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Barnwell, Hansfield, near Ongar, Dublin 15

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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,813 ✭✭✭billie1b


    ongarboy wrote: »
    Just reading an article below about access being blocked to Barnwell Hansfield. Is this article out of date now that the new access road via the Train Station road is now open and lined/tarmacadamed or is this now the sole access to the area which residents are concerned with?

    http://www.gazettegroup.com/news/building-work-causes-estate-parking-issues/

    A friend of mine who lives in there was telling me that the original entrance to the estate (where the fm104 house is) is being closed and you will only be able to access the school from the roundabout and walking through the estate. All cars access the estate from the train station entrance now. Dunno if this is what you may be talking about


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,201 ✭✭✭ongarboy


    Seems crazy that the brand new road around the new school cannot be used as an alternative access route for Hansfield residents as it has been completed and street lit. Does anyone know the reason why it's blocked off?

    Secondly, what is being built behind the large white hoarding behind the Educate Together school? More houses or something else?

    Finally, the first of the new builds off the roundabout to the station are coming along nicelyl


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,695 ✭✭✭December2012


    billie1b wrote: »
    ......(where the fm104 house is) ......

    What's the FM104 house?


  • Registered Users Posts: 247 ✭✭nicnac


    The new build down by the station road is very close to the unsold houses behind it. I wonder if they intend to knock the ones that have been sitting empty. They are far too close


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,505 ✭✭✭daymobrew


    ongarboy wrote: »
    Secondly, what is being built behind the large white hoarding behind the Educate Together school? More houses or something else?
    Is it Hansfield Educate Together Secondary School?
    The primary school is in the top right of the pic on the web site.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,400 ✭✭✭fletch


    What's the FM104 house?
    fm104 had a competition a few years ago (maybe 2008) to win a house in barnswell.
    http://www.fm104.ie/Galleries/Win-a-Dublin-Showhouse-final


  • Registered Users Posts: 10 crazzzyyy


    Does anybody has opinion about ET school and Benedict one? Please help me to pick school 4 my litlle one :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,695 ✭✭✭December2012


    There are two educate together schools - one in Barnwell, one in Ongar (that's called Castaheaney educate together).

    Have a look at their websites http://stbenedictsongar.ie

    http://www.castaheanyetns.ie

    http://hansfieldetns.com

    What kind of ethos do you want for your child? Religious or non religious?


  • Registered Users Posts: 10 crazzzyyy


    Id say even in ET You can have extra religion lesson... just want to know opinion about atmosphere, level of education etc...id say many peoople from here have kids there.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,201 ✭✭✭ongarboy


    nicnac wrote: »
    The new build down by the station road is very close to the unsold houses behind it. I wonder if they intend to knock the ones that have been sitting empty. They are far too close

    I noticed that too. It would seem very costly and wasteful to demolish houses that were built but then again, it's different builders involved with the new builds...not sure what their ownership is of the existing homes ( I understand the previous builder (Menolly or Manor Park Homes????) went bust?). Then again, the way some houses/apartments in Ongar Park were built on top of or perpendicular to eachother is really unsightly too and it got the planning go ahead.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,192 ✭✭✭HungryJoey


    A copy of the site layout. 146 new dwellings (2,3,4 bed).

    Permission granted for Hasnfield Investements ltd.:
    http://documents.fingalcoco.ie/NorthgatePublicDocs/00471328.pdf

    Top half Plans:
    http://documents.fingalcoco.ie/NorthgatePublicDocs/00469225.pdf

    Bottom half plans:
    http://documents.fingalcoco.ie/NorthgatePublicDocs/00469226.pdf


  • Registered Users Posts: 305 ✭✭Twizzler


    ongarboy wrote: »
    I noticed that too. It would seem very costly and wasteful to demolish houses that were built but then again, it's different builders involved with the new builds...not sure what their ownership is of the existing homes ( I understand the previous builder (Menolly or Manor Park Homes????) went bust?). Then again, the way some houses/apartments in Ongar Park were built on top of or perpendicular to eachother is really unsightly too and it got the planning go ahead.

    I drove past this development today but didn't get a chance to get a good look at it. It seemed like they are also working on some of the unsold houses behind the new ones though - is that right? I only glanced over, so I could be wrong.

    Either way, it's good to see some life in that development again.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,201 ✭✭✭ongarboy


    According to the plans in the previous post, they will be keeping the houses that were abandoned so I imagine they will get upgraded. The 3 storey ones in front of them completely overshadow them though.

    The brand new builds are starting to take shape and look rather well. Street lighting up and windows/doors inserted. According to the plans it looks like the whole space up to the large electricity pylons will be developed so it will probably be years before housing extends all the way up to Hansfield station.


  • Registered Users Posts: 247 ✭✭nicnac


    HungryJoey wrote: »
    A copy of the site layout. 146 new dwellings (2,3,4 bed).

    Permission granted for Hasnfield Investements ltd.:
    http://documents.fingalcoco.ie/NorthgatePublicDocs/00471328.pdf

    Top half Plans:
    http://documents.fingalcoco.ie/NorthgatePublicDocs/00469225.pdf

    Bottom half plans:
    http://documents.fingalcoco.ie/NorthgatePublicDocs/00469226.pdf

    Looks like Fingal moved those files


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 7,971 Mod ✭✭✭✭liamog


    nicnac wrote: »
    Looks like Fingal moved those files

    If the docs aren't accessed for a while the direct links stop working.

    I just loaded them all up there, and the links in the thread are working again.


