! I find him completely obnoxious and self-serving and cannot listen to him at all![/QUOTE]

100% agree.

mike65

Good lord, anyone catch the promo for Orla Barrys Life?

It starts with 10 seconds of demonic cackling which would be appropriate if you are the bad ghost in a Scooby-Doo adventure, then "life with Orla Barry 11 am".



:pac:

Mike.

cuckoo

Ekels wrote: »

I'm finding that lad that usually does the business to be very good.

Me too. He's kind of laid back, so it's not too stress-y first thing in the morning - but he has a grasp of what's going on.

Dub13

cuckoo wrote: »

Me too. He's kind of laid back, so it's not too stress-y first thing in the morning - but he has a grasp of what's going on.

Yes and he is not afraid to ask the hard questions when required.Also he can jump from side to side when doing an interview,I never know which side he agrees with.This is a good think in a presenter,when Claire is there you always get a feel for which side she agrees with.

SprostonGreen

I listen to the Breakfast show, by and large I think its grand. It annoyed me today however when the gave airtime to promote Cian fcuking Egan and his new girl band.

Firetrap

Dub13 wrote: »

Yes and he is not afraid to ask the hard questions when required.Also he can jump from side to side when doing an interview,I never know which side he agrees with.This is a good think in a presenter,when Claire is there you always get a feel for which side she agrees with.

Agreed. Claire Byrne should stay on her hollyers and never come back. I appreciate that Newstalk are trying to have their breakfast show less stuffy than Morning Ireland (not a bad thing) but we really don't need to know what she thinks about every topic that comes up.

mike65

We're not the only ones

http://www.politics.ie/viewtopic.php?f=164&t=39142&st=0&sk=t&sd=a

Mike.

GhostInTheRuins

Hahaha, brilliant

johnf&#225 wrote: »

It is becoming an embryonic 24/7 version of the Adrian Kennedy Phone Show

mike65

Anyone listeing to Your Call (not with Brenda Power) the guy who is filling in is desperatly trying to engineer some sort of controversy about "dem foreigners taking our dole money" and is singularly failing to induce any cretins into calling. Everyone is being reasonable and clearly this is not whats required. I'll listen for a bit more and see if anyone bits.

Mike.

Dub13

Newstalk is fast becoming the Sky News of radio.

Firetrap

It's particularly poor this week. Lots of stand-in presenters who aren't that good.

Radio Mad.

mike65 wrote: »

Anyone listeing to Your Call (not with Brenda Power) the guy who is filling in is desperatly trying to engineer some sort of controversy about "dem foreigners taking our dole money" and is singularly failing to induce any cretins into calling. Everyone is being reasonable and clearly this is not whats required. I'll listen for a bit more and see if anyone bits.Mike.

I believe the guy filling in was head of news John Keogh. He used to work for Sky News Ireland.

Dub13 wrote: »

Newstalk is fast becoming the Sky News of radio.

Michael G

Dub13 wrote: »

In fairness to NewsTalk Talking History is one of the best shows on Radio.

I used to enjoy it. I'm often driving at that time on a Sunday evening. The radio in my new car has no Long Wave so I can't get Radio 4 (which would always be my first choice) so Talking History is the only thing on.

But I find lately I keep turning it off and shoving in a CD or plugging in the MP3 player. It's like an Irish Times history programme. Geoghegan in particular is so bloody smug. Americans (the Republicans, not the nice ones you could invite to dinner), the British (the Conservatives, ditto), Catholics — any position associated with them is not so much openly ridiculed, which would at least be honest, but is referred to in a special sniggering tone which conveys the fact that people like us know better. The one standing in for him for August isn't quite so bad in the smugness stakes but is a bit shaky on the English language (this evening I heard "historians like you and I").

On the whole, a good idea but with the wrong people.

