Vista SP1 to prove problematic.

Gadgetman496

:eek:

Courtesy of ENN:

Microsoft has published a list of programs that are incompatible with its recently-released Vista Service Pack 1. The affected apps include a number of security programs such as Zone Alarm Security Suite, Trend Micro Internet Security and Rising Personal Firewall. Vista users have been advised to install updates to fix the problem. Windows Vista Service Pack 1 contains many security, reliability, and feature updates for Windows Vista, according to Microsoft. "A program may experience a loss of functionality after you install Windows Vista SP1. However, most programs will continue to work as expected after you install Windows Vista SP1." The full list of incompatible programs can be found HERE

garthv

Mneh not much of a loss,
Zone Alarm is a joke of a program and the other two I've never even heard of.
Been using sp1 for motnhs now and I've had no problems whatsoever.

kaizersoze

A bit sensationalist tbh.
12 programs, most unheard of, and 9 of them have compatible versions already available.

Like garthv I've been using SP1 for a while now with a good mixture of software & hardware and no problems.

yoyo

SP1 works fine here, I dont use zone alarm bloatware or Trend Micro and not heard of rising firewall... This list is nothing compared to the list XP SP2 compatability issiues it had at time it came out iirc , SP2 had a huge list, this is just more stupid vista bashing

Nick

Stephen

Yep, SP1 has been fine for me too

dubmick

is the full release of SP1 out yet?

Sherifu

dubmick wrote: »

is the full release of SP1 out yet?

SP1 RC2 is out which has been confirmed as the RTM. It's been released to partners/Microsoft Developer Network and it's been released for x64 systems.

IamMetaldave

I have SP1 working and Trend has been unaffected by it also.

mick.fr

I would say, without a proof, but with a very strong feeling, that Microsoft has also probably kicked those programs out (Why only those would be not working anymore...) because they are very popular and they are trying to sell OneCare v2.0 to the end users.

yoyo

mick.fr wrote: »

I would say, without a proof, but with a very strong feeling, that Microsoft has also probably kicked those programs out (Why only those would be not working anymore...) because they are very popular and they are trying to sell OneCare v2.0 to the end users.

Trend Micro popular? Never thought that, AVG, Avast, AntiVir etc all work fine in SP1, ohh yeah and my NOD32 works fine aswell, also not heard of rising firewall but the likes of Comodo etc still appear to be working? I doubt very much microsoft were planning anything here

Nick

PogMoThoin

Got my SP1 update (64bit Vista) thru windows update today, absolutely no probs, cant say i noticed any difference either.

Its only available for 64bit so far because third party driver conflicts, more here

Capt'n Midnight

Then latest versions of zone alarm are fine too.

Most / all the products are security related and so it most likely related to security tweaks in Vista.

Overheal

SP1 right - albeit in somewhat of a beta form: those of you using it would reccomend it being at a stage for use by the average consumer? Im wondering whether to install it now or wait for the official release.

mukki

sure windows has its one firewall for years now, why are people buying another one

PogMoThoin

Overheal wrote: »

SP1 right - albeit in somewhat of a beta form: those of you using it would reccomend it being at a stage for use by the average consumer? Im wondering whether to install it now or wait for the official release.

Mine is the official release, 64bit sp1 is out, no beta here

mukki

yeah, you can get the 32bit and 64bit RTM sp1 from one of "those" sites

Capt'n Midnight

mukki wrote: »

sure windows has its one firewall for years now, why are people buying another one

The windows firewall doesn't alert you to stuff dialing home

Then again there are a good few free for personal use firewalls for VISTA.

If you want to pay for a firewall, then spend it on hardware first, I'd rather have NAT + windows firewall than a direction connection to the internet and just a software fire.

Capt'n Midnight

mukki wrote: »

yeah, you can get the 32bit and 64bit RTM sp1 from one of "those" sites

Look at NT4 SP6 , the fixed version is 6a

Unless I was having real problems I'd wait until a month after the service pack is released and let other people be the guinea pigs.

mukki

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

The windows firewall doesn't alert you to stuff dialing home

very true, but from experience with zone alarm if someone sees a popup saying naked4u.exe is trying to connect to 234.122.33.41 they will click deny once or twice, but after the 3rd or 4th popup they will click allow, most people just want popups to go away asap

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

Look at NT4 SP6 , the fixed version is 6a

Unless I was having real problems I'd wait until a month after the service pack is released and let other people be the guinea pigs.

yeah your right, but i am more an out with the old in with the new sort of person, i rebuild pcs everyday of the week so if i mess it up i could post on here to war you guys.

Capt'n Midnight

mukki wrote: »

very true, but from experience with zone alarm if someone sees a popup saying naked4u.exe is trying to connect to 234.122.33.41 they will click deny once or twice, but after the 3rd or 4th popup they will click allow, most people just want popups to go away asap

LOL
funny 'cos it's true
nothing is idiot proof

PogMoThoin

mukki wrote: »

very true, but from experience with zone alarm if someone sees a popup saying naked4u.exe is trying to connect to 234.122.33.41 they will click deny once or twice, but after the 3rd or 4th popup they will click allow, most people just want popups to go away asap

My job as a wireless broadband installer brings me in2 peoples houses to set-up their pc's. Yep, i've come across people like that, people who cancel all windows updates when they pop-up thinking they're viruses. I've even got "the broadband is slowing down the computer, it takes ages to start"

Overheal

Norton does the trick for me. Might ask me if something wants to run for the first time but then it wises up. I never hear from it again unless something tries to hack or portscan me.

Mac daddy

dubmick wrote: »

is the full release of SP1 out yet?

Normal users it will be available mid march.

However i do not advise installing it at the moment

See : http://forums.microsoft.com/TechNet/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=2748299&SiteID=17
Yes i have lost test systems because of it so far and my own system....

mukki

Overheal wrote: »

Norton does the trick for me. Might ask me if something wants to run for the first time but then it wises up. I never hear from it again unless something tries to hack or portscan me.

please refrain from saying good things about norton:D

your pc would be much faster and more stable without it