M50 upgrade - Phase II

M50 Traffic MGT

M50 Traffic MGT wrote: »

Tomorrow morning at 06:00 (Friday 6th November) the new slip from the M1 NB (M50 NB) to the M50 SB will open. This should speed up this slip as it is currently very tight. Once opened the slip to the lights will then be only one lane.

Also tomorrow morning the new freeflow slip from the M50 SB towards the city at the Ballymun Interchange will also open. And next Friday the slip from the city/Ballymun to the M50 SB will open

Due to adverse weather the permanent lining has not been done yet on the Ballymun slips. This is what is holding up the opening. Although it will not be a milestone, once opened, the right lane of the old slip will be closed allowing us work in the verge. It is hoped this lining work can be done tonight but it is down to the weather

channelsurfer

M50 Traffic MGT wrote: »

Due to adverse weather the permanent lining has not been done yet on the Ballymun slips. This is what is holding up the opening. Although it will not be a milestone, once opened, the right lane of the old slip will be closed allowing us work in the verge. It is hoped this lining work can be done tonight but it is down to the weather

is the speed limit still goign to be 60kph until the full road is open or when is the speed limit going to be raised at the blanch to airport exit? i see the signs for 100kph are up but covered up.. thanks

M50 Traffic MGT

As many of you may have seen, works at the weekend between Auburn Ave and the M50 on the N3 outbound were very successful and traffic was returned to normal at 10pm on Sunday night. There are daily closures of the left lane outbound until Friday when all three lanes will re-open from Auburn right through to Scott's Roundabout, where the original layout will return (lane 1 left only, lanes 2 & 3 straight through).

The next significant layout change on the N3 outbound will the removal of Scott's roundabout in favour of a signalised T junction. This will be in place for Monday 23rd November

M50 Traffic MGT

channelsurfer wrote: »

is the speed limit still goign to be 60kph until the full road is open or when is the speed limit going to be raised at the blanch to airport exit? i see the signs for 100kph are up but covered up.. thanks

During works the speed limit on the M50 from the toll plaza to the M1 Interchange NB & SB is 60 kmh. This will be removed once works are complete

ciaran75

thanks for the update m50

roll on the 23rd nov then

richardjjd

M50 Traffic MGT wrote: »

The next significant layout change on the N3 outbound will the removal of Scott's roundabout in favour of a signalised T junction. This will be in place for Monday 23rd November

Does this mean that traffic from Blanchardstown - M50 NB will have to turn right at the new junction to use the slip at the M50 roundabout (ie. will the current access road from Scotts roundabout to the M50 be closed?)

Redsoxfan

Tallaght to Leopardstown update please.

M50 Traffic MGT

Redsoxfan wrote: »

Tallaght to Leopardstown update please.

We are on schedule to have 3 lanes from Firhouse to Dundrum by Christmas, but weather will also have an impact on the stretch. Permanent lining is on-going in the areas where the third lane is completed

M50 Traffic MGT

richardjjd wrote: »

Does this mean that traffic from Blanchardstown - M50 NB will have to turn right at the new junction to use the slip at the M50 roundabout (ie. will the current access road from Scotts roundabout to the M50 be closed?)

Please find attached detailed layout of Scott's by operation freeflow

Redsoxfan

M50 Traffic MGT wrote: »

We are on schedule to have 3 lanes from Firhouse to Dundrum by Christmas, but weather will also have an impact on the stretch. Permanent lining is on-going in the areas where the third lane is completed

Thanks-but does this mean that Tallaght-Firhouse and Dundrum to Leopardstown will be finished before/after Firhouse-Dundrum?

M50 Traffic MGT

Redsoxfan wrote: »

Thanks-but does this mean that Tallaght-Firhouse and Dundrum to Leopardstown will be finished before/after Firhouse-Dundrum?

