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VTec Engines Overrated?

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    #122
    Biro
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,091 ✭✭✭Biro


    miss enzo wrote: »
    you obv havent hear a v6 fto at 4.5k/ 5.5k and 7.5k revs! there is NOTHIN like it! the noise has so many different tones and pitches! no honda would give u that kinda sound! believe me i have had MANY honda ppl tell me that its a CLASS sound!

    I'm not denying that the FTO sounds good. But I'm not giving an opinion here, I'm stating a fact. The NSX engine sounds far, far better than the FTO. It's THE best engine I've heard, bar none. Andrew Frankel of AutoCar has heard more engines than many of us put together, and he also shares this opinion.
    If you think I'm lying, find someone with an NSX, borrow it, let me drive and you sit in the passenger seat with your eyes closed.


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    #123
    Biro
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,091 ✭✭✭Biro


    miss enzo wrote: »
    i have driven an Sir prelude actually (i do believe thats one up from the type s) and i way prefer my FTO! the pick-up is WAY better in the Mitsi, the lude took WAY longer to get up thru the revs! if i couldnt for some reason have the fto id buy an s-type. id still pick the fto first tho, on styling, acceleration, and engine noise!

    SIR prelude? What year?


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    #124
    siralfalot
    Closed Accounts Posts: 447 ✭✭siralfalot


    man this is the funniest thread ever :D
    so many people on their high horses, Vtec, mivec, VVTI, all decent setups, at the end of the day its down to personal tastes


    as for the best sounding engine? it looks like no one here has ever heard an Arese Alfa V6 on full chat?:cool:
    link

    link


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    #125
    cpoh1
    Registered Users Posts: 1,605 ✭✭✭cpoh1


    Lads I have owned a typeR integra and typeS prelude and performance wise the FTO is not in either class, having been up against the FTO on track days in the uk. The FTO does sound better and is the mroe handsome car but talking performance alone the prelude and integra are both far superior to the v6 FTO.

    Just ask any of the FTO owners at the drag event in limerick a few years ago what car was quicker down the strip.


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    #126
    JHMEG
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,686 ✭✭✭JHMEG


    miss enzo wrote: »
    i have driven an Sir prelude actually (i do believe thats one up from the type s)
    No, the Type-S is the top of the range Prelude.

    I remember reading years ago that the reason Honda brought out the Integra-R was the FTO had stolen the crown from the 2.2 Prelude. The ITR stole it back again.

    As Biro says, the NSX is considered to be one of the best sounding cars ever. Car & Driver said it was only recently equalled by the Aston Martin Vanquish.


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    #127
    Biro
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,091 ✭✭✭Biro


    JHMEG wrote: »
    No, the Type-S is the top of the range Prelude.

    I remember reading years ago that the reason Honda brought out the Integra-R was the FTO had stolen the crown from the 2.2 Prelude. The ITR stole it back again.

    As Biro says, the NSX is considered to be one of the best sounding cars ever. Car & Driver said it was only recently equalled by the Aston Martin Vanquish.

    Yep, the SIR is actually 2 models down, there was an SIR-S with an LSD.


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    #128
    BM_318i
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17 ✭BM_318i


    --amadeus-- wrote: »
    A VTEC is NOT an engine. It is an engine technology, specifically it is a sophisticated valvetrain system designed to allow engineers to give an engine two otherwise conflicting personalities.

    So am I right in saying then that the VTEC system does not give you any extra power? It just makes a car that has performance cam's drive like an ordinary car at low speeds.

    Its a good and very clever system but in reality just make your car more econominical, not a performance weapon :rolleyes:

    So basically that means VTEC/MIVEC is for girls :p

    And on the sound of a VTEC engine, ever hear a 1.3 8v at 7400rpm, cause that sounds great too, along with most V6's mivec or not.



    VTEC is just a honda buzz word, its great, everybody has there own system now a days, get over it and move on.


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    #129
    Biro
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,091 ✭✭✭Biro


    BM_318i wrote: »
    So am I right in saying then that the VTEC system does not give you any extra power? It just makes a car that has performance cam's drive like an ordinary car at low speeds.

    Its a good and very clever system but in reality just make your car more econominical, not a performance weapon :rolleyes:

    So basically that means VTEC/MIVEC is for girls :p

    And on the sound of a VTEC engine, ever hear a 1.3 8v at 7400rpm, cause that sounds great too, along with most V6's mivec or not.



    VTEC is just a honda buzz word, its great, everybody has there own system now a days, get over it and move on.
    What a stupid post.


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    #130
    BM_318i
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17 ✭BM_318i


    Biro wrote: »
    What a stupid post.

    Why?

    You might want to not take the internet and every bit of my post so seriously ;)

    That is my understanding of VTEC anyway, you get the best of both worlds, ie. drivability at low speeds around town etc. and all out high reving powerful fun. Its just a system that facilitates this, the way some people talk about it is just silly ie. if its VTEC it must be quick.

