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Just had some v light spotting today which I gather is a sign of ovulation. Also had a strong line on opk and v tender boobs so it sounds like thunderbirds are go....
However two previous nights on the trot and my husband said he physically and mentally can't face it tonight
I'm praying his lil swimmers from last night are staying fresh!!!!!!! 0 -
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Dammit l!
Did a test but it's obviously a dud one as the only thing coming up on the little screen is a little book thing with an arrow?
Haven't got the packaging as it's the second test from a pack from last month.
I'll have to wait til tomorrow now
Baby dust to you all X
Edit: just googled the error and apparently it means too much or too little urine on the stick! (sorry for tmi!) Oops!0 -
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Hi everybody,
We have been TTC for 13 months and not a single BFP has shown up so far Did some preliminary blood tests and a pelvic scan and everything was fine with me, but my hubbie seems to have problems with his sperm motility. I feel very confused about the options here in Ireland. We went to Femplus in Blanchardstown for the first check up and although the doctor was kind and very approachable, she didn't really give us any guidance after the bad results and we got a letter stating that if we want to do further investigation we can contact her and make another appointment, i.e. pay for another visit.
Then we went to a fertility specialist in another country (through holidays/contacts we had, we really went just for the craic and get an expert opinion) and my hubbie did his test again. The numbers were ok, but the motility was very bad and the doc basically said that our only option is IVF with ICSI. He gave us tons of blood tests to do and told us we could go back there once we have all the results. They do ICSI there and the cost would be €3,000 which I understand is a lot cheaper than Ireland.
Today we are going to a GP (we don't really have one as we never really needed that before) and see whether we can go and see a urologist and maybe also see a gyn for me. I feel a bit depressed as I can't seem to find proper medical guidance and the costs even for the blood tests seem to be so crazy that I don't think we can afford it! Well, I am also on fertilityfriend.com which is a great help to track down ovulation and interact with women in the same situation like me but I'd like to hear from people living in Ireland, how they coped with all the expenses and whether IVF is really a viable option here. I have heard of people going to Spain to do it and I wonder whether it is because of the costs or because of the expertise.
Thanks for reading my rant!!!0 -
Hi newhome, I'm sorry I'm not that knowledgeable in any of the questions you asked but some people on this forum are amazing and I'm sure they'll put you straight.
We're now on the 2 week wait and my nerves are already at me. I think this month is the marker of a year of trying and it signals that we might have to start exploring some options sooner rather than later. Age is not on our side. This is the first month where I feel genuinely down about it, other months I just convinced myself that it was just taking us longer than others but it would happen. Now I just keep thinking, what if it's just meant to be? 0 -
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Hi everybody,
We have been TTC for 13 months and not a single BFP has shown up so far Did some preliminary blood tests and a pelvic scan and everything was fine with me, but my hubbie seems to have problems with his sperm motility. I feel very confused about the options here in Ireland. We went to Femplus in Blanchardstown for the first check up and although the doctor was kind and very approachable, she didn't really give us any guidance after the bad results and we got a letter stating that if we want to do further investigation we can contact her and make another appointment, i.e. pay for another visit.
Then we went to a fertility specialist in another country (through holidays/contacts we had, we really went just for the craic and get an expert opinion) and my hubbie did his test again. The numbers were ok, but the motility was very bad and the doc basically said that our only option is IVF with ICSI. He gave us tons of blood tests to do and told us we could go back there once we have all the results. They do ICSI there and the cost would be €3,000 which I understand is a lot cheaper than Ireland.
Today we are going to a GP (we don't really have one as we never really needed that before) and see whether we can go and see a urologist and maybe also see a gyn for me. I feel a bit depressed as I can't seem to find proper medical guidance and the costs even for the blood tests seem to be so crazy that I don't think we can afford it! Well, I am also on fertilityfriend.com which is a great help to track down ovulation and interact with women in the same situation like me but I'd like to hear from people living in Ireland, how they coped with all the expenses and whether IVF is really a viable option here. I have heard of people going to Spain to do it and I wonder whether it is because of the costs or because of the expertise.
Thanks for reading my rant!!!
I have a friend who is due to do ISCI in Spain sometime this spring. There is both male and female factor infertility there, and they had 3 rounds of ISCI in Ireland. They are going to Spain as they will need donor eggs and they are not available in Ireland as far as I know.
