Cheating in the Leaving Cert???

eoghan h

During the pres a large majority of my class cheated in the bathroom....

Sheets with formula's etc.....

What's there to stop people from doing this in the Leaving Cert???

It seems kinda pointless if people can just go to the toilet and have the answers in their pockets......

Alibear

Hmmm... I'd say some of the "supervisers" would cope on if you were going to the toilet quite a lot...

eoghan h

it only takes one toilet break to pull out a sheet with the necessary words for your essay/formula etc....

Kidd-o

nothing persay, but when i sat my leaving last year, the bathrooms were checked for books and stuff like that... but if your gonna have apage in your pocket nothing i guess...

i know when i sat mine a vast majority of people wrote formulas on the inside of their calculators, they got away with it, but you can be asked to show your stuff at any time...

dont risk it, not being able to sit a state exams for 5 years? madness

daggy

ok well i dont know about your school but my school had two supervisors, and each supervisor had two assistants. Whenever a student left for a bathroom break, they were accompanied by the assistant, who waited outside the door and time is taken upon exit and arrival so i don't think it would go unnoticed mate...

As im sure you know,cheating = banned from taking leaving cert for a good frigging few years! Two years ago a girl in my school was caught texting in her leaving. BIG deal.

meeka

daggy wrote: »

ok well i dont know about your school but my school had two supervisors, and each supervisor had two assistants. Whenever a student left for a bathroom break, they were accompanied by the assistant, who waited outside the door and time is taken upon exit and arrival so i don't think it would go unnoticed mate...

Ah I dunno, it don't think it's that strict in every school. Last year I did the attending in my school, and there were just the three of us (just having finished 5th year at the time).

The guys bathroom is just off the foyer, and since we were sitting in the foyer, we didn't need to escort them a few metres across the hall .. we were hardly going to follow them in! And for the girls bathroom, just one of us went with each girl at a time, but the invigilators seemed to be letting two or three girls go at once.

Also during the last couple of exams, the only invigilator remaining actually left the hall to go to the bathroom , and asked me to "stand at the door and keep an eye on them". Lol.

Maybe we were just too lax or something. But yeah, it definitely would be possible to cheat, if you really wanted. Definitely not worth the risk though, and uh.. morally wrong!

daggy

suppose it all depends on the school...but sure morality dictates the answer really lol.

Last year at my school, A girl in my class cheated the whole way through her leavin cert. She got caught on her very last exam.

The annoying thing is they only cancelled that exam.. She did sound without that one subject and is in college now.

Btw, the supervisors.. do not "cop on" .. All they do is sit there and drink tea.. Our one fell asleep.

eoghan h

we have the assistants thing too but their transition year students and they can't follow you into the cubicle...

As for time.......you felt sick

I don't plan on cheating but it seems too easy!

Overheal

Ava Adore that sounds stupid and ridiculous o_0 I would have flayed the bitch.

Cheating is all about your own morality but I will say I observed in both sittings that yes; there is the potential for bending the rules and it shows a serious failing on the DoE. I've considered a few, never carried them out either time on the fear of disqualification. Regret it? Only the first time around

All I can say is post all your little ideas so maybe some examiners will have a read and cop on to your ploys..

Cokehead Mother

I cut the quadratic formula into my arm for the junior cert maths exam. It served it's purpose admirably but I've constantly had to explain it to people over the last 2 years.

Cheating is bad.

kirving

Those sheets with the toilet times just get thrown in the bin, nothing is checked with them.

Also, cheating in the leaving is very possilbe, someone with an ipod touch could even go on the net in the bathrooms if they were quick! Although getting caught far outweighs any benefits. No exams for years?! You couldn't even take you driving test!

Overheal

Cokehead Mother wrote: »

I cut the quadratic formula into my arm for the junior cert maths exam. It served it's purpose admirably but I've constantly had to explain it to people over the last 2 years.

Cheating is bad.

pics or it didnt happen.

havent you heard of a pen? I mean... what?!

Surely at the cost of self mutilation I would have remembered x^2 + y + c = 0 :eek:

Robbo

Overheal wrote: »

Surely at the cost of self mutilation I would have remembered x^2 + y + c = 0 :eek:

Better get mutilating because you don't seem to have remembered it correctly...