Once works are complete between Firhouse and Dundrum 3 lanes will also open between Dundrum and Sandyford. There will be no additional lanes between Leopardstown and Sandyford

rameire

M50 Traffic MGT wrote: »

Once works are complete between Firhouse and Dundrum 3 lanes will also open between Dundrum and Sandyford. There will be no additional lanes between Leopardstown and Sandyford

is sandyford and dundrum not the same exit.
or is leopardstown and sandyford not the same exit
or do you mean dundrum exit 13
sandyford exit 14
leopardstown exit 15

where as i would say

exit 13 is Dundrum and Sandyford
exit 14 is Leopardstown
exit 15 is not important

meaning there will be 3 running lanes until the exit of junction 14 then there will be 2 runnning lanes will continue along the m50 as currently is.

Tragedy

13 is Dundrum, 14 is Sandyford, 15 is Leopardstown/Carrickmines.

pc123

Hi M50 MGMT,

The road layout across the N3 flyover heading east has changed several times over the last few months. As a result, the markings are now really messed up. There are two distinct sets of conflicting road markings which is making things very confusing. Would be great if this could be cleaned up.

thx

Redsoxfan

M50 Traffic MGT wrote: »

Once works are complete between Firhouse and Dundrum 3 lanes will also open between Dundrum and Sandyford. There will be no additional lanes between Leopardstown and Sandyford

Apologies for the confusion-I was referring to Dundrum and Sandyford.

So what about Tallaght-Firhouse?

HydeRoad

Does the remit of M50 Management extend to that rotten, badly designed roundabout beyond the Beacon Hospital, accessing Junction 13?

The lanes on this roundabout must have been given to the office junior to design, if they weren't given to the cat. It is impossible to take up a correct position to drive around this roundabout, without getting cut up by every other car, who also think they are driving correctly. It is a safety nightmare. That is bad enough, but to take the third exit, necessitates stopping at three sets of lights every time. It is impossible to get a clean run around it. I can understand stopping once. Not three times. The net effect of this, is not only to frustrate drivers, but also to guarantee that there will constantly be three full lanes of traffic when the lights do turn green, all of which will immediately wander to left and right, unsure of which lane to be in, and with no clear markings telling how to position for whatever exit.

For God's sake, can the markings not be burned off completely, and a new set of clear and concise markings put in, so that there is no need to have to keep switching left and right as you drive around? You should be able to choose a lane and hold that lane all the way round. The traffic light sequence needs to be changed too. Who is responsible for this kind of childish and unacceptable nonsense?

chewed

HydeRoad wrote: »

Does the remit of M50 Management extend to that rotten, badly designed roundabout beyond the Beacon Hospital, accessing Junction 13?

The lanes on this roundabout must have been given to the office junior to design, if they weren't given to the cat. It is impossible to take up a correct position to drive around this roundabout, without getting cut up by every other car, who also think they are driving correctly. It is a safety nightmare. That is bad enough, but to take the third exit, necessitates stopping at three sets of lights every time. It is impossible to get a clean run around it. I can understand stopping once. Not three times. The net effect of this, is not only to frustrate drivers, but also to guarantee that there will constantly be three full lanes of traffic when the lights do turn green, all of which will immediately wander to left and right, unsure of which lane to be in, and with no clear markings telling how to position for whatever exit.

For God's sake, can the markings not be burned off completely, and a new set of clear and concise markings put in, so that there is no need to have to keep switching left and right as you drive around? You should be able to choose a lane and hold that lane all the way round. The traffic light sequence needs to be changed too. Who is responsible for this kind of childish and unacceptable nonsense?

You should try driving on the Swords/Malahide roundabout! It's a complete farce as well.

