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South Africa - the future

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    #32
    El Stuntman
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    jmayo wrote: »
    Will admit went off on tangent discussing ex-pat SAs (and their sporting abilities or lack thereof) who happen to have moved to other developed countries in the western world e.g Canada, UK, Ireland.
    Maybe the fact that there are so many young white educated SAs moving abroad might point to fact they have no faith in the future of their country.
    A lot of them see it as another Zimbabwe in the making.
    Yes we are using anecdotal evidence but there ain't smoke without fire.

    The issues a lot of whites have are: crime, corruption, nepotism (not just in state jobs but look at rugby and it's ficasco), the fact that nothing is being done about Mugabe, and the fact that some of the political leaders are eejits.

    anectodally, I can confirm that many of the highly-paid, highly-skilled white (and also some coloured and black) employees in my company are applying for transfers to our operations here, in the UK and in Australia. Some have also left the company and moved abroad.

    these are people who stuck around through the Mandela and Mbeki eras, they are not mercenaries or racists. They have simply lost faith in the direction that their politicans are taking the country. It's very sad to see


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    #33
    Sand
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    The middle class "proffessionals", whatever their race, will tend to move towards the regimes that are tolerably administered, and run on sound economic principles. If South Africa is being run into the ground - which by all appearances it appears to be - its no mystery in this era of global travel and migration that anyone with some braincells or drive is bailing out and heading for a properly run liberal [a.k.a capitalist] democracy.

    We in Ireland had a similar situation not so long ago so its not an issue any more odd than simply the ANC and Zuma being basically greedy, corrupt and incompetent political group who have become complacent in their power - not like anyone wed know at all? The problem will be fixed when SA descends to the levels of economic collapse where idealogy is ignored and basic economic common sense is applied, because the alternative is economic suicide. Ireland came out of its economic tailspin once socialism had been discredited, its likely SA will come out of its own decline eventually to.

    The concern of course is the education system - if the education system isnt up to the task of providing an educated, competent middle class work force then SA is in for a hell of a time. Zimbabwes leadership may start trying to fix the country at any point, but with the damage done so far that will be far more difficult than was the case in Ireland where the education system remained basically sound despite the economy.

    Communists fix the problem of exodus by locking everyone into the rollercoaster for the ride, so Zuma may get around to that eventually.


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    El Stuntman
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    Sand wrote: »
    The concern of course is the education system - if the education system isnt up to the task of providing an educated, competent middle class work force then SA is in for a hell of a time.

    it's not up to the task


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    #35
    jawlie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 384 ✭✭jawlie


    Sand wrote: »
    The middle class "proffessionals", whatever their race, will tend to move towards the regimes that are tolerably administered, and run on sound economic principles. If South Africa is being run into the ground - which by all appearances it appears to be - its no mystery in this era of global travel and migration that anyone with some braincells or drive is bailing out and heading for a properly run liberal [a.k.a capitalist] democracy.

    Of course thats true, but it is also true that the countries to which they want to go have to accept their qualifications as valid if they want to work there.

    In SA, for example, the training for doctors used to be recognised abroad. This is no longer the case as the SA authorities have changed the way doctors are taught and the course is shorter and no longer recognised as acceptable to practice in most countries abroad.

    A cynical attempt by the SA authorities to prevent their doctors from going abroad and prevent a brain drain?

    http://www.mg.co.za/articlePage.aspx?articleid=335147&area=/insight/insight__economy__business/


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