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M50 upgrade - Phase II

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    #1502
    inforfun
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 20,862 Mod ✭✭✭✭inforfun


    M50 Traffic MGT wrote: »
    I've attached a flyer in relation to the N3 interchange


    Looks like i am going to have lots of "fun" coming from Snugborough Road/Waterville and than having to cross 3 lanes to get to the city centre lane.


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    #1503
    jack presley
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    inforfun wrote: »
    Looks like i am going to have lots of "fun" coming from Snugborough Road/Waterville and than having to cross 3 lanes to get to the city centre lane.

    You think it's going to be bad in a car? That's the way the 38A goes, how much fun is it going to be watching a double decker bus do the same!


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    #1504
    runway16
    Registered Users Posts: 304 ✭✭runway16


    Ah Ok, I didnt realise that. Still, compae how M50 maintain the motorway and how CRG maintain their stretches. Much better. The M50 looks like a dogs breakfast. It badly needs a clean up.


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    #1505
    jack presley
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    I just drove past (outbound) so couldn't get a good look but I think they've put the signage in place for the final layout inbound, which of course has us in different lanes to what we're supposed to be on Tuesday. Will these be covered up over the weekend or are they just there to add to the fun on Tuesday morning?


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    #1506
    chinchin
    Registered Users Posts: 74 ✭✭chinchin


    On the N3 inbound this evening there were new temporary overhead lane designation signs on the last overpass bridge before Scotts, slight problem however the signs were set up for the new layout which won't be in place until next week!


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    #1507
    inforfun
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 20,862 Mod ✭✭✭✭inforfun


    jack presley wrote: »
    You think it's going to be bad in a car? That's the way the 38A goes, how much fun is it going to be watching a double decker bus do the same!


    Didnt really think of that. Where i am from the bus drivers wouldnt give a ****e. Indicator on and there you go.
    Believe it or not, most bus drivers here surprise me the way they behave on the road. And i mean that in a positive way.


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    #1508
    M50 Traffic MGT
    Closed Accounts Posts: 127 ✭✭M50 Traffic MGT


    jack presley wrote: »
    You think it's going to be bad in a car? That's the way the 38A goes, how much fun is it going to be watching a double decker bus do the same!

    We have been in consultation with Dublin Bus and depending on how heavy the traffic is, the citybound routes have the option of using lane 1 and going the old way or using lane 3 and using the new freeflow to Auburn.

    Also, on the temporary signage on the inbound, this has been changed and reflects the current layout. It will be changed again on Monday night to hopefully get motorists in the correct lanes before Snugborough and avoid weaving. Traffic from Snugborough can continue in lane 1 and use the blue route to all destinations


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    #1509
    gazzer
    Registered Users Posts: 4,049 ✭✭✭gazzer


    With the new layout will it still mean that cars will have to stop at the lights on Auburn Ave or will there be freeflowing traffic all the way to the lights just after the Halfway House?


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    #1510
    ongarboy
    Registered Users Posts: 5,201 ✭✭✭ongarboy


    jack presley wrote: »
    There is going to be carnage here. Irish people won't grasp the concept of getting in the left lane to go right, the middle lane to go left and the right hand lane to go straight.

    in fairness, this type of "turn left to go right type" model is already in place on the new inbound N4 and N7 interchanges and I don't recall hearing any issues. Sure, there might be a few familiarity issues for the first time but I'd say motorists will get used to it quickly.


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    #1511
    pc123
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12 ✭pc123


    M50 Traffic MGT wrote: »
    The green time currenty given to the off ramps will be greatly increased from Tuesday as all inbound traffic will not use the roundabout.

    Also, I've attached the revised flyer

    Hi M50 - sorry confused by this - are you guys talking about the roundabout at the M50/N3 interchange? In the new arrangement from tuesday, the inbound and N3 to M50 southbound will still use that roundabout. If anything - the traffic on this roundabout will be worse because of Blanch traffic.

    thanks!!


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    #1512
    jack presley
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    The big problem on Tuesday's going to be if there are delays at the Auburn Avenue traffic lights that cause a backup on the N3 inbound lane, people are going to drive in the empty M50 Northbound and M50 Southbound/Blanchardstown lanes and then expect to be let in at the last minute


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    #1513
    M50 Traffic MGT
    Closed Accounts Posts: 127 ✭✭M50 Traffic MGT


    jack presley wrote: »
    The big problem on Tuesday's going to be if there are delays at the Auburn Avenue traffic lights that cause a backup on the N3 inbound lane, people are going to drive in the empty M50 Northbound and M50 Southbound/Blanchardstown lanes and then expect to be let in at the last minute

    Auburn Ave Roundabout is currently being wired up by Serco and will be fully opened by 4pm. This will be 4 lanes inbound - the current 2 from the rotary and an additional 2 from the scheme being opened in the morning. The main roundabout will have all the Blanchardstown traffic on it tomorrow but it will loose all citybound traffic from the N3, thus giving the southbound off ramp extra green time


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    #1514
    jack presley
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    M50 Traffic MGT wrote: »
    Auburn Ave Roundabout is currently being wired up by Serco and will be fully opened by 4pm.


