Recommend me a full watercooling setup for my PC

requiem1

L31mr0d wrote: »

well making XS happy is the last thing i'm looking to be doing. Whenever someone asks about how to silence their PC's its like "n00b!!! this is XS dude, fo sho, wez all ab00t the hurtz yo, if yo w4n7 silence head over to [H].. i.e. n00b centr4l... pwnd"

L31mr0d wrote: »

In regard to that xspc ddc pump top/w res, have you got any pictures of how that actually joins together?

if you're looking for how to mount the res top on the ddc pump here's a pdf of how to do it

L31mr0d wrote: »

Also, i'm looking for advice on tubing and barbs? Do I need to buy barbs seperate for every block or do they come with them? Also how do I work out if i'm going to need a joint for the tubing to stop kinks?

Also, from reading around the consensus seems to be to go with 1/2" barbs and use 3/8" tubing? Anyone done this before?

Yes most blocks you buy will have them as standard however always check, avoid xspc barbs and my personal favourites are ek's but dangerdens have never leaked on me and they have new barbs out

and for the sake of an extra $2 per foot get tygon. If you don't want to use hose clamps the consensus is 7/16" ID. I have used 3/8" with 1/2" barbs and the crappy pvc tubing tore at the bottom but I can't vouch for tygon cause that stuffs more reliable

awhir

go for 7/16" or 1/2" which ever you rather,7/16" is nice since you need no clamps but i think the fat look of 1/2" is cool

the res mounts to the DDc (u get rid of the orignal top of the DDc) UR best of just getting everything off Ek or buying from US (petra=massive savings)

The new DD barbs the "Fatboys" are supposed to be very nice and if you want even sexyer barbs you can get the compression fitting ones(bittpower and koolence make them)

requiem1

awhir wrote: »

go for 7/16" or 1/2" which ever you rather,7/16" is nice since you need no clamps but i think the fat look of 1/2" is cool

the res mounts to the DDc (u get rid of the orignal top of the DDc) UR best of just getting everything off Ek or buying from US (petra=massive savings)

The new DD barbs the "Fatboys" are supposed to be very nice and if you want even sexyer barbs you can get the compression fitting ones(bittpower and koolence make them)

now if we start entering compression barbs into the situation things could get complex given they don't fit on d-teks and he'd have to go for an EK supreme not to mention wall thickness and all that crap.

quick question awhir where did you get the hard drive mounting thing that connected to your rad? I need something like that for a scenario i'm in:)

awhir

Lol yes forgot about the D-teck there

amm its not mine was just showing it to fallcuss as an idea,Not sure try :

http://www.chilledpc.co.uk/
www.over-clock.co.uk

they should have something like that

requiem1

found something similar from aqua computer but only holds one hard drive i'll have to figure some other way of solving the problem, thanks dude:)

L31mr0d

Ok this thread is probably going on for a lot longer then it should :rolleyes:

I'm just about there and i'll be posting my build list for critiquing soon (hopefully today) i'm just wondering what people think about Mosfet cooling? Do you think its needed?

I was hoping to just install the Thermalright HR09 mosfet coolers on my 680i but from reading around they supposedly aren't compatible with it. Should I just leave the stock coolers there or get some mosfet blocks and add them to the loop?

nibble

Mosfet blocks are nothing but unnecessary restriction in a loop, I draw the line at NB watercooling. There really is no need to WC anything beyond CPU/GPU/NB, not to mention when you've got lots of blocks and tubing it can look fugly.

Just wanted to say something else; checking prices of petras vs specialtech/chilledpc they seem to be almost the same now and specialtech works out cheaper for laing pumps and all EK stuff, and of course Thermochill rads. Most UK stores sell Yate Loon's now too, which is another reason I wouldn't go with petra over them. The €/£ is so good I don't think I'll be buying from petras again anytime soon.

L31mr0d

nibble wrote: »

Mosfet blocks are nothing but unnecessary restriction in a loop, I draw the line at NB watercooling. There really is no need to WC anything beyond CPU/GPU/NB, not to mention when you've got lots of blocks and tubing it can look fugly.

