Petr Cechs helmet

smok

Does anyone know if Cech is still wearing the helmet for medical purposes or is it just psychological purposes?
I think it gives him an advantage over other keepers.

Melion

Why would it give him an advantage? I think it would hinder him more than anything

gucci

Dunno why he wears gloves either the big sissy.

PauloMN

What are you doing looking at Petr Cech's helmet anyway? :eek:

smok

Melion wrote: »

Why would it give him an advantage? I think it would hinder him more than anything

Psychologically a ref wont allow a player to get near him. It also means an opponent will remember the horrible injury he suffered and not fully commit to a 50 50 like he would against another keeper.
I dont think he should be allowed to wear it!

Melion

smok wrote: »

Psychologically a ref wont allow a player to get near him. It also means an opponent will remember the horrible injury he suffered and not fully commit to a 50 50 like he would against another keeper.
I dont think he should be allowed to wear it!

Players arent allowed go near keepers nowadays anyway, its a joke.

leninbenjamin

when did he come back after the injury? wasn't he instructed to wear it for 18 months or around that? impact wise it's nothing more than a scrumcap with extra padding... i dunno if that would offer much protection if he were to get a serious impact on it again.

FatherTed

Another player, Alecko Eskandarian who received a number of concussions now wears a helmet too:
http://redbull.newyork.mlsnet.com/images/2006/12/22/CbKoeW66.jpg

You can buy them here http://www.full90.com/showcase/full90_premier.asp

Helix

didnt the specialists say cech had to wear that for the rest of his career

jameshayes

Helix wrote: »

didnt the specialists say cech had to wear that for the rest of his career

This is what I remember too...

Mr Alan

no i'm pretty sure, the specialists said no such thing.

justfortherecor

Ya, I think he suffered a fracture in a part of his skull and its a particularly vulnerable place to injury. Doctors suggested he wear the headgear to give extra protection I think.

Anyone recall whether he got a metal plate inserted in his skull?

Edit: According to Wikipedia: "In spite of the considerable time lapsed since the injury, Čech has continued to wear the headguard owing to a weaker than normal bone stucture in his skull, a product of him being one of triplets. He will almost certainly wear it for the remainder of his career"

~Rebel~

triplets? might be worth a punt signing the other two!

pd101

Mr Alan wrote: »

no i'm pretty sure, the specialists said no such thing.

I heard that he was going to wear it for the rest of his career too, but I thought Cech said it himself.

String

its just smart. wear it and less chance him getting a long term injury.....

Nunu

smok wrote: »

Does anyone know if Cech is still wearing the helmet for medical purposes or is it just psychological purposes?
I think it gives him an advantage over other keepers.

Cech is out tonight with a late mystery injury...he must know you're on to him:D

~Rebel~

Nunu wrote: »

Cech is out tonight with a late mystery injury...he must know you're on to him:D

ah bollox he's my keeper on fantasy champions league!

iregk

The reason he is still wearing it is two fold.

1) he is a tripplet and has a thinner than normal frontal cranium and so even without the stevie hunt injury would suffer more than normal from an impact in that spot.

2) they said at the time in 18 months he could remove it but best give it 2 years due to second hit syndrome. This is where a second impact in the same place can cause the brain to effectively shut down.

He didn't have any cranium plates inserted however the headgear does have a plastic reinforcement piece right where the impact was. He will most likely wear it for the rest of his career and word is FIFA are considering making them mandatory for all keepers in the coming years. I read that last piece in Chelsea magazine about 6 months back.

TwoShedsJackson

smok wrote: »

Does anyone know if Cech is still wearing the helmet for medical purposes or is it just psychological purposes?
I think it gives him an advantage over other keepers.

What advantage does it give him?

~Rebel~

TwoShedsJackson wrote: »

What advantage does it give him?

smok wrote: »

Psychologically a ref wont allow a player to get near him. It also means an opponent will remember the horrible injury he suffered and not fully commit to a 50 50 like he would against another keeper.
I dont think he should be allowed to wear it!

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Dont necessarily agree, I think if he wants to wear exra head protection, let him.

grames_bond

leninbenjamin wrote: »

? impact wise it's nothing more than a scrumcap with extra padding... i dunno if that would offer much protection if he were to get a serious impact on it again.

its not even....it's just a scrumcap, a plain and simple, cantebury of new zeland, scrumcap!

Helix

smok wrote: »

Psychologically a ref wont allow a player to get near him. It also means an opponent will remember the horrible injury he suffered and not fully commit to a 50 50 like he would against another keeper.
I dont think he should be allowed to wear it!

thats a load of nonsense

kev_s88

its like Magneto's helmet in X-Men.it gives him telekinetic powers that he uses to disrupt the opposition play*











*may not be true

Dave!

I thought he just wears it cos it looks cool.......



Gonna have to order me one of those bad boys

iregk

grames_bond wrote: »

its not even....it's just a scrumcap, a plain and simple, cantebury of new zeland, scrumcap!

Wrong.

