Marcel Luske: Far and away the worst player I have ever seen.

corkie123

NickyOD wrote: »

Perhaps the title of the thread should be the "worst highly raited professional I've ever seen" Obviously I don't think he's THEE worst player.

As a professional who plays 6 handed TV table format very often I don't think it's acceptable for him not to understand ICM or equity which he clearly doesn't.

In his exit hand (5th place) in the final he open shoved over 10BBs with Q8o from the cut-off and everyone at the table had seen him do this with rags all week increasing the likelihood of a call. Payouts were 250K, 120K, 60K, 40K, 30K, 20K. If he is experimenting with his play then it's quite an expensive experiment. It's much more likely that he just doesn't know how to play this format.

Eddy Scharf is a player I have an enormous amount of respect for both as a gentleman and a player and it's sad to see that someone like him has to come 2nd or 3rd just to be invited back to play next year, when Hellmuth can play crap, come dead last in the league but still be guaranteed a seat next season and the reason for in his own words is "but I'm good for TV!" I would much rather watch an on-line qualifier who plays very well than watch a cartoonish fake like Luske or Hellmuth play like a donkey.

Also, I'm freelance. I don't work directly for anyone so I am free to voice my opinion here however I wish, the same as anyone else.

to be honest if wat u say is true then we should all play like donkeys as luske and hellmuth did because from wat they have done in poker it is very impressive indeed .
i know macel well and always found him to be nothing but a gent and always helpfull in anyway he could .i have played with him and found him to be one of the best in naming wat u are playing with .

now i have seen some of our home grown players making moves with ****e cards and there been called the best for doing the same .and u then call 2 world class players the worst for doing the same .
now mr o d when u ever win something big and then do it again u can come back and state your mine as we know even the donkeys can get lucky once but i think marcel and hellmuth have proven themselfs and dont need a small time player to mock them .

phantom_lord

ditpoker wrote: »

http://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/player.php?a=s&n=163

nicky when you have these results get back to me.

http://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/player.php?a=r&n=64159

http://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/player.php?a=r&n=453

HoLLLLLaments

the worm lol. sik nickname

Ste05

phantom_lord wrote: »

http://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/player.php?a=r&n=64159

Emmm, who's this donk, he's only won $34k... :rolleyes:

LuckyLloyd

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phantom_lord

yeah, i mean, what the hell is he doing telling the best player in the world to be quiet.

he's probably down about 50k in tournaments. fish imo.

LuckyLloyd

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Ste05

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

I hear our very own Gavin Kelly has never cashed in a single live tournament. Not one. And he calls himself a "pro".

pah!!

phantom_lord

plz to not be tapping the tank.

Goodluck2me

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

I hear our very own Gavin Kelly has never cashed in a single live tournament. Not one. And he calls himself a "pro".

chin up Gavin, you`re just running bad.

Russh

Wouldn't have bothered me arse reading this only it was recommended...:mad:
Played with him twice and both times I thought he was fairly decent...
(putting it mildly..lol...class)...Although what would I know...

I did find he was less than courteous to dealers....

Jaysus I may do some work.....

Flushdraw

Russh wrote: »

I did find he was less than courteous to dealers....

a la Joe Beevers..

Goodluck2me

Russh wrote: »

I did find he was less than courteous to dealers....

Flushdraw wrote: »

a la Joe Beevers..

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cooker3

Flushdraw wrote: »

a la Joe Beevers..

DOT DOT DOT

Flushdraw

At one stage..

Beevers was in seat 3 and i was in seat 4 and he wins a pot..The dealer pushes the chips towards him but doesnt quite make all the way across to him, so Beevers throws his cards between me and him and says "If you're gonna make me work, i'm gonna make you work"

hf4z6sqo7vjngi

Flushdraw wrote: »

At one stage..

Beevers was in seat 3 and i was in seat 4 and he wins a pot..The dealer pushes the chips towards him but doesnt quite make all the way across to him, so Beevers throws his cards between me and him and says "If you're gonna make me work, i'm gonna make you work"

Yeah what a ****ing tool i am gonna pwan him so bad on full tilt over the next few weeks lol

RedJoker

Marq wrote: »

lol donkaments.

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Goodluck2me

Flushdraw wrote: »

At one stage..

Beevers was in seat 3 and i was in seat 4 and he wins a pot..The dealer pushes the chips towards him but doesnt quite make all the way across to him, so Beevers throws his cards between me and him and says "If you're gonna make me work, i'm gonna make you work"

you shouldve seen the first hand i dealt with him... not arsed going into it but my initial reaction was ...this will be fun :rolleyes:

NickyOD

If he was really rude then someone should post about it on the mob forum.

Goodluck2me

NickyOD wrote: »

If he was really rude then someone should post about it on the mob forum.

I have no qualms about doing it. It came as a shock to me as I`ve now dealt to all four of them and Ram, Barney and Ross were all perfect gentlemen at the table. Its funny too how every dealer make the same remarks to me, and also it was weird how the others at the table made a point of thanking me as I left, as if to say "don`t mind him kid" or w/e.

Jesus Wept

Nothing elegant about that.

LuckyLloyd

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doke

Flushdraw wrote: »

At one stage..