Just wanted to say something else; checking prices of petras vs specialtech/chilledpc they seem to be almost the same now and specialtech works out cheaper for laing pumps and all EK stuff, and of course Thermochill rads. Most UK stores sell Yate Loon's now too, which is another reason I wouldn't go with petra over them. The €/£ is so good I don't think I'll be buying from petras again anytime soon.

ok but i'd like to put something extra on the MOSFETs. It's a real nutshot that Thermalright doesn't support the evga 680i... I mean it must be the #1 680i board sold. There is going to be very little air movement inside this case so anything that isn't being watercooled needs to at least have a heatsink on it. I've already got some heatsink for the RAM.

Also, the problem i'm having trying to finalize my order is that a lot of these watercooling stores have very little stock. I mean chilledpc is a joke.

Apart from these stores is there any other ones I should be looking at?

specialtech
aqua-pcs
chilledpcs
petratechshop

awhir

www.over-clock.com ,

requiem1

nibble wrote: »

Most UK stores sell Yate Loon's now too, which is another reason I wouldn't go with petra over them. The €/£ is so good I don't think I'll be buying from petras again anytime soon.

Petras yate loons are different and tend to work better with radiators

nibble

requiem1 wrote: »

Petras yate loons are different and tend to work better with radiators

Hmm, I think chilledpc have the curved blade yates but I'm not too sure though.. The hooha on XS about this a while back was about petras vs some other US store.

L31mr0d

confused about NB/SB blocks.

Ok i'm trying to find a block for the NB and SB for my 680i

Can a block that is used on the NB also be used on the SB? I can't seem to find any evga 680i blocks that specifically say they are for the SB.

i.e. can this block be used on both the SB and NB?

http://www.aqua-pcs.co.uk/ek-nb-evga-680i---clear-770-p.asp

awhir

ur gona need this:http://ekwaterblocks.com/shop/product_info.php?cPath=21_32&products_id=148

L31mr0d

Ok this is how my 2 loops are looking so far.

I need some advice now in regards to clips, coolants and where to get deionized water? All advice appreciated. Please C&C my build also.

LOOP 1

CPU Block D-Tek Fuzion CPU Block
Mosfet Block MIPS MCH146 Mosfet 1
Mosfet Block MIPS MCH147 Mosfet 2
NB Block EK-NB EVGA 680i
Res XSPC Dual 750 Bay Res/Pump
Rad ThermoChill PA120.2 Radiator
Pump XSPC Dual 750 Bay Res/Pump
Tubing XSPC 3/8" ID Flexible tubing


LOOP 2

GFX Blocks EK-FC8800 GTX x 2
SB Block EK-NF4 rev 1.1
Res EK-Multioption RES 150 v2
Rad ThermoChill PA120.3 Radiator
Pump 12v Laing D5 Vario
Tubing XSPC 3/8" ID Flexible tubing

awhir

Ok i would get rid of the pump in loop one as you will need a good pump there as there will be a good bit of restriction due to the 2 mosfets maby a 2nd D5 or a DDC.

why not just get 2 DDc 3.2's ?there small ,powerfull and look sexy.

go for Masterkleer tubing ment to be the best after tygon.

L31mr0d

hmm... actually i've had a night to think about it and i'm going to scrap the mosfet blocks (I can't find any definitive proof that they are actually needed), also I think i'll take your advice, should the pump fail in the res it will be a headache to replace. I do like the idea of a bay res just for convenience of refilling. Here is what the new loops look like.

LOOP 1

CPU Block D-Tek Fuzion CPU Block
NB Block EK-NB EVGA 680i
Res ???
Rad ThermoChill PA120.2 Radiator
Pump ???
Tubing XSPC 3/8" ID Flexible tubing


LOOP 2

GFX Blocks EK-FC8800 GTX x 2
SB Block EK-NF4 rev 1.1
Res EK-Multioption RES 150 v2
Rad ThermoChill PA120.3 Radiator
Pump 12v Laing D5 Vario
Tubing XSPC 3/8" ID Flexible tubing

For the pump, i'm looking to hopefully get my whole order from aqua-pcs.co.uk. If i'm not getting the XSPC bay pump/res, which one of these should I replace the pump?

http://www.aqua-pcs.co.uk/pumps-137-c.asp

and which one to replace the res?

http://www.aqua-pcs.co.uk/tube-reservoirs-133-c.asp

Also, in regard to clips, will any of them do?

http://www.aqua-pcs.co.uk/tubing-clips-290-c.asp

L31mr0d

heres what I think the loops are going to look like



The question marks on the blue loop is where should I put the pump, the question marks on the red loop is where should I put the res?

awhir

you can mount the 2 ek res's in the 51/2" bays if you look around you will se it done

amm the ddc's they sell are the old ones ,so i would go for the D5.

why not build the same order on petras and see does it work out cheaper ? just use 50$ shippin as a reference.

nibble

awhir wrote: »

you can mount the 2 ek res's in the 51/2" bays if you look around you will se it done

amm the ddc's they sell are the old ones ,so i would go for the D5.

why not build the same order on petras and see does it work out cheaper ? just use 50$ shippin as a reference.

