Importing from China- tax, duties?

RUDOLF289

kvitalij82 wrote: »

Hi All.

Maybe someone could help me. I want to order x50 units of small wooden (1GB) USB flash drives from China
x50 units - 240 EU
Delivery - 65 EU
No insurance.

How do I calculate extras? VAT or stamp duty.
They weight is very small.
Any hidden extras I should know off

Thank you in advance for all your help.

Tried ringing revenue but office for stamp duty is closed till Monday.

Cheers.
Vitalij

Hello Vitalij,

A couple of things.

On imports from outside the EU there are generally two outlays to Revenue ;

1. Import Duty (Stamp duty deals with property)
2. Value Added Tax

USB Flash drives attract no import duty, they are rated as 0%
VAT is charged @ 23% over the value of the goods plus the delivery.

Depending on the courier making the delivery, they may charge a processing fee for paying revenue on your behalf and collect the charges paid to Revenue on delivery. That would be in the order of 10 to 15 euro

It is important that the shipment is accompanied by a commercial invoice that clearly shows the value of the goods and the delivery cost, e.g. Carriage Paid To (CPT) Incoterms.

Trust this assists ?

Cheers,
Rudolf289

irishlass89

Hi,
I was wondering if anyone could help. I am looking at ordering 12 artificial cherry blossom trees that are 4ft in height and 70-90cm in width? I have been quoted 645USD for the products, 107USD for fumigation fees and 323USD for shipment by sea which will take 40 days. They said it will cover shipping cost and customs charge in China. Is this all I need to see about and how can I calculate any tax or fees I need to pay when they arrive in Ireland? They said there will be two cartons, 140x40x40. Really appreciate any help.
Thank you.

andrewfaulk

irishlass89 wrote: »

Hi,
I was wondering if anyone could help. I am looking at ordering 12 artificial cherry blossom trees that are 4ft in height and 70-90cm in width? I have been quoted 645USD for the products, 107USD for fumigation fees and 323USD for shipment by sea which will take 40 days. They said it will cover shipping cost and customs charge in China. Is this all I need to see about and how can I calculate any tax or fees I need to pay when they arrive in Ireland? They said there will be two cartons, 140x40x40. Really appreciate any help.
Thank you.

What terms are you buying under from your supplier, you said delivery by sea but is that to Dublin(CFR) or to your door(DAP or DDP).. without that info it's difficult to say what else is going to be payable

RUDOLF289

irishlass89 wrote: »

Hi,
I was wondering if anyone could help. I am looking at ordering 12 artificial cherry blossom trees that are 4ft in height and 70-90cm in width? I have been quoted 645USD for the products, 107USD for fumigation fees and 323USD for shipment by sea which will take 40 days. They said it will cover shipping cost and customs charge in China. Is this all I need to see about and how can I calculate any tax or fees I need to pay when they arrive in Ireland? They said there will be two cartons, 140x40x40. Really appreciate any help.
Thank you.

Hello Irishlass89,

First of all, I would be very careful. To allow the Chinese supplier make the shipping arrangements has the potential of being landed with a lot of charges on arrival. I have posted on this before, if you search for the terms : China Import Service fee you will see some of the pitfalls that people have encountered.

You would need to check with your Chinese supplier what the charges are on arrival in Ireland. That way you have a total picture. My concern is that the arrival costs will be very high. Also, once the shipment is en route there is no mitigation or negotiaton possible.

I would query the fumigation charges. Is there any wood in the shipment ? If so, is it absolutely neccessary that the wood travels to Ireland? Shipments containing wood run the risk of additional inspections at the Border Post, which would lead to delays and additional costs.

Have you checked the rate of duty payable ? In addition to Duty you are also liable to VAT @ 23% over the cost of the product, plus the shipping costs plus the duty. If you are registered for VAT you will be able to claim back the VAT paid on imports through your periodic VAT return.

In order to get the customs tariff nr and rate of duty I would suggest to contact the Customs Classification unit in Nenagh ; https://www.revenue.ie/en/contact-us/customs-ports-and-airports/customs-division.aspx

My recommendation always is to take charge of the shipping process by dealing through an Irish based freight forwarder. I would recommend that you agree FCA (Free Carrier) Incoterms with your supplier. In accordance with FCA terms your supplier will need to deliver to the depot of your nominated agent and arrange / pay for the export customs formalities. In order to get quotations for the freight the following additional information is required.

- Port of shipment in China
- weight of the shipment
- place of delivery in Ireland

I can assist you with securing quotations for the transportation based on the info you posted plus the additional information as per above. Once you have the customs tariff nr I can also work out the cost for Duty and / or VAT.

Feel free to postr again or PM me.

Cheers,
Rudolf289

irishlass89

They quoted me $323 for shipment by sea (about 40 days) and quoted me $1048 for shipment door to door. Is this any more help? Thanks for your reply.

irishlass89

Hi Andrew, thank you so much for this detailed reply. I have never done this so want to make sure I am going about it the right way. I have been quoted $323 for shipment by sea (40 days) and $1048 door to door (about 7 days). I would really appreciate your help with quotations. I will give the revenue a ring tomorrow after I get the answers regarding weight etc. Thank you so much for your help.

andrewfaulk

irishlass89 wrote: »

Hi Andrew, thank you so much for this detailed reply. I have never done this so want to make sure I am going about it the right way. I have been quoted $323 for shipment by sea (40 days) and $1048 door to door (about 7 days). I would really appreciate your help with quotations. I will give the revenue a ring tomorrow after I get the answers regarding weight etc. Thank you so much for your help.

