Student Players Vote Please

Slash/ED

I'd go with b, but I don't mean take the p-ss, just allow people who were maybe a student last year or something to play. Show a bit of leanency but keep it mainly student based. If this is too hard to enforce (Grey areas generally are, I suppose) it might be safer just going with A.

carfax

Ace2007 wrote: »

This is turning into an absolute joke stephen - you called in the NSPC for the simple reason it was aimed towards students, no point letting everyone play - thats like saying paddypower will open up the ladies only event to everyone as it will create a bigger field and hence a bigger prize pool.

I don't think you've really been paying attention to what I have been saying.....When was it ever stated (by me) that this tournament is open to all. It is aimed towards students whether you choose option A or option B.....Seriously, how do you guys get to sit exams and get these pieces of paper that say you are intelligent and go on to get all these top jobs in these big companies when you have a really hard time listening to what is being said/ posted.

As far as calling this a joke what you you have done if you were in my shoes?, bearing in mind what I have typed below in response to Slash/ED.
_____________

I don't think a lot of organisers would have gone to the lengths that we have to ensure that player's have a say in the way the tournament is run so I hope you all can appreciate that.

Slash/ED wrote: »

I'd go with b, but I don't mean take the p-ss, just allow people who were maybe a student last year or something to play. Show a bit of leanency but keep it mainly student based. If this is too hard to enforce (Grey areas generally are, I suppose) it might be safer just going with A.

Thats how this whole problem arose.....People that just graduated, on a year out etc etc etc all emailing 12 times a day wondering if they can play or if a small exception could be made. To be honest I'm fairly fed up with this whole debacle as it is.....

Unless there is a huge change in the vote by tomorrow it will be Option A (even though right now, Option B does have the majority of student votes, as far as I can tell).....I was confident that we could organise the tournament to everyone's satisfaction with Option B but its just not worth all this back and forth with people that either can't seem to follow the guidelines that I would have liked to have set out or don't have confidence in our ability to do same.....We just have to have it black and white as per option A.

Ace2007

Aim advertising primarily at students but don't be too pernickerty.

stephen - if i had graduated from college last year - then i'm not a student -so obv i shouldn't be allowed play - u wonder how i have a bit of paper say i'm intelligent - ur the one thats callin it the NSPC but potential going to let lettting someone who is no longer a student take part.

DONK!

Ace2007 wrote: »

stephen - if i had graduated from college last year - then i'm not a student -so obv i shouldn't be allowed play - u wonder how i have a bit of paper say i'm intelligent - ur the one thats callin it the NSPC but potential going to let lettting someone who is no longer a student take part.

grow up.

TommyGunne

Aim advertising primarily at students but don't be too pernickerty.

Forget the chicken and the egg this all comes back to the age old argument of which race the transexual can run in.

carfax

TommyGunne wrote: »

Forget the chicken and the egg this all comes back to the age old argument of which race the transexual can run in.

lmfao

Ace2007

Aim advertising primarily at students but don't be too pernickerty.

DONK! wrote: »

grow up.

Correct me if i'm wrong, but stephen asked for people's opinions and i gave mine and backed it up with example of why etc. I know other boards.ie posters who have said to be that they also think it is a joke calling it the NSPC but letting people who are no longer students play.

Its not that hard to ask people to show a valid student card if they want to play.

DONK!

Ace2007 wrote: »

Correct me if i'm wrong, but stephen asked for people's opinions and i gave mine and backed it up with example of why etc. I know other boards.ie posters who have said to be that they also think it is a joke calling it the NSPC but letting people who are no longer students play.

Its not that hard to ask people to show a valid student card if they want to play.

in sorry.

But Stephen hasn't done anything yet.Hes put the idea out there and this poll will decide.and is it a joke to run the best possible tournament??? thats all hes trying to do

Ace2007

Aim advertising primarily at students but don't be too pernickerty.

He's got a sponsor - in which case - i assume he would have had to tell the sponor something - as in what type of tournament it would be? he's booked the hotel, he has got the flyers done up - so basically he's done nearly everything bar sign up the players. He's asking for people on boards to do a poll - but how is he to judge who is a student when doin the poll, for example - carfax(stephen why vote?), the clamper(stated in this thread he's not a student),marq(obv not a student), JimmytheGap and hugochavez appear to just have joined to do the poll, have all voted for option B - now i doubt stephen as much as i do knows wheater or not these 2 are students or not. Equally there are votes for option A which may not be from students.

DONK!

Ace2007 wrote: »

He's got a sponsor - in which case - i assume he would have had to tell the sponor something - as in what type of tournament it would be? he's booked the hotel, he has got the flyers done up - so basically he's done nearly everything bar sign up the players. He's asking for people on boards to do a poll - but how is he to judge who is a student when doin the poll, for example - carfax(stephen why vote?), the clamper(stated in this thread he's not a student),marq(obv not a student), JimmytheGap and hugochavez appear to just have joined to do the poll, have all voted for option B - now i doubt stephen as much as i do knows wheater or not these 2 are students or not. Equally there are votes for option A which may not be from students.

lets never fight again

earthworms

Listen if we go for option A its just not gonna be as good a tournament. A lot of students won't want to spend the €70 let alone accommodation costs etc. There are groups of people who are students/non students, and if the non students aren't going up the students mightn't bother.

It'll just end up being a load of Dublin students playing just like any other day of the week.