I think its a mix of expertise and cost - if you pay €2000 less per cycle for ISCI over there, it makes sense to get a cheap midweek ryanair flight to save the money. And the donor area in this country is very limited I think. I dont even think that Irish sperm is offered, it seems to come from Denmark or somewhere.
I hear of lots of couples heading to spanish destinations for short breaks several times a year - its nearly always midweek and for a few days at a time, with no tan to show for it, so it seems there are lots of couples disguising their IVF travels with short city breaks to Czech, Spanish or Belgian destinations.
Having said that, I would be getting a second opinion from another fertility clinic here before you book up Spain. Unlike women, men can really improve their sperm count and motility in three months by quitting alcohol, smoking, overhauling their diet, and taking supplements such as Zinc or Maca Root, to name but a few.yellow hen wrote: »Hi newhome, I'm sorry I'm not that knowledgeable in any of the questions you asked but some people on this forum are amazing and I'm sure they'll put you straight.
We're now on the 2 week wait and my nerves are already at me. I think this month is the marker of a year of trying and it signals that we might have to start exploring some options sooner rather than later. Age is not on our side. This is the first month where I feel genuinely down about it, other months I just convinced myself that it was just taking us longer than others but it would happen. Now I just keep thinking, what if it's just meant to be?
Hang in there for another few days - I remember feeling the same after the 12 month mark (13 cycles) but once I started arranging the blood tests and referral at the GP I got a renewed optimism - It felt great to be doing something about it, I felt every appointment was a step closer to my baby. Age was a concern for me, I'm 36 and will be 37 when this one is born.Hi I`ve been meaning to post this for a while. I am now pregnant being trying 2.5 years and during the ovulation where I got pregnant I was taking dry cough medicine for the first time ever - I`ve never had a dry cough before but I think it was because I had given up milk so was less mucousy. My friend told me afterwards that she heard that some cough medicine (she named a specific brand not the one I took) helped women get pregnant. All I can say is this clearly worked for me - it was benylin normal dry cough not normal.
Baby dust to all!xx
The active ingredient is Guaifenesin as far as I know. It loosens mucos in the body therefore helps with cervical mucos. It didnt seem to make a difference to me, but maybe I didnt take enough. Exputex or Robitussin have it. I used Preseed instead to alleviate dryness caused by my Clomid intake.0 -
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yellow hen wrote: »Hi newhome, I'm sorry I'm not that knowledgeable in any of the questions you asked but some people on this forum are amazing and I'm sure they'll put you straight.
We're now on the 2 week wait and my nerves are already at me. I think this month is the marker of a year of trying and it signals that we might have to start exploring some options sooner rather than later. Age is not on our side. This is the first month where I feel genuinely down about it, other months I just convinced myself that it was just taking us longer than others but it would happen. Now I just keep thinking, what if it's just meant to be?
I agree with Neyite, taking action with exploring the causes of a delay in getting pregnant is rewarding, although it just seems very messy and confusing here in Ireland. If you do not get your BFP this month, don't postpone it any further, especially if age is not on your side as you may want to explore further options sooner rather than later.0 -
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Gah!
I had a really long reply written but stoopid timeout feature lost it on me.
NaPro can be good or useless depending on the issue involved. I know it can be great for correcting imbalances in the female reproductive system, and has had success with resolving recurrent miscarriage issues.
It didnt seem to be for me - I just simply never managed to get pregnant, but I do suppose that if I had gotten to the IVF stage, I would have looked at it more closely. Furthermore, Dr. Boyle only treats married couples, so since we are not married, we would not have been accepted as patients anyway.
Here is one link i found that might explain NaPro: http://www.fertilitycare.ie/FertilityCare.html
Because it is a natural way of correcting some infertility, its a treatment method fully endorsed by the Catholic Church (as opposed to IVF/ ISCI which they are officially against) since the eventual conception is done the old fashioned way through intercourse instead of in a lab, I found that a lot of information online was published by pro-catholic bodies and organisations. Some were grand, laying out the pros and cons in a scientific method, others were more bible-thumping and their information was definately slanted to suit the religion. Some was downright scaremongering saying that IVF/ISCI was useless and caused things like cancer and everything (as well as going to hell for doing IVF, naturally
.)So, bear this in mind when you are researching it.
