Liquid Egg Whites.

rubadub

Mikel wrote: »

if anyone here is in advertising or marketing, kill yourself

I have a total distrust of adverts and question a lot of stuff on a fundamental basis. I usually question the incentive behind the lies. Most "healthy foods" in supermarkets are just cleverly marketed and are BS.

I always heard high levels of saturated fat was bad, and had no real reason the question it. I couldn't think of a reason they would lie or deceive people about the nutritional value of saturated fats.
I also used to think the "food pyramid" sounded like reasonable sense, and could not see why it would be a poor diet to follow, and the reasoning behind it. Many will debunk other diets saying they are nothing like the food pyramid, as though it is the perfect healthy diet, and that it would be stupid to question it.

tallaght01

tallaght01 wrote: »

wikipedia indeed

anyway, if you're now saying that saturated fats in low quantities are fine, then I agree.

if you're still saying that det plays no part in high cholesterol, heart disease/stroke, then you're definitely wrong.

rubadub wrote: »

I would have presumed they were bad, it is drilled in by the media/marketing, and I could not see a reason to lie. This is why this thread surprised me
Coconut Oil- good choice?

Medium chain fatty acids are what they're talking about. In small doses they're fine. Some people are using them as weight loss agents, though. The problem with that is they can induce a ketogenic state, but we don't know what the results are long term.

The only study quoted on the other website about coconut oil is from the phillipines journal of cardiology!
I would also be wary of a website who are providing links to sites that say coconut oil may cure AIDS

The bad saturated fats are the long chain ones, that make up most of our saturated fat consumptin.

Tar.Aldarion

nibble wrote: »

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturated_fat
And Tar.Aldarion do you actually know people who genuinely led active lives with healthy diets that died because of high sat intake? And you know people that died of cancer from eating sat fat/red meat and actually have proof of that? Because I find that very hard to believe.

Both my grandfathers, they were active healthy farmer dudes.
That's not proof, that's just what they died from...

In that contrary study thing you mention from wiki it does say that switching from saturated fats to unsaturated lowers the risk of CHD.
I am not saying they are the devil, but people eat too much of them, and I think they die for it.

rubadub

tallaght01 wrote: »

The only study quoted on the other website about coconut oil is from the phillipines journal of cardiology!

Would you dismiss it since it is from the Phillipines? I know nothing of their "medical competence". It would make sense for a country whos population has this in their diet to test it. As I said in the other thread it was in a Filipino shop I had seen it.

tallaght01 wrote: »

I would also be wary of a website who are providing links to sites that say coconut oil may cure AIDS

I never spotted the links there. When I was searching the one place that did mention AIDS was the Irish VHI site, not saying it was a cure but used in treatment.

http://www2.vhi.ie/GetHerbContent.do?primerid=21809&name=Medium-Chain+Triglycerides

You probably have people in other countries dismissing Irish journals thinking we are all still picking spuds and living in shacks!

CerebralCortex

Both my grandparents were farmers and I wouldn't exactly associate farming with a healthy lifestyle tbh.

Tar.Aldarion

Well people live different lives, and do different things, getting up at 6am every day, and going for walks etc, that's pretty good for you.
Farming life does not make you healthy by default.

CerebralCortex

Tar.Aldarion wrote: »

Well people live different lives, and do different things, getting up at 6am every day, and going for walks etc, that's pretty good for you.
Farming life does not make you healthy by default.

Yes of course. But damn my grandparents were unhealthy and similarly my parents especially my mother are unhealthy. I guess my views are tainted by that.

Nordwind

Currently flicking through some of John Berardi's work folks and he mentions having an omlette in the morning with two cups of egg whites. That seems like an awful amount of eggs to me - anyone able to roughly guess how many eggs (medium let's say) it will take to fill two cups? I'm currently using the entire egg btw.

Thanks.

Nordwind

Anyone able to help?

Al_Fernz

I'd hazard a wild guess based on nothing at 8 large eggs.

Why not measure this yourself? Get a tray of eggs, egg white separator and a cup. Crack eggs until you have two cups and then make your omlette. No fuss no muss.

Nordwind

Where can I pick up a seperator?

Thanks.

Al_Fernz

Check out this thread! page 3 I think

g'em

Nordwind wrote: »

Where can I pick up a seperator?

You've already got two of them...

crotalus667

Nordwind wrote: »

Where can I pick up a seperator?

Thanks.

Most kitchen places do them but I would not bother they are useless

blah

How to sssSeparate an egg:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cm4U-kQhQ7s

d-gal

Wtih this whole discussion there is fairly basic answers...most of the fats are in the yolk hence why bodybuilders eat roughly 12 egg whites a day. And for the person who started the thread, if u are only willing to eat two eggs your wasting your time, thats only 12g of protein. If u want to build muscle u have to put on a lot of mass then do some cutting.
U can get plently of supplements that are liquid egg whites, i know ronnie coleman (former mr. olympia) is a great fan of them.
If you can't stand meat then it has to be supplements to get the required amount of protein, u should be getting at leat one gram of protien per pound of bodyweight throughout the day

mloc

Right.

Liquid egg whites are handy because of two things: they are pre-separated and you can drink them raw. Why can you drink them raw? Because they are pasteurised. Why does that matter? Because it kills off any dangerous bacteria, and perhaps more interestingly, it deactivates a protein present in raw eggs called Avidin. Avidin, to cut a long story short, drastically reduces the usefulness of the protein in raw eggs. Thus non-pasteurised raw eggs are pretty useless as a protein source.

As for whole eggs, do you have a cholesterol problem? No? Eat whole eggs. Do you have high cholesterol? Then just eat the whites. Cook them however you want, and eat them. If you dont eat meat, eat lots of them. Seriously. I would say at least 10 a day if you are only eating the whites. Thats only 30 or so grams of protein which for a day is not a whole lot.

Conclusion:

Eat lots of eggs, whatever kind you want. Just dont eat lots of raw, unpasteurised eggs.