Hi Irish lass

I think your getting me and Rudolf mixed up, I was only asking your terms so I could help give you a guide on costs.. I won't be quoting on this one but from what I know Rudolf takes on small shipments like this one

Regards
Andrew

potsy11

Hi Guys

I am trying to buy 2 gazebos on Alibaba and the cost is:

Total Price: US$501x2=US$1002
Total Freight: US$845
Total Cost: US$1002+US$845=US$1847

The delivery is door to door.

Is there a cheaper option of transport available to me?

What is the duty and vat I am likely to get hit for?

Thanks

Potsy

andrewfaulk

potsy11 wrote: »

Hi Guys

I am trying to buy 2 gazebos on Alibaba and the cost is:

Total Price: US$501x2=US$1002
Total Freight: US$845
Total Cost: US$1002+US$845=US$1847

The delivery is door to door.

Is there a cheaper option of transport available to me?

What is the duty and vat I am likely to get hit for?

Thanks

Potsy

Hi Potsy,

Transport for something like this would be on a so called consolidated service, where you cargo is shipped on a shared sea container with other peoples shipments.. This is the cheapest method of transport going and is likely what the quote you have is based on

If you want to PM me the below details I can have a look tomorrow to see if the rate is reasonable..

Gross weight of the gazebos when packed, including pallets if any
Dimensions of he gazebos when packed, also including pallet
Collection point:
Delivery point:
Any special delivery requirements etc..

I take it that this price is from the shipper in China, so although they say door to door, it is unlikely to cover all charges(see above and similar threads for examples of how shipping from China can be a minefield)

Re Vat and duty, this will be payable.. I will check the tariff code tomorrow for a duty rate for you

RUDOLF289

potsy11 wrote: »

Hi Guys

I am trying to buy 2 gazebos on Alibaba and the cost is:

Total Price: US$501x2=US$1002
Total Freight: US$845
Total Cost: US$1002+US$845=US$1847

The delivery is door to door.

Is there a cheaper option of transport available to me?

What is the duty and vat I am likely to get hit for?

Thanks

Potsy

Good morning Potsy11,

To start with your last question first. The rate of duty is likely to be 12%. That is calculated over the cost of the product plus freight cost plus marine / cargo insurance premium.

VAT is charged at 23% over the combined total above plus the duty. If you are a VAT registered trader, you can reclaim the VAT paid on import through your periodic VAT return.

The freight costs indicated by your supplier are possibly for a courier type delivery. It appears expensive, but you are likely to see the shipment delivered in 4 to 5 days after despatch allowing for the customs formalities in Ireland. You will settle the duty and VAT outlay to the courier on delivery, they usually charge between € 10.00 and € 15.00 to handle the admin / payment to Revenue on your behalf.

If you could provide the following details ;
1. Collection address
2. Delivery address
3. Packed dimensions of the gazebos + grossweight

We can have a look and see if there are cheaper courier / airfreight options available.

You would save money by shipping the consignment by seafreight. Again, we would need to have the above details in order to provide pricing.

In general, when buying products from China, it is better to take charge of the shipping process. The reason is that the supplier in China often would get a very low cost to get the goods to destination, but the forwarder then recovers the "discount" by levying charges on arrival. Often these charges are not apparant and can lead to a significant, unexpected cost. My recommendatuon is to agree either Free Carrier (FCA) or Free On Board Terms (FOB) with your supplier. That way you can work through an Irish based forwarder and establish the costs, without surprises.

Feel free to post the detail or PM me if you need any further information.

Cheers,
Rudolf289

wellboss

Hi guys,

Also looking for some information on shipping a bike from China, I understand the duty and VAT costs but I have read online that a few people are getting charged anti-dumping tax, they don't give specifics about their case but I'm afraid to order as I cannot justify getting hit by another 40%+ tax on top of the rest.

Does anybody have any good info on understanding this anti-dumping tax or have any experience in shipping a single bike for personal use
Thanks in advance

RUDOLF289

wellboss wrote: »

Hi guys,

Also looking for some information on shipping a bike from China, I understand the duty and VAT costs but I have read online that a few people are getting charged anti-dumping tax, they don't give specifics about their case but I'm afraid to order as I cannot justify getting hit by another 40%+ tax on top of the rest.

Does anybody have any good info on understanding this anti-dumping tax or have any experience in shipping a single bike for personal use
Thanks in advance

It does not matter whether the bike is for personal use or a commercial transaction. The anti dumping duty of 48% applies across the board. There are only a few bycicle manufacturers exempt or are subject to a lower anti dumping duty, but you would need to do a lot of research to find them.

You might consider importing from countries that are not subject to anti dumping duties.

Cheers,
Rudolf289

Wegian

Hi - how much would duty be on PVC fencing?

RUDOLF289

Wegian wrote: »

Hi - how much would duty be on PVC fencing?

Duty is likely to be 6.5%. Calculated over the invoice value plus freight cost.

You could make an inquiry with the Customs Classification unit in Nenagh.

https://www.revenue.ie/en/customs-traders-and-agents/importing-and-exporting/classification/index.aspx

Feel free to PM me if you need any further assistance.

Cheers,
Rudolf289

WhyTheFace

Hi,

I have purchased 150,000 30ml medicine cups off Alibaba.

I have never used it before and just wondering what tax I am likely to have to pay and at what point/to whom I pay it?

Thanks