I am slightly skeptical of their claims that by improving female reproductive cycles that their stats of 40% for success in male factor infertility are correct. I dont see much difference between that and a doctor giving me antibiotics for my partners chest infection, and for the money you pay to clinics, I would want proper scientific explanations of how tinkering with my bits when his bits have the medical issue would get us pregnant.
But, by all means, approach it with an open mind and research it before you head abroad for ISCI, I certainly would.0 -
Gah!
I had a really long reply written but stoopid timeout feature lost it on me.
NaPro can be good or useless depending on the issue involved. I know it can be great for correcting imbalances in the female reproductive system, and has had success with resolving recurrent miscarriage issues.
It didnt seem to be for me - I just simply never managed to get pregnant, but I do suppose that if I had gotten to the IVF stage, I would have looked at it more closely. Furthermore, Dr. Boyle only treats married couples, so since we are not married, we would not have been accepted as patients anyway.
Here is one link i found that might explain NaPro: http://www.fertilitycare.ie/FertilityCare.html
Because it is a natural way of correcting some infertility, its a treatment method fully endorsed by the Catholic Church (as opposed to IVF/ ISCI which they are officially against) since the eventual conception is done the old fashioned way through intercourse instead of in a lab, I found that a lot of information online was published by pro-catholic bodies and organisations. Some were grand, laying out the pros and cons in a scientific method, others were more bible-thumping and their information was definately slanted to suit the religion. Some was downright scaremongering saying that IVF/ISCI was useless and caused things like cancer and everything (as well as going to hell for doing IVF, naturally.)So, bear this in mind when you are researching it.
I am slightly skeptical of their claims that by improving female reproductive cycles that their stats of 40% for success in male factor infertility are correct. I dont see much difference between that and a doctor giving me antibiotics for my partners chest infection, and for the money you pay to clinics, I would want proper scientific explanations of how tinkering with my bits when his bits have the medical issue would get us pregnant.
But, by all means, approach it with an open mind and research it before you head abroad for ISCI, I certainly would.
thanks again for the info Neyite and sorry to hear ur first message got lost! I am aware of the naprotech doctors' Catholic biast. Although I don't demonise IVF I do think it is a very complex and difficult procedure and obviously I would rather conceive naturally. I think I will try to book an appointment with Dr. Boyle and check what he finds about me. I do think that if a woman is highly fertile it may be easier for a man with low sperm quality to conceive naturally. For example, the environment provided by the woman's tube may not be the best for sperm survival. So if you have 3 million sperm that made it up there you have quite high chances that one of them will meet the egg.But if you only have a few hundred thousands, if the environment is not ideal then ur chances of conceiving will be v slim. So, maybe, if that environment could be improved then there would be higher survival chances for those few sperm. Obviously if you do not have sperm whatsover the issue is different and the only viable solution is IVF.
So, that's why I want to explore napro before starting IVF. The fertility specialist abroad didn't even question the health of my tubes/cervix. He simply said that the only option for us is IVF and that my tubes are irrelevant as all their work will be bypassed in the lab.
Well fingers crossed that things might happen naturally v soon!!!0 -
Hang in there for another few days - I remember feeling the same after the 12 month mark (13 cycles) but once I started arranging the blood tests and referral at the GP I got a renewed optimism - It felt great to be doing something about it, I felt every appointment was a step closer to my baby. Age was a concern for me, I'm 36 and will be 37 when this one
Thanks neyite. I had a laparoscopy done to remove cysts but the doc said these wouldnt have effected fertility they told me my ovaries womb and tubes looked fine though so I can be referred to a fertility expert now. I'm going to give it to mid march and then we will start down that route. I'm 35 now so hopefully it will happen soon!
Sorry sarahbro and custard cream. Total bummer when you have your hopes built up.0 -
On CD18 now, which I think is about 5dpo and I have a dull ache around my right ovary. I also feel like there is pressure when i sit or try to pee. I'm not sure if it's related to the cyst removal but I am praying it's a sign of something better. Head is wrecked thinking about it. I dont think an hour passed last night without thinking about it
edit to say, I actually am a little constipated too. The exact feeling I would normally get when AF is here.0 -
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