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Best TV channel to watch football on?
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10-03-2008 8:32pm#1
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Sky are the best for the production side of it, especially the HD. Andy Grey is very boring and dated at this stage, don't like him.
The picture quality is shocking from Setanta, really low bit rate.
Its hard to beat RTE on European nights for the entertainment value albeit they lack some football knowledge.
I cant stand the BBC, I cant even watch MOTD anymore. Lineker and grinning chums are just bad. Bring back dessie
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I think RTE are the most entertaining in terms of analysis. The combo of Duphy, Giles and Brady makes for good viewing and while I might not necessarily agree with what they say, I admire the fact that they are brutally honest and put their arses on the line with their opinions. Souness tends to do this when on RTE too. I also really like the Hamilton/Beglin commentary team, although besides George I'm not too keen on most of the other commentators. Houghton isn't a great replacement for Beglin imo.
BBC are poor for analysis I feel. Hansen was someone I used to respect a lot but I think he's been anglicised too much and by that I mean he joins in the pro-English brigade's deluded nonsense like claiming it could be England's year every fecking year. (McEnroe does this for Wimbledon incidentally) Ian Wright is an embarrassment as are Shearer, Dixon et. al with their fence-sitting, generic views. "If they play to the best of their ability they can get a result today." No, really? Geez I never thought of that! I'm less critical of their commentary team as I find Lawro quite funny at times. Remember the Croatia game? "Say something, Mark." "Can't". As for Motson, while I feel he's no longer as good as he once was, he is still a commentating legend and while I do get annoyed by his OTT reactions to situations - "My goodness, England have won a corner Mark!" - I find him OK enough. The other ones I really dislike however, especially the former Robot Wars guy (Jonathan Pearce I think his name is) who absolutely does my head in.
ITV's analysis is woeful. Much worse than BBC's. Andy Townsend I respected as a player but as a pundit he comes across like a robot spouting his programmed responses. Why has Craig Doyle joined their team now also? Bloody hell, might as well bring in Dermot O'Leary. I find their commentary teams less irritating. I've liked Clive Tyldesley ever since he made mention of the fact that Adrian Mutu (playing for Chelsea at the time) had the distinction of having a surname like that of a Pokemon ('Mewtwo'). For that he will always be a legend in my book, plus of course his 1999 CL final commentary too. "And Solksjaer has won it!" I'll probably get stick for this but I don't mind David Pleat much either. Hey, so what he seems like a nice guy.
Setanta? It has Pat Dolan. Nuff said. Thumbs down for that alone. It also has the Sky Sports reject who used to do the Ireland games and who speaks to viewers like they are infants. I avoid this like the plague. Commentators there are also poor. Probably the worst of the lot although they are relative newcomers.
TV3's analysis is as weak as Setanta's in my opinion and they've been around long enough now. The only thing I enjoy about their coverage is that it gives ample material for the Apres Match lads to poke fun at.
Sky Sports I would say are the most professional of the lot. When they go to show clips of the game, the clips actually get played on time.
Thier analysis can be hit or miss depending on who the have in their studio. Jamie Redknapp goes to the Lee Dixon school of stating the obvious but sometimes they can have well-informed guests. I do find Richard Keys a smarmy git with his constant peering into the camera (why do Sky and Setanta hosts have to keep looking into the camera anyway? Pisses me off) As for their commentary teams they are excellent and they have perhaps the best depth of all the commentary teams. I quite like them all, in particular Gray and Tyler which I'd say is Britain's best duo (wouldn't rank them above our own George and Jim though). Sky have the style and often do excellent video packages and interview segments. I would say they are the more polished of the channels but with a few negative aspects here and there.
Overall I think RTE would be my number 1 preference. For international matches they tend to have the best line-up with Brady, Giles and Dunphy (and Bill the legned himself 'okey doke') plus George Hamilton and Jim Beglin on commentary. Add into that a decent Apres Match skit and some Dunphy outrage and you've got yourself a winning combo.
If you could bottle Sky's presentation skills, and acquire some of their commentators to bolster RTE's depth, then I reckon you'd have the perfect channel for football.0 -
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Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »I think RTE are the most entertaining in terms of analysis. The combo of Duphy, Giles and Brady makes for good viewing and while I might not necessarily agree with what they say, I admire the fact that they are brutally honest and put their arses on the line with their opinions. Souness tends to do this when on RTE too. I also really like the Hamilton/Beglin commentary team, although besides George I'm not too keen on most of the other commentators. Houghton isn't a great replacement for Beglin imo.
