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  • 06-03-2008 5:31pm
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    RedRag
    Registered Users Posts: 86 ✭✭


    Hey was thinking of changing car soon wouldn't spend more than €12 grand tho. what would you recommend in a diesel, must be powerful. Was thinking of A4 or Passat both 1.9 TDI. Any ideas?


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    siralfalot
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    RedRag wrote: »
    Hey was thinking of changing car soon wouldn't spend more than €12 grand tho. what would you recommend in a diesel, must be powerful. Was thinking of A4 or Passat both 1.9 TDI. Any ideas?

    ehhhhh, whats your opinions on Italian cars?........;)


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    RedRag
    Registered Users Posts: 86 ✭✭RedRag


    As long as its reliable country of origin doesn't bother me, I like italian cars bar Fiat.


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    cashmni1
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    is the 12k including the trade in or straight purchase price?
    VW cars overrated but engiines are great alright. TDI is out on its own, but the rest of the car isn't a patch on a Mondeo or a 406 for steering, brakes and suspension.
    Alfa is a good option second hand. The jtd is a belter too.


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    siralfalot
    Closed Accounts Posts: 447 ✭✭siralfalot


    RedRag wrote: »
    As long as its reliable country of origin doesn't bother me, I like italian cars bar Fiat.

    Alfa 156 2.4JTD just as reliable as any VW diesel, way more powerfull than any VW diesel

    2nd shameless plug today!! :D:p


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    prospect
    Registered Users Posts: 4,791 ✭✭✭prospect


    Well, if reliability is your main concern, I would steer away from VW & Audi.

    http://www.carzone.ie/used-cars/Toyota/Avensis/2.0-D/958626/

    http://www.carzone.ie/used-cars/Mazda/Mazda6/2.0-TDI/951939/


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    cashmni1
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    prospect wrote: »
    Well, if reliability is your main concern, I would steer away from VW & Audi.

    http://www.carzone.ie/used-cars/Toyota/Avensis/2.0-D/958626/

    http://www.carzone.ie/used-cars/Mazda/Mazda6/2.0-TDI/951939/

    The daelers don't half know how to chrage, wow, 13k for a 5 year old car with 130,000 miles done !!


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    cashmni1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 629 ✭✭✭cashmni1


    siralfalot wrote: »
    Alfa 156 2.4JTD just as reliable as any VW diesel, way more powerfull than any VW diesel

    2nd shameless plug today!! :D:p
    That is a lovely car alright !!
    Are you the seller?


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    prospect
    Registered Users Posts: 4,791 ✭✭✭prospect


    cashmni1 wrote: »
    The daelers don't half know how to chrage, wow, 13k for a 5 year old car with 130,000 miles done !!

    Yeah, I was just looking for pictures really.
    I reckon 9.5K cash would have that Avensis in a snap.


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    RedRag
    Registered Users Posts: 86 ✭✭RedRag


    Realistically looking for something 2.0 or less. Reliability is not my main concern, it must look good also. I like the Mazda, but even though the avensis would be a great car i think its a bit bland. Thanks for responses tho.


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    siralfalot
    Closed Accounts Posts: 447 ✭✭siralfalot


    cashmni1 wrote: »
    That is a lovely car alright !!
    Are you the seller?

    yeah, sure am, I'm a bit peeved at having to sell it, but building my new house is a tad more important (or so the wife to be tells me!!)


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    JHMEG
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,686 ✭✭✭JHMEG


    siralfalot wrote: »
    2nd shameless plug today!![/URL] :D:p
    What's the story with that wheel arch kit - I don't see any others with it? Is it aftermarket?


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    siralfalot
    Closed Accounts Posts: 447 ✭✭siralfalot


    JHMEG wrote: »
    What's the story with that wheel arch kit - I don't see any others with it? Is it aftermarket?

    no its the factory kit, it was an optional extra on 156 cars

    it can be fitted aftermarket if you want to spend €2.5 - €3k doing it :eek:


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    GERMAN ROCKS
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,796 ✭✭✭GERMAN ROCKS


    my choice would be
    1st peugeot 406
    2nd vw passat
    3rd citroen c5
    all very big comfortable cars and very reliable


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    groupb
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    prospect wrote: »
    Well, if reliability is your main concern, I would steer away from VW & Audi.

    http://www.carzone.ie/used-cars/Toyota/Avensis/2.0-D/958626/

    http://www.carzone.ie/used-cars/Mazda/Mazda6/2.0-TDI/951939/

    Or if you've any interest in driving.
    BTW Siralfalot sacrifice the new kitchen and keep that Alfa.
    OP surely having seen that Alfa , you've given up any thoughts of buying the VAG white goods.