Nowhere sells the old DDC2's anymore, no matter what the specs say. You haven't been able to get them for like 9 months now.

Yep I'd say go side by side mounted from the drive bays for the res'. You could place both DDC's in the drive bays too, they should fit.

L31mr0d

Ok, this is going to be my loops... i've got to do some measuring but I think this will work well. It will also free up most of the 5" bays for my 4 HDDs, fan controller and DVD drive

In regard to tubing. If I get tubing with an ID of 3/8" will I need to also get horseclips when attaching it to the barbs?

LOOP 1

CPU Block D-Tek Fuzion CPU Block
NB Block EK-NB EVGA 680i
Res EK-Multioption RES 100 Rev2
Rad ThermoChill PA120.2 Radiator
Pump 12v Laing D5 Vario
Tubing ???

LOOP 2

GFX Blocks EK-FC8800 GTX x 2
SB Block EK-NF4 rev 1.1
Res EK-Multioption RES 100 Rev2
Rad ThermoChill PA120.3 Radiator
Pump 12v Laing D5 Vario
Tubing ???

requiem1

I thought this might help if you don't already have the reservoirs but you can get two reservoirs linked together from ek people find them handy for dual loops

awhir

if ur just putting 360 rad + psu down there you should have room for harddrives , or u could put the 2 pumps down there.

or why not put the 2 rads down there ?

L31mr0d

requiem1 wrote: »

I thought this might help if you don't already have the reservoirs but you can get two reservoirs linked together from ek people find them handy for dual loops

hey man, cheers for this, yeah it looks exactly like what I need. Going to do some reading up and see what other peoples experiences have been with it?

Just wondering how i'd refill the lower res?

Oh and Awhir, yeah once I get the case and parts i'll probably revise the build depending on where things fit. Putting the pumps in the lower section seems like a good idea.

For tubing, how much should I be looking at getting. Would 10ft be enough?

KamiKazi

why not have two triple rads back to back in the bottom of the case instead of one at the top of the case as well?

L31mr0d

KamiKazi wrote: »

why not have two triple rads back to back in the bottom of the case instead of one at the top of the case as well?

because 2 triple rads won't fit with the PSU installed

nibble

Don't go with that res because it is just a single res, you'll be mixing water from each loop and you end up defeating the purpose of a dual loop set-up. Two separate EK res' would fit in that case fine so it's not necessary.
10ft should do it, and go with masterkleer 7/16".

L31mr0d

nibble wrote: »

Don't go with that res because it is just a single res, you'll be mixing water from each loop and you end up defeating the purpose of a dual loop set-up. Two separate EK res' would fit in that case fine so it's not necessary.
10ft should do it, and go with masterkleer 7/16".

Yeah i've been asking around and this is the case. I thought it had the option for having 2 seperate chambers and fill points. But as it doesn't I think i'll be sticking to my original plan of 2 x 100ml EK res'

btw, where can I buy deionized water in ireland? Do chemists sell it?

requiem1

sorry about the late response but nibble already pointed out that its a single reservoir but you can use a single res in two loops, actually just read a thread about a guy using one, i'll find it for you a drop the link to you.

Actually got some stuff of petra today for my rebuild..i'll have to put a worklog together when i get done modding:D

EDIT: forgot to say you can fit a double and a triple in the bottom of the case ans get the psu in there

awhir

requiem1 wrote: »

sorry about the late response but nibble already pointed out that its a single reservoir but you can use a single res in two loops, actually just read a thread about a guy using one, i'll find it for you a drop the link to you.

Actually got some stuff of petra today for my rebuild..i'll have to put a worklog together when i get done modding:D

EDIT: forgot to say you can fit a double and a triple in the bottom of the case ans get the psu in there

but that defeats the point of having 2 loops .......

nibble

Most motor factors have it, and halfords sell it too I think. I got a good few litres here when I was buying some other stuff a while back http://www.cpconline.ie/