BBC are poor for analysis I feel. Hansen was someone I used to respect a lot but I think he's been anglicised too much and by that I mean he joins in the pro-English brigade's deluded nonsense like claiming it could be England's year every fecking year. (McEnroe does this for Wimbledon incidentally) Ian Wright is an embarrassment as are Shearer, Dixon et. al with their fence-sitting, generic views. "If they play to the best of their ability they can get a result today." No, really? Geez I never thought of that! I'm less critical of their commentary team as I find Lawro quite funny at times. Remember the Croatia game? "Say something, Mark." "Can't". As for Motson, while I feel he's no longer as good as he once was, he is still a commentating legend and while I do get annoyed by his OTT reactions to situations - "My goodness, England have won a corner Mark!" - I find him OK enough. The other ones I really dislike however, especially the former Robot Wars guy (Jonathan Pearce I think his name is) who absolutely does my head in.
ITV's analysis is woeful. Much worse than BBC's. Andy Townsend I respected as a player but as a pundit he comes across like a robot spouting his programmed responses. Why has Craig Doyle joined their team now also? Bloody hell, might as well bring in Dermot O'Leary. I find their commentary teams less irritating. I've liked Clive Tyldesley ever since he made mention of the fact that Adrian Mutu (playing for Chelsea at the time) had the distinction of having a surname like that of a Pokemon ('Mewtwo'). For that he will always be a legend in my book, plus of course his 1999 CL final commentary too. "And Solksjaer has won it!" I'll probably get stick for this but I don't mind David Pleat much either. Hey, so what he seems like a nice guy.
Setanta? It has Pat Dolan. Nuff said. Thumbs down for that alone. It also has the Sky Sports reject who used to do the Ireland games and who speaks to viewers like they are infants. I avoid this like the plague. Commentators there are also poor. Probably the worst of the lot although they are relative newcomers.
TV3's analysis is as weak as Setanta's in my opinion and they've been around long enough now. The only thing I enjoy about their coverage is that it gives ample material for the Apres Match lads to poke fun at.
Sky Sports I would say are the most professional of the lot. When they go to show clips of the game, the clips actually get played on time. Thier analysis can be hit or miss depending on who the have in their studio. Jamie Redknapp goes to the Lee Dixon school of stating the obvious but sometimes they can have well-informed guests. I do find Richard Keys a smarmy git with his constant peering into the camera (why do Sky and Setanta hosts have to keep looking into the camera anyway? Pisses me off) As for their commentary teams they are excellent and they have perhaps the best depth of all the commentary teams. I quite like them all, in particular Gray and Tyler which I'd say is Britain's best duo (wouldn't rank them above our own George and Jim though). Sky have the style and often do excellent video packages and interview segments. I would say they are the more polished of the channels but with a few negative aspects here and there.
Overall I think RTE would be my number 1 preference. For international matches they tend to have the best line-up with Brady, Giles and Dunphy (and Bill the legned himself 'okey doke') plus George Hamilton and Jim Beglin on commentary. Add into that a decent Apres Match skit and some Dunphy outrage and you've got yourself a winning combo.
If you could bottle Sky's presentation skills, and acquire some of their commentators to bolster RTE's depth, then I reckon you'd have the perfect channel for football.
Hard to beat RTE for their panel alone, take away Dunphy though and its lost a lot of the appeal, he sparks a lot of it and the other lads fuse around it.
Not many Dolan fans here lol !
In fairness I think Jon Champion is a pretty good commentator and hes done a few games lately on Setanta.
SKY have had years at it so why wouldnt they be polished. In fairness too tho BBC were carrying matches since I was born and they are still miles behind even when they carry the odd live cup game!0 -
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Yup really like Chris Kamara, very very funny.
"Unbelievable Jeff, unbelievable"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxBVzf8PLWc
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Yeah, I'm the same.charlie mchugh wrote: »Soccer Saturday FTW.
There are times I would rather watch Soccer Saturday than the live game on Setanta, great bunch of lads.I-Bleed-White wrote: »RTE because I love watching Kenny Cunninghams eyebrows going up and down as he talks...genius. 0 -
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