Stephen

I think old Hookie is getting browned off with having to pimp the text messages. He was rattling off one of the usual utterly retarded text competition questions yesterday and followed it up with an announcement that the question was clearly thought up by a Ph.D with an IQ of 187

mike65

The breakfast show is worse than ever, "would you buy as used car from Wayne Rooney, text yes or no. Texts cost 30c". That was yesterday

Mike.

Firetrap

The text pimping is irritating alright. Is it written into the presenters' contracts that they have to say "text in 53106 at a cost of 30c" ever 3 minutes or so? It's especially bad in the morning. It sounds like the presenters are chatting in the way people do in the pub, next thing one of them wonders why do spiders have eight legs or something and then you hear the 53106 @30c - again!

Dub13

Does anybody else think it was inappropriate to have a reporter at the Ronnie Drew funeral today..?

Radio Mad.

Dub13 wrote: »

Does anybody else think it was inappropriate to have a reporter at the Ronnie Drew funeral today..?

No. It would have been highly inappropriate not to send one.Why do you ask?

giftgrub

Originally Posted by Dub13
Does anybody else think it was inappropriate to have a reporter at the Ronnie Drew funeral today..?

Everyone had a reporter there

TV3 RTE TodayFM Fm104, 98, there were loads of newspaper hacks and snappers as well

FlutterinBantam

All the auld clapped out flappers and luvvies would have been there.

Sells papers.

MarinoMark

run_Forrest_run wrote: »

sorry if this has been discussed already but I've had it with Newstalk...they have way too many adverts or they take too many ad breaks.
I know they are a commercial station but so is TodayFM which does not have as many breaks.
Also while I'm here, I'm fed up listening to Claire Byrne practically begging people to text them so they can make more money from the 30cent texts arrrrggg!

right, time for Pat Kenny
<rant over>

Give her one though !!

Dub13

Radio Mad. wrote: »

No. It would have been highly inappropriate not to send one.Why do you ask?

I just think its the mans funeral give his family and friends some space to grieve,having reporters clawl all over the church is very tabloid like IMO.

Maybe its just me but I don't care what celebs were there.

FlutterinBantam

celebs!!!

see post 342.

mike65

Bump (hey this was on page 2, we can't have that!)

Eamon Keane now on for two hours. At about 12.20 he was lining up a piece on the approaching hurricane in New Orleans, the break came and went and he went to a piece on the M50.

Mike

mike65

AGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

Eamon kerane is just doing my head in - he is obsessing about some makey-uppy phrase
a minister used in passing and now thinks he is being clever by attempting to play dumb and inviting use to text at 30c to disconstruct the said utterance.

FcUK OFF EAMMO!

Mike.

humberklog

mike65 wrote: »

AGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

Eamon kerane is just doing my head in - he is obsessing about some makey-uppy phrase
a minister used in passing and now thinks he is being clever by attempting to play dumb and inviting use to text at 30c to disconstruct the said utterance.

FcUK OFF EAMMO!

Mike.

"Roll It Back! 10 secounds back!!That's it!! Did you hear it!! You heard it hear FIRST!!"
What's he gonna say "I hear Bi-lateral(something or other)before it was famous"?

brettmirl

mike65 wrote: »

AGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

Eamon kerane is just doing my head in - he is obsessing about some makey-uppy phrase
a minister used in passing and now thinks he is being clever by attempting to play dumb and inviting use to text at 30c to disconstruct the said utterance.

FcUK OFF EAMMO!

Mike.

I was listening and actually had to turn off as my blood pressure was rising. Jesus wept...give it a break Eamon.

Ronan Collins calmed me down somewhat.

brettmirl

Have they started doing "comedy" bits on the breakfast show?

I heard a woeful mock report yesterday about that big bang experiment where they pretend to interview Stephen Hawking.

Woeful rubbish altogether.

Dub13

mick_irl wrote: »

Have they started doing "comedy" bits on the breakfast show?

I heard a woeful mock report yesterday about that big bang experiment where they pretend to interview Stephen Hawking.

Woeful rubbish altogether.

Yes and its brutal,I think its one of the lads who used to be on Spin.