If option A is chosen, i might just stay in Galway and play a tournament here, i'll be getting close to the same value so why bother.

The tournament organiser is very obviously preferential to option B, and I def back that up. Last year it was run like option B and it was a great tournament, with a very young field. This tournament should be aimed at YOUNG poker players in Ireland. Fcuk what its called! Stephen named the thing and he wants option B, so forget that stupid reason!
There are a lot of people who are thinking like me, and if option A is chosen, these people probably won't bother going up.


(btw i'm a student)

The Clamper

if we end up being sued coz we differentiated between the different kind of students i.e. university v college v night course students, it will be a disaster

we could end up being so defined in criteria that we cant allow people with blue eyes or of a particular height to play the event

i think we should probably organise different events for different people, clearly some events will have very few players, like say the event for people who fit the following criteria
be above 18 but less than 23
have naturally blond hair (on their head)
at least 5' 9"
be a university student with a grant
be an "A" student
from Dublin City
be insured to drive at least 1 parents' car
have their own sports car
have a 36/24/36 measurement
be about to inherit a fortune
non-smoker
gsoh

no, wait a minute, this is an add for a girlfriend, i will have to go back to the drawing board:cool::cool::cool::cool:

Ace2007

Aim advertising primarily at students but don't be too pernickerty.

The Clamper wrote: »

like say the event for people who fit the following criteria
be above 18 but less than 23
have naturally blond hair (on their head)
at least 5' 9"
be a university student with a grant
be an "A" student
from Dublin City
be insured to drive at least 1 parents' car
have their own sports car
have a 36/24/36 measurement
be about to inherit a fortune
non-smoker
gsoh

no, wait a minute, this is an add for a girlfriend, i will have to go back to the drawing board:cool::cool::cool::cool:

if u take out "student with a grant" - u've got a typical southsider.:D

Goodluck2me

Aim advertising primarily at students but don't be too pernickerty.

Ace2007 wrote: »

if u take out "student with a grant" - u've got a typical southsider.:D

I ticked yes, until it said abotu inheriting a fortune, im only due 500,000, guess im out.

Also why, if you are impartial did carfax and clamper vote? just noticed?
Also option A has constantly been ahead since the start of the poll.

carfax

goodluck2me wrote: »

I ticked yes, until it said abotu inheriting a fortune, im only due 500,000, guess im out.

Also why, if you are impartial did carfax and clamper vote? just noticed?
Also option A has constantly been ahead since the start of the poll.

First of all, I obviously can't claim to be impartial in that I believed that Option B would make for a better "Student" tournament although as I said it makes no difference to me, Poker Ireland or Devilfish Poker so long as everybody that does take part has a great experience and when it comes down to it I'm sure we will still make the tournament a success with the 400 players we are aiming for.

Now I can't speak for Clamper but I voted first to make sure (a) the vote was public, as I ticked that [make votes public] box and (b) because I felt like it and immediately stated that obviously my vote wouldn't count.

Now as I said before we will probably have to go with Option A as it makes the most sense but I don't think its fair to say that that option is in front as there are at least 6 non-student votes in that category with only 3 non-student votes in Option B (as far as I am aware).

Anyway I'm done arguing over small little things now Joe, you can carry on for as long as you like....I hope once the poll is over that everyone gets behind the tournament. If all this has done one thing it has brought a lot of attention on the tournament, just hopes that translates into players supporting it as much as they can, because at the end of the day the National Student Champs is fairly worthless if students don't support it.

The Clamper

I Voted With My Opinion And Conscience

I Believe In My Constitutional Right To Vote

Will You Be Coming Yourself Mate?

Love To See You There, Maybe You Would Do A Master Class For The Students In The Finer Art Of Nl Hold'em?

Goodluck2me

Aim advertising primarily at students but don't be too pernickerty.

The Clamper wrote: »

I Voted With My Opinion And Conscience

I Believe In My Constitutional Right To Vote

Will You Be Coming Yourself Mate?

Love To See You There, Maybe You Would Do A Master Class For The Students In The Finer Art Of Nl Hold'em?

I will of course be attending with many of my friends, I just felt it was important to air my opinion as I believe it is in the best interests of the tournament, and as I have my ear to the ground, and have heard the opinions of other like-minded people, i would be doing you a disservice by not letting you know.
Im sure it will be a good tournament either way, i just think it will be a better tournament, with students only.

P.s. no its not your constitutional right to vote here, you had to click the "students Vote" thread title to get into it!

Heisenberg.

This post has been deleted.

scheister

Aim advertising primarily at students but don't be too pernickerty.

its a hard question is ask. if we say studnets only

what is a studnet? ie IT's Uni plc are 2nd level students post grad

will we still get the number to play in the tournament.

either way i will be there casue it seems a very good chance to meet other players and have a bit of craic. so if the option there is A is picked to maybe have an irish youth tournament later in the year where everyone between say 18 and 30 can regaudless of who they are or what they do.

Tar.Aldarion

I might think an under thirties thing might be suited if you want to compromise. If over thirty, have to be a student.

DeadParrot

Tar.Aldarion wrote: »

I might think an under thirties thing might be suited if you want to compromise. If over thirty, have to be a student.

Not a bad idea but too late now

Goodluck2me

Aim advertising primarily at students but don't be too pernickerty.

Option A FTW.

Goodluck2me

Aim advertising primarily at students but don't be too pernickerty.

Option A wins by the narrowest of margins, is that what you are going to do then steve?