It was a canterbury cap then adidas got the hump with him wearing other manufactures clothing so they made their own. Either way both the canterbury and adidas ones had and have a plastic reinforcement plate at the front. Just where the point of impact was.

smok

Helix wrote: »

thats a load of nonsense

No its not!
Everytime a player goes near him John Terry and his army of chelsea boys march up to the opposition player and give him what for!
Cech gets favouritism from the refs over this I think as well.
Next time Cech goes in for a one on one watch the forward back off - happens more often than not!
If he isnt fit to play with his skull as it is then he shouldnt be playing ... his life should not be allowed to be put at risk. How can a tiny bit of foam replace a skull?

Having said that if all keepers are ALLOWED to wear that skull cap then its fair!

grames_bond

smok wrote: »

No its not!
Everytime a player goes near him John Terry and his army of chelsea boys march up to the opposition player and give him what for!!

lets be honest, it would be the same if a player goes near ANY other chelsea player! im sick of chelsea for it!

Keano

grames_bond wrote: »

its not even....it's just a scrumcap, a plain and simple, cantebury of new zeland, scrumcap!

For weeks sky sports went on about the special helmet he had to where then we I seen it I was like it is a scrum cap people!

astrofool

smok wrote: »

Having said that if all keepers are ALLOWED to wear that skull cap then its fair!

I don't think there's a rule against them, they can wear a cap after all?

As for psychology, will anyone be afraid to tackle Alan Smith due to his broken leg, Rooney due to his metatarsel, etc.

Bobalicious93

astrofool wrote: »

I don't think there's a rule against them, they can wear a cap after all?

As for psychology, will anyone be afraid to tackle Alan Smith due to his broken leg, Rooney due to his metatarsel, etc.

there's a difference between Rooney/Smith and Cech, they weren't knocked unconscious with their lives at risk.

Helix

smok wrote: »

Having said that if all keepers are ALLOWED to wear that skull cap then its fair!

theres no rule stopping keepers wearing them, its just that other keepers dont have fragile skulls and probably wouldnt die if they didnt wear one and got a whallop in the wrong place

as mentioned, you see them wearing caps to block the sun, that gives them an advantage too, shall we ban that?

super_furry

Can I just say that everytime I see the thread title on the front page, I laugh.

FatherTed

Is this what the world is coming to?
http://www.ericmcerlain.com/offwingopinion/archives/Images/helmet.jpg

Keano

FatherTed wrote: »

Is this what the world is coming to?
http://www.ericmcerlain.com/offwingopinion/archives/Images/helmet.jpg

That has got to be in America...?

Sherifu

lollers @ the pic

Keano A Legend wrote: »

That has got to be in America...?

It says san diego on the jersey...

cournioni

TwoShedsJackson wrote: »

What advantage does it give him?

He can use it like that guy with the steal head in Mr Nanny...

~Rebel~

astrofool wrote: »

I don't think there's a rule against them, they can wear a cap after all?

As for psychology, will anyone be afraid to tackle Alan Smith due to his broken leg, Rooney due to his metatarsel, etc.

I think the OP's point isn't that he had an injury, its that he has a very obvious reminder of that injury. For example (extreme) if Alan Smith was out there with a cast around his leg it would cause people to be wary.



IMO, if he wants to wear it, conscious of the injury etc, thats totally grand, leave him off. But if he Needs to wear it, he shouldn't be on the pitch.

iregk

~Rebel~ wrote:

But if he Needs to wear it, he shouldn't be on the pitch

So all the players down the years who have worn face guards after fractured cheeks, Maldini, Shevchekno, Mijhalovic to name but 3. Should they not have been on the pitch?

Should Cantona not have been on the pitch when he broke his wrist and wore a cast.

I have to wear a big ankle support when I play, its not a choice, should I not be on the pitch?

Essentially what your saying is if you have to wear anything thats not boots, shin pads or the kit then you shouldn't be on the pitch!

~Rebel~

FatherTed wrote: »

Is this what the world is coming to?
http://www.ericmcerlain.com/offwingopinion/archives/Images/helmet.jpg

oh dear god those poor kids, they never had a chance..

~Rebel~

iregk wrote: »

So all the players down the years who have worn face guards after fractured cheeks, Maldini, Shevchekno, Mijhalovic to name but 3. Should they not have been on the pitch?

Should Cantona not have been on the pitch when he broke his wrist and wore a cast.

I have to wear a big ankle support when I play, its not a choice, should I not be on the pitch?

Essentially what your saying is if you have to wear anything thats not boots, shin pads or the kit then you shouldn't be on the pitch!

looking at the protection he's wearing and looking at the problem, if that cap is the only thing stopping him suffering a brain injury in the event of a clash he probably shouldn't be playing. But i doubt it is, i assume its a precautionary measure.

I just think thats the one area of the body that shouldn't be put in any degree of risk, especially for a keeper who has quite a decent chance of a clash of heads. Also if his condition were serious enough to NEED the cap, then being shaken around etc is probably not a good idea. Its different to other injuries, with your ankle for instance its the ankle bone being protected, whats important here is thats inside which can be very sensitive be extreme movement etc ( the damage to the brain is often done by the inner wall of the skull from a hard impact to the outside). But as i said, im sure none of this is the case, he's pretty much grand and its just purely precautionary and he'd be fine without it.