  • Registered Users Posts: 247 ✭✭nicnac


    liamog wrote: »
    If the docs aren't accessed for a while the direct links stop working.

    I just loaded them all up there, and the links in the thread are working again.
    Is that a boards thing... Or Fingal's server?
    Thanks for letting me know. I can access tbem now too


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,201 ✭✭✭ongarboy


    I see another planning application has gone in last month for 128 additional houses in and around the bakery (to the west of the new Educate Together schools) under planning ref FW15A/0032 in the Fingal Co Co website. What's interesting about this one is they not only want access from the current Ongar roundabout, they also want entrances from the back road from Lucan to Clonee which has raised a number of observations from local residents about the dangers of such junctions. I can't see junctions being allowed on that road, especially in the area around the new railway bridge.

    The application is still under review by the council


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,400 ✭✭✭fletch


    ongarboy wrote: »
    I see another planning application has gone in last month for 128 additional houses in and around the bakery (to the west of the new Educate Together schools) under planning ref FW15A/0032 in the Fingal Co Co website. What's interesting about this one is they not only want access from the current Ongar roundabout, they also want entrances from the back road from Lucan to Clonee which has raised a number of observations from local residents about the dangers of such junctions. I can't see junctions being allowed on that road, especially in the area around the new railway bridge.

    The application is still under review by the council
    http://documents.fingalcoco.ie/NorthgatePublicDocs/00489453.pdf
    I thought there was a secondary school going on that land? Edit - I see it's going to the south of the current Educate Together Primary School

    The southern most entrance is located very close to the bridge alright however it's only servicing 5 houses so it shouldn't pose too much of a risk.
    I would love if they put a through road from the N3/N4 link road to the Ongar Road to relieve some of the mess at the T-junction on the Ongar-Clonee back road


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,201 ✭✭✭ongarboy


    The first few new homes at the station road side are coming along really nicely now. The trees and shrubbery that has been laid out along with the stone work/granite of the common area walls are quite impressive....gives the area an improved touch of class!

    They've even opened a website to register interest.

    http://www.hansfieldhomes.com/


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,813 ✭✭✭billie1b


    ongarboy wrote: »
    The first few new homes at the station road side are coming along really nicely now. The trees and shrubbery that has been laid out along with the stone work/granite of the common area walls are quite impressive....gives the area an improved touch of class!

    They've even opened a website to register interest.

    http://www.hansfieldhomes.com/

    Pointless advertising Hansfield train station, its a joke of a station, place is really starting to come together though, they've started flattening and clearing the land on the opposite side of the new homes too


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,201 ✭✭✭ongarboy


    billie1b wrote: »
    Pointless advertising Hansfield train station, its a joke of a station, place is really starting to come together though, they've started flattening and clearing the land on the opposite side of the new homes too

    In fairness, Hansfield station is grand if you work anywhere in the IFSC/South Docklands (as I do! :) ...and you can see by the 100s that get off in Docklands station every morning that a lot do). If it means changing at Clonsilla for city centre/Dart connections, well that's fairly standard by international rail commute standards to have to change trains (in London, most Tube commuters change at least once). I agree the off peak shuttle service is a pain to wait for but can't be helped if the demand isn't there.


  • Registered Users Posts: 106 ✭✭central


    For anyone who might be interested these houses are launching to the public on Sat 16th and Sun 17th May from 2pm - 4pm each day. 3 beds are starting at €260k


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,201 ✭✭✭ongarboy




  • Registered Users Posts: 176 ✭✭gogreen81


    Any new owners if Barnwell ? What's the feedback on the new lot
    Missed the boat and waiting for someone to cancel.

    They have some 3bhk available but won't be ready until jan. Does anyone think it's good enuf and worth a wait? Do they delay ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,201 ✭✭✭ongarboy


    Has Permit Parking been introduced across all of Hansfield housing area? I just noticed a sign for the first time on the junction into the main housing area from the station road. Can any residents advise the reason for this? Ongar Park's main reason for introduction was to use it to enforce payment of management fees.


  • Registered Users Posts: 17 nelly river


    Maybe there was complaints with people using the estate as a park n ride? Id love to get a house in the next phase in 12 months time. What are the management fees? Currently pay €1800 on my 2 bed apt in city centre.


  • Registered Users Posts: 149 ✭✭phoenix49


    Is there anyone living there? What do you think of area in terms of fun, social/antisocial behaviour, i.e. grumpy teenagers and safety? We are looking for a property in the area and it seems nice and promising. Good thing is that there's a station nearby for commuting and schools.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5 Sabi6ka


    Hi guys, seems that this topic is almost dead but I'll write anyway in case you read it :) we just booked a house in Hansfield and if everything goes well hope to move in about 2-3 month. We have an 18 month old boy so, I really hope there are many moms with kids and also nice playgrounds and places to walk:) Looking forward to meet new people and to make friends. Also hope that our future neighbours are nice people.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,010 ✭✭✭Dr_Teeth


    Babies everywhere :) and four schools plus a train station on your doorstep. It's a good place I think.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 176 ✭✭gogreen81


    Sabi6ka wrote: »
    Hi guys, seems that this topic is almost dead but I'll write anyway in case you read it :) we just booked a house in Hansfield and if everything goes well hope to move in about 2-3 month. We have an 18 month old boy so, I really hope there are many moms with kids and also nice playgrounds and places to walk:) Looking forward to meet new people and to make friends. Also hope that our future neighbours are nice people.

    ohh yes we are. :)
    also moving early next year and hoping that the neighbors are nice. is your house being built right now? i know loads on new houses being built there at the moment.


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