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The expat doctor hadn't a bulls notion how to interpret my day 21 results but I've looked it up online now and verified on several different websites my result is bad :-(
14.7 nmol/l
(according to opks I ov'd approx 7 days b4 this 21 day test)
From what I can tell from online this should be 30 or more and means either I didn't ovulate (despite opk to the contrary) or I did ov but my corpus luteum might not be secreting enough progesterone so I could have difficulty sustaining pregnancy.
In tears on the bus back to work and don't want to back in and face the rest of the day :-(
It sucks not having any confidence in your doctor. I see that you're living abroad, where abouts? Not being nosey just wondering if it would be easy to swap to a different doctor in whom you might have more confidence or build a relationship with.
This TTC is difficult and fraught with twists and turns and emotional difficulties and so having a good medical person in your corner is very important.
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PennyDreadful, thanks - I went to that doc coz it's free (I know, am I a cheapskate or what) and even the blood tests are free. I used them to get what I want for free (day 3 + day 21 bloods and a referral letter for a fertility clinic) So I shouldn't complain about a free service being crap, look I got what I wanted out of them - I have to do the analysis of the results myself for the time being - I'm hoping to pop into my GP in Ireland when I'm home at the weekend, she doesn't do Sat clinics but she said she's often in the office doing paperwork of a Sat if I want to call in so I'll see if she's around this Sat, I'd love to sit down and talk about this day 21 result with her.
Stickybean and Tomee, very sorry to hear about that witch arriving
My friends are also visiting (remember that old phrase) ....she's certainly no friend to anyone on this forum!!
Tomee, yes I have been reading about low progesterone and yes it can be a sign of miscarriage. That's why Napro (from what I've read) give you progesterone, apparently they really focus on progesterone.
It's a weird one to find out is low, because I don't know what I can do about it....it's not like - eat more greens, raise your progesterone! Get more sleep, cut out alcohol/caffeine - raise your progesterone! I don't know how to increase the amount of a hormone inside my body?0 -
stickybean wrote: »Day 48 and I'm out, how cruel mother nature can be, 20 days late and I kept holding out hope... feeling drained
:eek::eek: Jeeze Mother Nature is being the wicked stepmother .
20 days! How could you not hope with 20 days.
Sending warm thoughts your way. Hope you're doing ok. 0 -
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Feeling the fear big time right now.
I went to the bathroom a little while ago and noticed some spotting. Assuming its my period. If it is then its early (if I'm going to work off when I ovulated which was Nov 19th) which means my luteal phase is short, very short which isn't good news.
I'm experiencing some mild back pain and cramping as I would get with my period.
All signs are pointing to it being my bloody, stupid, freakin' period.
Trying to so hard (if awards were given out for the speed at which a girl can Google:rolleyes:) so very hard to convince myself its implantation bleeding and not my period. If it was implantation bleeding then its right on schedule as to when it happens. Just don't feel that lucky though. I have very tender boobs too and have done for a week but again the way things are going I bet thats just stupid period stuff too.
The really really awkward thing is that its too early to take a pregnancy test that would deliver conclusive news one way or the other. Granted if the bleeding develops then I'll have the answer in the form of a full on period.
Stupid body. Sometimes I don't like you very much.0 -
Penny Dreadful wrote: »Feeling the fear big time right now.
I went to the bathroom a little while ago and noticed some spotting. Assuming its my period. If it is then its early (if I'm going to work off when I ovulated which was Nov 19th) which means my luteal phase is short, very short which isn't good news.
I'm experiencing some mild back pain and cramping as I would get with my period.
All signs are pointing to it being my bloody, stupid, freakin' period.
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Penny I hope it's not your period but if it is, chin up, you've only been trying 1 cycle with OPKs, maybe it will take a couple of cycles of correctly timed sex to get a sticky bean. Fingers crossed for you anyway though that it isn't your period!0 -
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Penny Dreadful wrote: »Feeling the fear big time right now.
I went to the bathroom a little while ago and noticed some spotting. Assuming its my period. If it is then its early (if I'm going to work off when I ovulated which was Nov 19th) which means my luteal phase is short, very short which isn't good news.
I'm experiencing some mild back pain and cramping as I would get with my period.
All signs are pointing to it being my bloody, stupid, freakin' period.
Trying to so hard (if awards were given out for the speed at which a girl can Google:rolleyes:) so very hard to convince myself its implantation bleeding and not my period. If it was implantation bleeding then its right on schedule as to when it happens. Just don't feel that lucky though. I have very tender boobs too and have done for a week but again the way things are going I bet thats just stupid period stuff too.
The really really awkward thing is that its too early to take a pregnancy test that would deliver conclusive news one way or the other. Granted if the bleeding develops then I'll have the answer in the form of a full on period.
Stupid body. Sometimes I don't like you very much.