Xavi6

I cheated my arse off for all my exams; summer, Christmas, state, college. It's amazing how great little postits can be when it comes to holding info. All it takes is one word to jog a memory and it worked for me.

I'm not saying what I did was right but I'm not ashamed of it either. If you're prepared for the consequences then go for it but don't go crying if you get caught.

EamonnKeane

Keep your notes in a lunchbox in the toilet cistern.

Kidd-o

some schools check those...

Yuugib

u could always write them on the private parts of the body, i mean who on earth is going to check it in the exam?

But in my case it better to pass the reall thing with dignity
havent cheated at all before.. well exept kind of looked at the info of what was comming up in the mocks, but still studied as much as usually did

in the end if u dont do as good as u hoped, mabe u ll be better off in life then.. who knows

spinandscribble

i can think of loads of way to cheat. putting notes in your underwear (seriously who's going to check?). personally i havnt cheated since 1st class when i wrote a spelling on my rubber im so ashamed of myself. would never do it again, i couldnt live with myself.
anyway when i was a supervisors assistant the students would as me questions every time i brought them to the bathroom. thankfully it always science questions and i hadnt a clue!

eoghan h

if ya really wanted to cheat ya could have a full scanned copy of the book on your ipod.....

I can't see how you can get caught if you cheat in the toilets....

carving the formula on your arm was stupid......By the time you had finished carving the -b formula you probably had already memorised it

If they cheat and then go on to college they will more than likely fail and drop out.

Fad

i was an ''assistant'' last year, and theres really fuck all that you can do, sure you could report them but why would i bother, im getting paid to sit around and play playstation why would i want to get into all the hassle of ratting someone out

(also the 6th years who were cheating were fecking HUGE)

Da Bomber

An easy way is to prerecord english essays and stuff on your ipod,put the earphone up your sleeve then lie on your hand when your doing the exam,it would be pefect for history and stuff. Never tried it but i know a guy who did it a few years ago in the leavin and it worked like a charm.

However i don't condone cheating;)

Overheal

Robbo wrote: »

Better get mutilating because you don't seem to have remembered it correctly...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quadratic_equation

I'm so far beyond A and B at this stage I program 3d physics simulations - your pencil pushing is meaningless to me mwahaha so yeah a slip-up but im sorry why did you need to cut the quadratic form into your arm? Thats just ****ed up: have you seen a professional?

Fad wrote: »

i was an ''assistant'' last year, and theres really fuck all that you can do, sure you could report them but why would i bother, im getting paid to sit around and play playstation why would i want to get into all the hassle of ratting someone out

(also the 6th years who were cheating were fecking HUGE)

take bribes.

Xhristy

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Xavi6

Myth wrote: »

If they cheat and then go on to college they will more than likely fail and drop out.

Not me. I've got my nice degree in Journalism and Media Communications.

Xavi6

Xavi6 wrote: »

Not me. I've got my nice degree in Journalism and Media Communications.

Yup. And for every one...

irish_boy90

personally i write everything i need to know on a sheet and look at it before they give me my paper.

Once they are just about to hand it to you, Throw it into your bag and write everything on it on the sheet as fast as you can before you forget it.

Was reading the guide to better grades on my papers the other day and saw it actually said that lol.

If there is anything I really don't know I make the effort to focus on it when I study, so I have never really needed to cheat.

Robbo

Overheal wrote: »

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quadratic_equation

I'm so far beyond A and B at this stage I program 3d physics simulations - your pencil pushing is meaningless to me mwahaha so yeah a slip-up but im sorry why did you need to cut the quadratic form into your arm? Thats just ****ed up: have you seen a professional?



take bribes.

If you go back to the OP, you'll see it was the quadratic formula not a quadratic equation.

Fad

Overheal wrote: »

take bribes.

id love to but, the thing is i was working for the department of education, and having not yet sat my leaving cert i dont think itd be a good idea to get on their bad side!:p

Killaqueen!!!

Yeah, I really can't see them checking your iPod as you go in (unless you're told to empty your pockets and your not allowed anything in - dunno how this works I'm in 5th year). But I've done the whole earphone down your sleeve thing (just for listening to music in class) and it could work. But supervisors would probably notice and you'd have to have it on really low volume.

I think supervisors are the same for each exam so if you went to the toilet even just once per exam they'd be a tad suspicious..? That said, they can't follow you into the cubicle, where you can look at notes on iPod etc.