    How's that 4pm opening working out for you? Absolute chaos at the moment coming down Auburn Avenue.


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    #1515
    pc123
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12 ✭pc123


    Heard on the radio this morning that the new layout using the gym bridge was postponed. Looking across the road this morning I can see the road is still covered in junk (piping etc). What went wrong?


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    #1516
    20goto10
    Registered Users Posts: 1,210 ✭✭✭20goto10


    Can someone clarify the purpose of the hard shoulder on the M50? It's barely wide enough to fit a car never mind to open your door and get out and forget about parking a van or truck. The frustrating thing is there is ample room to put a decent size hard shoulder in. Am I missing it's intended purpose? Cause it certainly isn't for emergency parking.


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    #1517
    celticbest
    Registered Users Posts: 2,092 ✭✭✭celticbest


    pc123 wrote: »
    Heard on the radio this morning that the new layout using the gym bridge was postponed. Looking across the road this morning I can see the road is still covered in junk (piping etc). What went wrong?

    It's an absolute joke, this is not the first time that they have failed to open a junction on a specified day, I remember the opening of the M1/M50 Freeflow was put back a few times

    Surely they would have know yesterday that it was not going to open this morning and let people know..........only in Ireland.:mad:


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    #1518
    Mimikyu
    Registered Users Posts: 18,918 ✭✭✭✭Mimikyu


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    #1519
    whosedaddy?
    Registered Users Posts: 925 ✭✭✭whosedaddy?


    M50.ie has update saying
    N3 New Traffic Layout

    Please be advised, the change in Traffic Layout at the N3 Interchange has been postponed until further notice. M50 Concession Limited will give advance notice in due course.


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    #1520
    Turbulent Bill
    Registered Users Posts: 1,629 ✭✭✭Turbulent Bill


    celticbest wrote: »
    Surely they would have know yesterday that it was not going to open this morning and let people know..........only in Ireland.:mad:

    The really stupid thing was that flyers were being given out yesterday morning at the Blanchardstown junction (opposite the hospital) saying that the new layout was starting today! What happened between then and now?:mad:

    I joined the N3 inbound at the Waterville slip this morning, sticking to the left lane for M50 southbound, only to find the old signage and generic messages on the multi-function displays.

    Sick to the teeth of the sheer incompetence and lack of care shown during the upgrade.


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    #1521
    jack presley
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    Apparently we're back on for tomorrow now but don't hold your breath.....

    On a positive note, it looks like you can turn right from River Road onto the N3 outbound at Auburn Avenue again.


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    #1522
    MessyRedBlue
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13 ✭MessyRedBlue


    From AA Roadwatchwebsite:
    * Road conditions are wet so drive with extra care. *MAIN TRAFFIC* * A major change in traffic layout will go ahead for 6am Wednesday, 14th July on the N3/Navan Rd inbound approaching the M50. Overnight lane restrictions will be in operation to facilitate the change of layout from 10pm until 6am. * No traffic delays reported for the M50 in either direction. * No delays reported for Dublin City centre.


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    #1523
    Redsoxfan
    Registered Users Posts: 5,325 ✭✭✭Redsoxfan


    Looks like there will be a fixed camera going in just south of Firhouse on the northbound carriageway-noticed road markings on the road this evening.


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    #1524
    inforfun
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 20,862 Mod ✭✭✭✭inforfun


    jack presley wrote: »
    Apparently we're back on for tomorrow now but don't hold your breath.....

    On a positive note, it looks like you can turn right from River Road onto the N3 outbound at Auburn Avenue again.

    It is open indeed.
    But as i came from the opposite direction i can not really tell if things were working well or not.
    Certainly because i am around that place pretty early, around 7.15am.


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    #1525
    richardjjd
    Registered Users Posts: 524 ✭✭✭richardjjd


    Took the n3 inbound just after 8am. It worked very well - freeflow the whole way. Traffic for the M50N and S also moved very quickly. Inbound traffic on the Navan road, however, was backed up from Ashtown roundabout to a point before the "new" bridge - a ittle worse than usual (though it still cleared fairly quickly).


