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Utd,Pool,Arse, Chel. CL expectations poll
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Ok then even the only time we've met you in a cup since Rafa arrived. WE WON.
Ferguson changes his tactics all the time for Europe, i think it'd be the same playing us, although the main difference would be how much better we play in the CL
Right
Hope we get you in QF
If we do this thread is getting bookmarked
Actually that's a lie, hope Inter smash ye up next week
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Archimedes wrote: »Mr Alan, why are you so sure that Benitez' record in Europe overwrites Fergies record against Benitez?
With the exception of the OT game last season, i have seen nothing from Utd in their games against us to be afraid of in the last couple of seasons.
If i take my fan hat off for a minute, i will say Utd are a far superior team over the course of a season, no denying that.
Over two games in Europe though? they dont scare me anymore than Barca did last year when we beat em, or than Chelsea did in 2005, or than Juventus did in 2005.
they may well win and of course we would be the underdogs, but those who don't respect Rafa and his achievements in Europe and the way he gets us playing in Europe, do so at their own perilPSI: Las Vegas wrote: »[moderator hat off] Look, Mr. Alan, honestly, as much as you love Liverpool, your mindless propaganda spouting isn't actually discussion.
Every post I see from you reads : [cartman]"Waaaaaaaah but Liverpool are greeeaaaat[/cartman] and doesn't actually constitute discussion in any credible or intelligent sense of the word.
The fact of the matter is, Liverpool are probably 5th favourites of the teams left. As good as they have been in the CL in recent years, the fact remains that they are a far inferior team to United, Arsenal, Chelsea and Barca. The records this season show that.
They *may* raise their game against United but although they've done it against Chelsea in recent CL years, they were very uninspiring and Mourhino's tactics helped them.
So yeah, supprot your team, talk up their chances, but for god sake talk at least a bit of sense and facilitate some discussion.
[moderator hat on]
PSI-keep that mod hat on! read my points above
And Tusky, I agree, Inter aint nearly out of it yet.0 -
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As said before, Man U v Liverpool. At any stage (I was half wanting them to win the other night just to see the grudge match)
Man U take lead from a Ronaldo dive/penalty.
93rd minute equaliser by Torres.
Man U comprehensively beaten on penos, with 3 saves from Reina.
Either that or a horrendous 4-0 thrashing in Old Trafford (Ive been hitting the LSD heavy).0 -
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Yea, Liverpool fans are smug, check out the poll results
I dont take any notice of polls, I just read the posts
The more i come on here the more i think it'd be better if the 2 sets of fans were kept in entirely different forums, I mean NOTHIN can be discussed ehre without someone havin a go, and then 20 people havin handbags with their "we" are better than "you" bull, its a joke.0 -
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Because these are Continental teams.
Wrong Desmond, its because Ferguson thinks that in order to win the CL, you need to play with 1 up top, he has proven this by defying all his critics and doing it all the time Europe. I'd be willing to bet he'll do the same against us if we beat Inter and draw Utd.
Note: i am not ACTUALLY willing to bet, i already have lost enough bets this season 0 -
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Wrong Desmond, its because Ferguson thinks that in order to win the CL, you need to play with 1 up top, he has proven this by defying all his critics and doing it all the time Europe. I'd be willing to bet he'll do the same against us if we beat Inter and draw Utd.
Note: i am not ACTUALLY willing to bet, i already have lost enough bets this season
you are actually becoming pathetic, ok so, a manger who has been in a job pretty successfully for 20 years doesnt know how to adapt or change? really, listen to yourself sometimes
he thinks an anchorman in midfield is required for some teams, he doesnt feel that way about Liverpool, that is quite obvius at this stage so why would anyone think he will use one! cept you, who lives in his own world of course:)0 -
Wrong Desmond, its because Ferguson thinks that in order to win the CL, you need to play with 1 up top, he has proven this by defying all his critics and doing it all the time Europe. I'd be willing to bet he'll do the same against us if we beat Inter and draw Utd.
Note: i am not ACTUALLY willing to bet, i already have lost enough bets this season
Actually United havent played an English team in the CL yet so it remains to be seen what tactics Fergie would use. But even in the bigger games domestically he tends to lean towards 4-5-10 -
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Personally I still think Fergie will change his tactics if he meets Liverpool in the CL. Not because it's Europe, but because its two legs. Still he won't change them as much. Liverpool as a team Fergie knows how to beat.
They beat us once in what happened to be a cup competition. We beat them the previous month. Why? Because those games were close. To actually suggest that there was a magical factor that Benetiz is better in cups is just retarded. Now the 2 legged thing will make a difference, no doubt about that, but it wouldn't be as much as against a European team, so if you gave me the choice of Liverpool or Barca, I'd pick Liverpool.
Thing about it is, its a cup competition, so I firmly believe any of the top 5 could win it. That said, I'd still prefer to play the weaker team. Liverpool are an inferior side to the other top 4.
[From this point on, if you're a committed Liverpool fan, I'd recommend you don't read]
Good goalkeeper
Young CB who is prone to defensive errors because he is still learning [See Drogba]
Average fullbacks [used to be a great one, but Finnan seems to be gone now
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Top class central midfield
Crap wingers
Top class striker
However, because you won't be able to spread the play due to your crap wingers, Hargreaves should be able to deal with Gerrard and Torres is up against the one defender in the league who beats him for pace.
The thing about Liverpool is, Fergies away tactics actually work against you. We won a tactical victory over you in the last game, restricted you to nutty long shots, let you have lots of possession, as the home team in Europe always does, then executed a class smash and grab against you.
Crazy thing is, exact same thing happened last year. I think Fergies got Rafa's tactical number
Obviously you are gona point out to the year before, where in Anfield you got a 0-0 draw against us and a 1-0 in the cup, what I'd say to that is that Richardson and Smith played in the first match, Richardson and Brown(instead of Ferdinand) played in the second.
Ultimately though, Fergie has Rafa's tactical number. Liverpool 'dominated' the games for the last two years at Anfield, but had little to no decent chances on goal. I hate Fergie's away tactics, the smash and grab ****s up so many times it's unreal, but for some reason, it works against you guys As for us at home, we beat you 2-0 at a canter last year, and I don't think much will change this year.
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Now I'm not saying Liverpool don't have a great shot at beating anyone, including United, but because of these reasons, I'd prefer to get Liverpool than Arsenal, Chelsea, Barca. But obviously I'd prefer to get the other 3 more than you.0 -
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