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New Mainboard with AGP, not PCI-e

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  • 19-02-2008 5:58pm
    #1
    Bogger77
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    Hi All,
    I'm thinking of upgrading my pc, it's a p4 2.66ghz pc, with AGP card. I'd like to upgrade, but since my 512mb AGP graphics card is more than enough for the games I play, and is only 9month old, I'd rather not upgrade.

    I've seen some AMD boards, with AGP still, but I'm more of an Intel guy.
    Googling isn't helping, so any idea's on what new boards, which support dual core chips, still have agp support?

    Thanks
    C


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    TerrorFirmer
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    Cheap Asrock board? Not sure what other vendors offer boards that support pci-e/agp and ddr2/ddr.

    http://www.dabs.ie/productview.aspx?Quicklinx=4QNB&SearchType=1&SearchTerms=asrock&PageMode=3&SearchKey=All&SearchMode=All&NavigationKey=48760000


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    astrofool
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    What graphics card do you have. You're better off upgrading the whole hog really, or you'll be stuck with the same problem again in a few months.


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    Stephen
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    Yeah, I wouldn't bother keeping any AGP stuff around. Its all old hat at this stage.


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    Bogger77
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    Currently got a Radeon X1600PRO

    budget doesnt include a new graphics card, it may be old hat, but it's a match for any of the other cards in it's price bracket.


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    astrofool
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    Well, what's your budget?

    You're going to be at least getting a motherboard + cpu, possibly RAM as well, an X1600PRO isn't an expensive card (http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.aspx?sku=324858) You'd be better off selling your AGP card for €30 and dropping a CPU speed grade. You'll lose more than that by the conversion from AGP to PCI-E which happens on a hybrid board. The VIA chipset probably sets you back 2 speed grades alone compared to a P35 board.


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    Bogger77
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    Am guessing I'd have to go to sata drives too.

    Budget is : what ever my bonus next month is, so around 500-600e


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    astrofool
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    Most motherboards still have at least one ide port. Though, 500-600 is a grand budget to do whats needed (gfx,motherboard,cpu,ram). I'd view those asrock boards as being useful when you have an old system that has a breakdown, and need to keep it going for as cheap as possible, should not have a place in a system designed for games playing.

    e.g. here's an idea of prices from komplett for an upgrade using a P35 board, a Radeon HD 3650, a SATA 500GB drive, Q6600, and 4GB RAM. I'm sure this can be trimmed even more depending on your tastes (just quickly added together). Also, you may be in need of a PSU.

    Items in Shopping Cart Qty Your Price Total
    Asus P5K SE, P35, Socket-775, DDR2, ATX, GbLAN, PCI-Ex16
    Article number: 337827
    Stock status: 12 stocked 99.00 99.00

    Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 2.4GHz Socket LGA775, 8MB, BOXED w/fan
    Article number: 330169
    Stock status: 50-99 stocked 216.51 216.51

    OCZ Gold XTC DDR2 PC6400 4096MB KIT, w/two 2048MB PC6400 XTC, CL5-5-5-15
    Article number: 333974
    Stock status: 50-99 stocked 94.00 94.00

    Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 500GB, SATA-300, 32MB, 7200RPM
    Article number: 344091
    Stock status: 50-99 stocked 99.00 99.00

    Club3D Radeon HD3650 ZEROTHERM 512MB, GDDR3, PCI-Express, 2xDVI, HDCP, HDMI
    Article number: 346537
    Stock status: 20 pcs expected on stock 2008-02-20 91.00 91.00
    PRF:
    Total:
    0.00
    599.51


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    Bogger77
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    Thanks Astro

    Am using a Thermaltake PSU, 600W's I think, so that should handle it. I'll be switching my ide's onto a nas server so I'd be able to use a smaller hd internally, got over a tb of ide drives.


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    astrofool
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    Just make sure the PSU has the extra connectors needed (24pin + 8pin motherboard and 6 pin PCI-E connector), I had some older 600w PSU's without these (high end a good few years ago).

    On HD size, there's not much of a price difference up to 500GB, the one above is a very good performer, latest tech (7200.11) and 32MB Cache on board.


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    Bogger77
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    astrofool wrote: »
    Just make sure the PSU has the extra connectors needed (24pin + 8pin motherboard and 6 pin PCI-E connector), I had some older 600w PSU's without these (high end a good few years ago).

    On HD size, there's not much of a price difference up to 500GB, the one above is a very good performer, latest tech (7200.11) and 32MB Cache on board.


    Just an update
    Took most of your advise Astro.

    went with
    342624 Asus P5E-V HDMI, G35, Socket-775, DDR2,
    ATX, GbLAN, Firewire, HDMI/DVI, PCI-Ex16
    327330 XFX GeForce 8800GTX 575M 768MB GDDR3,
    PCI-Express, 2xDVI/HDTV/HDCP, 384-bit
    329026 Thermaltake Toughpower 850W, Modular,
    8xSATA, ATX/EPS, 4xPCI-E, 20/24pin
    335481 Creative SB X-FI Xtreme Gamer

    338086 Intel Core 2 Quad Q6700 2.67GHz
    Socket LGA775, 8MB, BOXED w/fan
    345773 OCZ Platinum DDR2 PC6400 8192MB KIT,
    w/four 2048MB PC6400 XTC, CL5-4-4-18
    343054 Samsung SpinPoint F1 750GB SATA2
    32MB 7200RPM


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