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    #1526
    inforfun
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 20,862 Mod ✭✭✭✭inforfun


    richardjjd wrote: »
    Inbound traffic on the Navan road, however, was backed up from Ashtown roundabout to a point before the "new" bridge - a ittle worse than usual (though it still cleared fairly quickly).

    That will always remain a problem as it is going from 2 lanes to 1 and everybody trying to squeeze in at the last moment.
    Thankfully i always go against the flow, in the morning direction Navan, afternoon direction city centre :D


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    #1527
    M50 Traffic MGT
    Closed Accounts Posts: 127 ✭✭M50 Traffic MGT


    The new freeflow from the N3 Inbound to Auburn Ave opened at 6:30am this morning. There were no delays during the morning peak but some motorists are still getting used to the new layout. Things should settle down in the next few days. The delay in opening on Tuesday was a last minute hitch with Iarnrod Eireann in relation to opening the new bridge but this was sorted out yesterday.

    Apologies for this scheme opening a day later than advertised but we had no option but to cancel on Monday evening, hence the short notice.

    Next phase will be opening the freeflow from the N3 Inbound to M50 SB and M50 SB Freeflow to N3 Outbound

    M50 Traffic Management


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    #1528
    celticbest
    Registered Users Posts: 2,092 ✭✭✭celticbest


    celticbest wrote: »
    MGT, will this allow for more green time for traffic coming from the M50S to N3 inbound, as the queue is getting worse day by day at this junction ?
    M50 Traffic MGT wrote: »
    The green time currenty given to the off ramps will be greatly increased from Tuesday as all inbound traffic will not use the roundabout.

    Also, I've attached the revised flyer
    M50 Traffic MGT wrote: »
    The new freeflow from the N3 Inbound to Auburn Ave opened at 6:30am this morning. There were no delays during the morning peak but some motorists are still getting used to the new layout. Things should settle down in the next few days. The delay in opening on Tuesday was a last minute hitch with Iarnrod Eireann in relation to opening the new bridge but this was sorted out yesterday.

    Apologies for this scheme opening a day later than advertised but we had no option but to cancel on Monday evening, hence the short notice.

    Hi M50MGT,

    Can you please confirm when the extra green time will be given to traffic exiting the M50SB @ Junction 6 now that both the M50NB & N3 inbound freeflow slips are open & as per above this should have happened.

    I used this Off Ramp this morning and the traffic was backed up the same as ever & there seemed to be no extra green time.


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    #1529
    cargo
    Registered Users Posts: 1,215 ✭✭✭cargo


    M50 Traffic MGT wrote: »
    The new freeflow from the N3 Inbound to Auburn Ave opened at 6:30am this morning. There were no delays during the morning peak but some motorists are still getting used to the new layout. Things should settle down in the next few days. The delay in opening on Tuesday was a last minute hitch with Iarnrod Eireann in relation to opening the new bridge but this was sorted out yesterday.

    Apologies for this scheme opening a day later than advertised but we had no option but to cancel on Monday evening, hence the short notice.

    Next phase will be opening the freeflow from the N3 Inbound to M50 SB and M50 SB Freeflow to N3 Outbound

    M50 Traffic Management


    Great stuff M50. Any idea how many weeks the next phases are away? I think you were hoping around 8 weeks for the inbound to M50SB freeflow. Is this about right?


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    #1530
    celticbest
    Registered Users Posts: 2,092 ✭✭✭celticbest


    M50 Traffic MGT wrote: »
    The new bridge from the N3 Inbound to the M50 SB will not be ready for another 8 weeks so in the meantime traffic wishing to access the M50 SB will have to leave the N3 at Scott's via the new off ramp for the hospital and use the new bridge at Total Fitness to get back onto the existing route. The new freeflow slip to the M50 SB will be opened in 8 weeks. This will be followed by the freeflow slip from the M50 SB to the N3 outbound
    cargo wrote: »
    Great stuff M50. Any idea how many weeks the next phases are away? I think you were hoping around 8 weeks for the inbound to M50SB freeflow. Is this about right?

    Original Post above by M50MGT was on the 01.07.2010, 2 weeks ago, therefore there are only 6 week left before the Junction is due to be fully opened (around 19.08.2010).

    Hopefully the 3 mainline lanes under junction 6 on the M50NB will also open on this date if not earlier to relieve the jam that occurs here during rush hour everyday.


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    #1531
    Davy
    Registered Users Posts: 19,340 CMod ✭✭✭✭Davy


    Signage was left in the median, but just turned around, so if your coming northbound after blanch, it looks like lane 3 and lane 4 are about to close.

    Ok if you have sense you will realise as the distance markings go from 200m upwards, but still it should have been removed, or folded and left on its side in the median.


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