    The origional point of this thread was the question Is VTEC over-rated. So yes, in my opinion it is.


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    #131
    Atomic Pineapple
    Registered Users Posts: 18,272 ✭✭✭✭Atomic Pineapple


    cant believe this thread hasn't been locked yet, its spiralled into nonsense so it has, filled with non truths and ridicolous opinions, I think all that has to be said on the matter has been said??


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    #132
    miss enzo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 244 ✭✭miss enzo


    Biro wrote: »
    SIR prelude? What year?

    cant remember it was a test drive my fiance wanted to buy it but didnt have 3rd party extension on his policy so i drove it. i can ask him later what year it was!

    JHMEG wrote: »
    No, the Type-S is the top of the range Prelude.
    my bad! not much of a honda head was obv misinformed somewhere along the line.
    cpoh1 wrote: »
    Just ask any of the FTO owners at the drag event in limerick a few years ago what car was quicker down the strip.

    i am one of those owners who drags in limeick :D what was the question again???? :p


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    #133
    miss enzo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 244 ✭✭miss enzo


    siralfalot wrote: »
    man this is the funniest thread ever :D
    so many people on their high horses, Vtec, mivec, VVTI, all decent setups, at the end of the day its down to personal tastes


    as for the best sounding engine? it looks like no one here has ever heard an Arese Alfa V6 on full chat?:cool:
    link

    link

    this is nicer!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgkHI-wlynk&feature=related

    and this

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-C6XOGYUxg&feature=related



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    #134
    msg11
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,572 ✭✭✭msg11


    BM_318i wrote: »
    Why?

    You might want to not take the internet and every bit of my post so seriously ;)

    That is my understanding of VTEC anyway, you get the best of both worlds, ie. drivability at low speeds around town etc. and all out high reving powerful fun. Its just a system that facilitates this, the way some people talk about it is just silly ie. if its VTEC it must be quick.

    The origional point of this thread was the question Is VTEC over-rated. So yes, in my opinion it is.

    Have to disagree with you there. You are getting yourself mixed up between, over-used and abuse which it is, as I said dohc , sohc vtec on every civic you see.

    How ever it is not over rated, as you get what was said on the tin. A good car management system, IE vtec, that can save you money on fuel. Therefore it is not over-rated because it is a good system and works.


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    #135
    BM_318i
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17 ✭BM_318i


    Ok, its an abused term then :D

    No denying its a very good system but people go on about it too much, people talk about it like its a turbo or something, its just not. Its the b16 etc. engines that are good.


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    #136
    JHMEG
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,686 ✭✭✭JHMEG


    BM 318i, a true enthusiast's car..


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    #137
    Biro
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,091 ✭✭✭Biro


    JHMEG wrote: »
    BM 318i, a true enthusiast's car..

    It's probably a touring too! :D


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    #138
    Steve
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 22,584 CMod ✭✭✭✭Steve


    Compare it to a bmw318i that turns into a 325i at 6000rpm.
    Is that BMish enough?


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    #139
    BM_318i
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17 ✭BM_318i


    Ah, are we getting personal now.......

    Sorry to inform ye but I don't drive a 318.
    I drive a 1.3 litre 106 :D Really a true enthusiast's car.


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    #140
    JHMEG
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,686 ✭✭✭JHMEG


    Can we take it that you aspire to a 318i?


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    #141
    BM_318i
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17 ✭BM_318i


    And why would I want to take such a step backwards?? The 106 was a large step up from a 318 ;)

    I aspired to one when I was 17 and my fathered owned it alright.......

    Are we having the "so what do you drive?" thing now then :rolleyes:


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    #142
    JHMEG
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,686 ✭✭✭JHMEG


    BM_318i wrote: »
    And why would I want to take such a step backwards?? :
    Why would you call yourself BM_318i then?


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    #143
    BM_318i
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17 ✭BM_318i


    Cause I joined about 2 years ago and that was the unfortunate name I ended up with.

    Can I ask. Is there a point to this?


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    #144
    Steve
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 22,584 CMod ✭✭✭✭Steve


    BM_318i wrote: »
    I aspired to one when I was 17 and my fathered owned it alright...

    And what would you aspire to when you turn 18? A 106 with a spoiler?


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    #145
    BM_318i
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17 ✭BM_318i


    stevec wrote: »
    And what would you aspire to when you turn 18? A 106 with a spoiler?

    I already have one :p

    2274498721_d759a039da.jpg

    Now can I ask, where is this going exactly?


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    #146
    JHMEG
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,686 ✭✭✭JHMEG


    BM_318i wrote: »
    Now can I ask, where is this going exactly?
    Does it have to be going anywhere?


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    #147
    Steve
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 22,584 CMod ✭✭✭✭Steve


    BM_318i wrote: »
    I already have one :p

    Now can I ask, where is this going exactly?
    Unless it's a 106 vtech / vtek / mivkec,
    wtf have you got to add to this thread?


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