M50 Traffic MGT

pc123 wrote: »

Hi M50 MGMT,

The road layout across the N3 flyover heading east has changed several times over the last few months. As a result, the markings are now really messed up. There are two distinct sets of conflicting road markings which is making things very confusing. Would be great if this could be cleaned up.

thx

This area is a constant concern for us but unfortunately we are restricted with the noise we can make after 10pm. To remove these lines is noisy but we are working with the local residents to try form a compromise and we hope to do lane closures on Sat morning to remove the conflicting lines. These works will require the N3 to be reduced to one lane which will obviously cause major delays as it is such a busy route. Coupled with the two games in Croke Park this weekend it would be advisable to avoid this area if possible this weekend

M50 Traffic MGT

HydeRoad wrote: »

Does the remit of M50 Management extend to that rotten, badly designed roundabout beyond the Beacon Hospital, accessing Junction 13?

The lanes on this roundabout must have been given to the office junior to design, if they weren't given to the cat. It is impossible to take up a correct position to drive around this roundabout, without getting cut up by every other car, who also think they are driving correctly. It is a safety nightmare. That is bad enough, but to take the third exit, necessitates stopping at three sets of lights every time. It is impossible to get a clean run around it. I can understand stopping once. Not three times. The net effect of this, is not only to frustrate drivers, but also to guarantee that there will constantly be three full lanes of traffic when the lights do turn green, all of which will immediately wander to left and right, unsure of which lane to be in, and with no clear markings telling how to position for whatever exit.

For God's sake, can the markings not be burned off completely, and a new set of clear and concise markings put in, so that there is no need to have to keep switching left and right as you drive around? You should be able to choose a lane and hold that lane all the way round. The traffic light sequence needs to be changed too. Who is responsible for this kind of childish and unacceptable nonsense?

This is not part of our construction area and instead is under control of M50 Concession Ltd

testarossa40

Redsoxfan wrote: »

Apologies for the confusion-I was referring to Dundrum and Sandyford.

So what about Tallaght-Firhouse?

Also awaiting Tallaght-Firhouse s/b update please.

celticbest

M50 Traffic MGT wrote: »

The freeflow from the M1 SB to the M50 SB will partially open (one lane) on Thursday 12th November

Hi M50 Traffic MGT,

can you please confirm that the new freelow fly-over from the M1 SB to M50 SB is still due to partially open tomorrow as when driving by it this morning it still looked a long way off being ready.

cargo

celticbest wrote: »

Hi M50 Traffic MGT,

can you please confirm that the new freelow fly-over from the M1 SB to M50 SB is still due to partially open tomorrow as when driving by it this morning it still looked a long way off being ready.

Would say it's still a few days off. The have applied most of the wearing course (possibly just last night) and the barrier has been very much advanced on it but still needs sections to be finished.

That said they were working on the barrrier and safety rails this morning as I passed and there's not much more wearing course to go down, just from 3/4 way down the on-ramp to complete the tie-in. Probably only a nights work so you never know.

Can't wait to go up and over this. It's high!!!!!! Watch out for planes coming in to land in the Airport.

Irish and Proud

M50 Traffic MGT wrote: »

This area is a constant concern for us but unfortunately we are restricted with the noise we can make after 10pm. To remove these lines is noisy but we are working with the local residents to try form a compromise and we hope to do lane closures on Sat morning to remove the conflicting lines. These works will require the N3 to be reduced to one lane which will obviously cause major delays as it is such a busy route. Coupled with the two games in Croke Park this weekend it would be advisable to avoid this area if possible this weekend

...I'm sure the residents would survive for one night - which comes first: people's lives or the comfort of residents for one night?

Regards!

Irish and Proud

celticbest wrote: »

Hi M50 Traffic MGT,

can you please confirm that the new freelow fly-over from the M1 SB to M50 SB is still due to partially open tomorrow as when driving by it this morning it still looked a long way off being ready.

...saw it this morning and the surface seems more or less all down - if they are going to open just one lane, then I guess tempory markings will be used - there mightn't be too much to do in order to get the slip open then - would be great.

Regards!

dcr22B

Considering that the M1/M50 NB - M50SB slip was closed again last night (serious tailbacks it casued as well), the SB loop might be kept waiting perhaps?