Beevers was in seat 3 and i was in seat 4 and he wins a pot..The dealer pushes the chips towards him but doesnt quite make all the way across to him, so Beevers throws his cards between me and him and says "If you're gonna make me work, i'm gonna make you work"

I interpreted that as just banter, but I suppose one man's banter is another's obnoxiousness, which is one of the reasons I rarely if ever engage in banter when playing live. I've learned the hard way that my delivery is too deadpan for a lot of people, and I'm not really very funny at all at all.

If you read any of Joe's articles, you can see he has a very good but totally deadpan sense of humour.

hf4z6sqo7vjngi

I played with both Joe and Marcel and TBH they are fairly similiar in how they mistreat and talk down to dealers in particular Marcel was shocking with some of his table antics towards dealers.

Maybe it is some sort of ego thing

Goodluck2me

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

As an aside, Joe - I would always say "thanks" when a dealer left the table. So people saying that may not have meant it the way you prescribe it above.

Do you normally shake your head in a dont mind him sort of way, as well? Hard to describe I guess - dont want to get into it, but to put it this way, I got the point.

doke wrote: »

I interpreted that as just banter, but I suppose one man's banter is another's obnoxiousness, which is one of the reasons I rarely if ever engage in banter when playing live. I've learned the hard way that my delivery is too deadpan for a lot of people, and I'm not really very funny at all at all.

There is deadpan humour, which I can appreciate, and there is ignorance like "blatently being obtrusive and, what I call, questioning with intent.

Terrence Uninterested Sunblock wrote: »

I played with both Joe and Marcel and TBH they are fairly similiar in how they mistreat and talk down to dealers in particular Marcel was shocking with some of his table antics towards dealers.

Maybe it is some sort of ego thing

Marcel is by far and away the worst I have ever dealt to, Joe was just annoying and petty, Marcel was a proper twat.

ditpoker

goodluck2me wrote: »

Marcel was a proper twat.

QFT.

there's one fella worse... has played the last two EPT Dublins. english accent but is french/italian i think, wears a scarf ALL the time and looks like soap might be an after-thought...

dannydiamond

Terrence Uninterested Sunblock wrote: »

I played with both Joe and Marcel and TBH they are fairly similiar in how they mistreat and talk down to dealers in particular Marcel was shocking with some of his table antics towards dealers.

Maybe it is some sort of ego thing

This sounds very familiar to me.
I managed some of the "trendy" bars in Dublin a few years ago,these bars would attract a certain type of clientele,many of whom would have a very similar attitude towards barstaff as has been described towards dealers.
We called it the"do you know who I am?"syndrome.

mormank

doke wrote: »

I interpreted that as just banter, but I suppose one man's banter is another's obnoxiousness, which is one of the reasons I rarely if ever engage in banter when playing live. I've learned the hard way that my delivery is too deadpan for a lot of people, and I'm not really very funny at all at all.

If you read any of Joe's articles, you can see he has a very good but totally deadpan sense of humour.

i'm torn now about joe beevers cos if it was meant as banter i would like to deal to him but if not then what an ass!!!

kpnuts

Victoria Coren's latest column in The Guardian
A Remarkable Pot (14 April, 2008)
http://www.guardian.co.uk/theguardian/2008/apr/14/poker

But my book isn't Luske's. He stares at Kang. He thinks for a long time. He considers his trip threes. He stares at Kang some more. And then, for only 1,500 into a pot of 3,100, he folds his hand. This [Luske] is truly one of the greatest poker players of all time...

Victoria Coren v TheDiamond HU4ROLLZ?

NickyOD

kpnuts wrote: »

Victoria Coren's latest column in The Guardian
A Remarkable Pot (14 April, 2008)
http://www.guardian.co.uk/theguardian/2008/apr/14/poker

Victoria Coren v TheDiamond HU4ROLLZ?

So he folded the 8th nuts on the river after the action went bet, raise, re-raise.

Yeah he's amazing all right.

valor

LOL at that quote, sensationalist journalism ftw

Goodluck2me

kpnuts wrote: »

this is one of the truly great players

she might have been referring to Kang.

EZ fold imo.

YULETIRED

so is he far and away the worst or one of the best?

also who is the best poker journalist, Nickyod or Vicky?

Fatboydim

YULETIRED wrote: »

so is he far and away the worst or one of the best?

also who is the best poker journalist, Nickyod or Vicky?

In fairness Nicky is a poker journalist and therefore better than Vicky at it.

Vicky however might be the better columnist as that is what she does. [As well as playing poker, writing books and making porno films.]

YULETIRED

Fatboydim wrote: »

In fairness Nicky is a poker journalist and therefore better than Vicky at it.

Vicky however might be the better columnist as that is what she does. [As well as playing poker, writing books and making porno films.]

tomAto , tom@to linky to the porn?

El Stuntman

wait, Nicky is a pornstar now?

confusion sets in

NickyOD

El Stuntman wrote: »

wait, Nicky is a pornstar now?

confusion sets in

**** I just wet myself.

Ollieboy

NickyOD wrote: »

**** I just wet myself.

is that what you do in your movies,,,,,,

HoLLLLLaments

Ollieboy wrote: »

is that what you do in your movies,,,,,,

2guys1bucket?

Fatboydim

Mods lock please - why isn't there a vomit smiley?:eek:

mormank

Fatboydim wrote: »

Mods lock please - why isn't there a vomit smiley?:eek:

+1 nicky in porn....eeeeeewwww