Penny, I feel your pain. I had a very short luteal phase on my last cycle, just 8 days. My period started very light so for about 2 days I was trying to figure out if it was implantation bleeding or a real period. Had a first response test at the ready, wondering how soon I could test. Was really frustrating not knowing!! In my case, it turned out to be my period, but I've my fingers crossed for you that that's not the case!0 -
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Well hubby's SA take two results are in.....this time the ''fertility condom'' was used so every drop was tested this time.
Unfortunately though, the results are still bad: Count of 4 this time (3 last time), Morphology of 3 this time (also 3 last time) and Motility of 43% this time (40% last time). According to the HARI that's a fail on all three.
The Hari told his doc, they recommend IVF with ICSI.
He got those results yesterday on teh same day that I got the bad day 21 result. As you can imagine twas great craic round ours last night
Strangely enough, because the news is sooooo bad, I'm actually gone into a shock mode so instead of sobbing all day in the toilets at work, I'm actually bouncing around the place. I think it's called Denial !!!
It will take a few weeks I'd say for the full impact of this to sink in. My mind is whirling, absolutely spinning, there are so many thoughts going around and around.0 -
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Well hubby's SA take two results are in.....this time the ''fertility condom'' was used so every drop was tested this time.
Unfortunately though, the results are still bad: Count of 4 this time (3 last time), Morphology of 3 this time (also 3 last time) and Motility of 43% this time (40% last time). According to the HARI that's a fail on all three.
The Hari told his doc, they recommend IVF with ICSI.
He got those results yesterday on teh same day that I got the bad day 21 result. As you can imagine twas great craic round ours last night
Strangely enough, because the news is sooooo bad, I'm actually gone into a shock mode so instead of sobbing all day in the toilets at work, I'm actually bouncing around the place. I think it's called Denial !!!
It will take a few weeks I'd say for the full impact of this to sink in. My mind is whirling, absolutely spinning, there are so many thoughts going around and around.
Lucuma just to say sorry about the results. Have you looked at Napro as they will work with both parties, to improve results. http://www.fertilitycare.net/Infertility.htm
You may still go on to IVF but at least you will have improved your chances by hopefully both having healthier test results. Just a thought.0 -
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Well hubby's SA take two results are in.....this time the ''fertility condom'' was used so every drop was tested this time.
Unfortunately though, the results are still bad: Count of 4 this time (3 last time), Morphology of 3 this time (also 3 last time) and Motility of 43% this time (40% last time). According to the HARI that's a fail on all three.
The Hari told his doc, they recommend IVF with ICSI.
He got those results yesterday on teh same day that I got the bad day 21 result. As you can imagine twas great craic round ours last night
Strangely enough, because the news is sooooo bad, I'm actually gone into a shock mode so instead of sobbing all day in the toilets at work, I'm actually bouncing around the place. I think it's called Denial !!!
It will take a few weeks I'd say for the full impact of this to sink in. My mind is whirling, absolutely spinning, there are so many thoughts going around and around.
Sooo sorry to hear about your results pet xxx0 -
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Penny Dreadful wrote: »Finally- putting up the Christmas tree and decorations this weekend and I'm going to open a bottle of champagne, light the fire and enjoy a great evening with my lovely husband. We've been waiting for ages to pop that bottle and you know what we could die waiting so I'm just going to do it and celebrate a mini Christmas and being happily in love and sod the rest of the $hit€ for the evening.
bad news about Aunt Flo
I admire your attitude though, I've been having a good long hard think about things myself, and I don't want this to consume our lives for the next 10 years.0 -
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bad news about Aunt Flo
I admire your attitude though, I've been having a good long hard think about things myself, and I don't want this to consume our lives for the next 10 years.
Fake it 'till you make it. :rolleyes::) Its a period, its not cast iron proof that we're never going to have the baby we desire. Its a pain in the ass and today my mood matches (or out does, I'm more thunder and lightening right now) the wet miserable weather, work is really annoying me and all that .
HOWEVER,
like everything else this feeling will pass. I know that, of all things I'm sure of I know that this feeling will pass.
Sending good positive thoughts to all of the TTC ladies (and their partners too) today. Its close to Friday, a week closer to Christmas (i.e. a break from work), onwards and (eventually) upwards we will go.0 -
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Don think like that Lucuma I know it's hard not to but you will have by your baby your just gonna have to take the scenic route . Don't talk about contraception I blame it for my problems!
So do I, it's the only thing I can think of - all those years on the pill.
oh and stress. Yesterday after receiving the latest round of bad news, I was thinking back through all the females in my family - starting with my uber-fertile sister to my uber-fertile mother, uber-fertile grandmothers on both sides - then I was thinking about my aunties - all had families, and then I was going back to the grand-aunties searching for any other infertile women in the family other than me. The only thing I could come up with was one of my grandaunts who married but never had any family. I really feel like an anomaly in my family I have to say
My GP in Ireland said she'll be in the surgery doing paperwork on Sat and has agreed to meet me to discuss my day 3 + day 21, thank god. I can't wait to discuss these results with a professional. There's a tiny bit of me is hoping she'll tell me I misinterpreted the units and if you convert the results to different units they're all suddenly fantastic!! (but think I'm grasping at straws)0 -
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