AlekSmart

This area is a constant concern for us but unfortunately we are restricted with the noise we can make after 10pm. To remove these lines is noisy but we are working with the local residents to try form a compromise and we hope to do lane closures on Sat morning to remove the conflicting lines.

Top marks to M50TM for the posts here,something which other bodies corporate could do well to emulate !

What a pity that all of the Good stuff comes to a shuddering halt when the reality of the "Irish" way of doing stuff is revealed.

A major project,nay,a GIGANTIC project of National Importance such as the M50 Upgrade is should,once approved,proceed apace on a 24/7 basis until complete.
(Thats why such projects as the Madrid Metro were capable of being brough in on-time and budget)

Can none of thse professional objectors see the greater good principle at work in area`s such as the M50/M3 line removal work.
Sure it`s noisy,sure there will be some disruption (Nowhere near as earth shattering as is portrayed) BUT,does it not make sense to allow the workers to get-stuck-in and complete the tasks in the shortest possible time-frame ?

Every major domestic project which I can recall has had to proceed on a business-hours only model.
Luas.
The Port Tunnel.
Croke Park
The Dart Upgrade.
The O Connell Street upgrade.
on and on we go with the charade,probably best typified for me by the emptyness of the O Connell St site during long bright summers evenings,and then a sudden flurry of frenetic activity come the dark short days of October as slippage is attempted to be recovered.

As the country now struggles to come to terms with it`s new found poverty it`s time to sweep aside much of this restrictive oul nonsense.

If the project is worth doing,then do it right FIRST TIME and less of the flapping about that has become part of what we are......:(

M50 Mgmnt`s response to Hyde Rd`s point about that nutty half-engineered Junction 13 Roundabout does reveal another typically Irish failing.....every project requires an amount of responsible bodies or individuals just enough to ensure that NONE of them actually ARE responsible for whichever elements are problematic.....as is apparent in the Governance of the Country itself.

KevR

AlekSmart wrote: »

Every major domestic project which I can recall has had to proceed on a business-hours only model.
Luas.
The Port Tunnel.
Croke Park
The Dart Upgrade.
The O Connell Street upgrade.

In the last year, two sections of the Galway Ring Road were resurfaced.
One section was the Oranmore Bypass DC - here they completely shut it at night and put diversions in place. The diversions were a small nuisance and I'm sure the noise was annoying for local residents but they got the resurfacing done in a few nights work with minimal disruption to traffic.

The other section that was resurfaced was in the Newcastle/Westside area of the City. All work was done at day, none at night. A live traffic flow was kept on the road at all times but with lane closures. The local residents never had their sleep disrupted but the lane closures brought the City to its knees for 2 weeks almost. Delays during the day were ridiculous and effected local residents more than anyone.

(The Oranmore section is a longer section with 2 seperate carriageways and they got it done a lot quicker - go figure!)

If I was a local resident I would have preferred a complete closure at night. Might have disrupted my sleep but at least it wouldn't take as long and cause severe disruption to me when I was going about my business.

It may even make more financial sense to put up the most affected residents in a hotel for a night or two than almost grind the city to a halt for a week!

M50 Traffic MGT

celticbest wrote: »

Hi M50 Traffic MGT,

can you please confirm that the new freelow fly-over from the M1 SB to M50 SB is still due to partially open tomorrow as when driving by it this morning it still looked a long way off being ready.

This has now been pushed back to next Monday night

M50 Traffic MGT

As you may have seen in previous posts, the M50 SB at the N3 Interchange will be reduced to 2 lanes this Friday night. 3 lanes will run from Finglas but at the N3 off ramp, the left lane will be a dedicated off slip. Lanes 2 & 3 will continue under the N3 Interchange. This will be in place for 2 weeks. It is for storage of the beams for the next bridge at the N3 Interchange (The NB Off Ramp) and these beams are larger and longer than those used at the M1 Interchange. The longest span is 60m. As they are so big they have to be transported in sections and assembled on site, hence lane 1 closure. There is likely to be disruption early next week while people get used to the new layout