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    colm_mcm
    Registered Users Posts: 73,455 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    GERMAN ROCKS wrote: »
    my choice would be
    1st peugeot 406
    2nd vw passat
    3rd citroen c5
    all very big comfortable cars and very reliable

    Are you on drugs :eek: ?


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    E92
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,147 ✭✭✭E92


    The Toyota and the Mazda would be an excellent choice for the OP. They would be my choices too. Even with that kind of mileage, being diesels and Japanese, I would expect that you could easily put on double the mileage currently on them provided they are serviced properly. Look after the car and it will reward you.

    I wouldn't be keen on that Avensis though. For a start, the seller says it's the Strata model(it's not, it's the entry level Aura), and the car kit suggests to me this is an ex company car, which probably means it's had a hard life(though company cars also mean 99% of the time a car with Full Service History), though being a Toyota it can deal with it a lot better than most other cars can.


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    groupb
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    colm_mcm wrote: »
    Are you on drugs :eek: ?

    You're right .
    The passats an overatted bucket of S...te.


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    colm_mcm
    Registered Users Posts: 73,455 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    E92 wrote: »
    I wouldn't be keen on that Avensis though. For a start, the seller says it's the Strata model(it's not, it's the entry level Aura)

    Well spotted. though it has had the correct alloy wheels and front foglights added to it. the only thing missing is the rear electric windows.


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    meathstevie
    Registered Users Posts: 4,772 ✭✭✭meathstevie


    Buy a german ( including skoda ) or a jap


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    E92
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,147 ✭✭✭E92


    groupb wrote: »
    You're right .
    The passats an overatted bucket of S...te.

    In YOUR opinion. It is a completely overrated car for reliability anyway though, IMO:D.


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    groupb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 542 ✭✭✭groupb


    Does that mean you agree with me?


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    #23
    Timmaay
    Registered Users Posts: 11,394 ✭✭✭✭Timmaay


    The A4 1.9tdi is a lovely car, a little overpriced maybe but it holds it's value very well. Just make sure its a 130bhp, and you might have to consider picking one up from the north/uk if you want a few extras.


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    GERMAN ROCKS
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    colm_mcm wrote: »
    Are you on drugs :eek: ?

    no fortunately im not. but i genuinly think these 3 look much better than any any avensis or 6 or accord but that just MY OPINION


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    bazz26
    Registered Users Posts: 51,243 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    Alfa Romeo 156 1.9 diesel:
    http://www.carzone.ie/used-cars/Alfa-Romeo/156/1.9-16V/961943/


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    L1011
    Registered Users Posts: 68,812 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    RedRag wrote: »
    As long as its reliable country of origin doesn't bother me, I like italian cars bar Fiat.

    Which would be? Fiat Group SPA own effectively all the rest :D


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    Redsoxfan
    Registered Users Posts: 5,325 ✭✭✭Redsoxfan


    bazz26 wrote: »
    Alfa Romeo 156 1.9 diesel:
    http://www.carzone.ie/used-cars/Alfa-Romeo/156/1.9-16V/961943/

    That's a sweet car, especially if it is indeed the Ti version-shame there's no pictures of the interior. The 156 facelift is a rare enough car on the roads as well.


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    bazz26
    Registered Users Posts: 51,243 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    Redsoxfan wrote: »
    That's a sweet car, especially if it is indeed the Ti version-shame there's no pictures of the interior. The 156 facelift is a rare enough car on the roads as well.

    It does have the Ti 17" alloys, side skirts and Ti badges on the side wings just below the indicator, so I would image it's the real McCoy.


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    groupb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 542 ✭✭✭groupb


    Timmaay wrote: »
    The A4 1.9tdi is a lovely car, a little overpriced maybe but it holds it's value very well. Just make sure its a 130bhp, and you might have to consider picking one up from the north/uk if you want a few extras.

    A very average car that happens to have the "right badge" to some people.
    What makes it "lovely"? The handling and ride are light years behind the likes of a 3 series or mondeo. Its cramped inside and if you go by any of the reliability surveys its sure to break down.


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    E92
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,147 ✭✭✭E92


    The A4 is a very comfortable motor to travel in(rides well, has nice firm German seats, is quiet) and feels extremely solid inside(dunno what it's like to drive though), but the 2.0 petrol sounds horrible at low revs, as if it's a paraffin stove, I know that.

    @groupb: I agree that the Passat is over rated(I'm thinking of reliability in particular), but I don't think it's a "bucket of sh1te" either;)!


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    groupb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 542 ✭✭✭groupb


    i've had an A4 and a passat - never again. If Hoover made cars they would be like the A4. White goods on wheels. If you just want transport these cars are fine , but if you enjoy driving they should'nt even be on your radar.


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