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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,372 ✭✭✭iwillhtfu


    Apartments are a good thing to have in general but I can't see the point in building more when the ones thst are there are falling into disrepair.

    I've no issue with apartments although carlow does seem to have a ridiculous amount of them, a six storey development is ridiculous and as you say they're left to rack and ruin as the tenants are so transient and no one really feels an apartment block is their own so doesn't bother with the upkeep.

    A perfect example are the apartments on the river bank in Graiguecullen they're in a terrible state although I see one block seems to have had some form of refurbishment. I suspect either the council or a private developer bought the entire block.

    There is a low rise (3 storey I think) apartment block behind those monstrosities and it's very nice and well kept. Something similar with a properly developed communal area on the site mentioned above would look well.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,788 ✭✭✭✭BattleCorp


    If they are built well I'd much rather live there than in a 1 off house in the country.

    Seriously??? :confused::confused::confused:


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,632 ✭✭✭SligoBrewer


    BattleCorp wrote: »
    Seriously??? :confused::confused::confused:

    Yes. I grew up in a one off house, live in an apartment now. I like having a 2 minute cycle to work, walking to the shops and being able to walk for a pint rather than having lifts and driving dictate what i can and can't do.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,788 ✭✭✭✭BattleCorp


    Yes. I grew up in a one off house, live in an apartment now. I like having a 2 minute cycle to work, walking to the shops and being able to walk for a pint rather than having lifts and driving dictate what i can and can't do.

    Different strokes for different folks I suppose.

    I much prefer the space, peace and quiet and privacy afforded by living in a one-off house in the country.

    I would have hated COVID-19 lockdown in an apartment block. At least I could relax around my own house and not worry about someone coughing on me as we passed each other in the hall.

    You are lucky in that you work in the same town where you live. Would you still like to live in your apartment if you had to commute to Dublin for work?

    Regarding walking to the shop, I commute to work so it's easy to stop in on the way home somewhere to get what I want. I only live 3km from my nearest town so it's only 3 mins in the car to get to the shop eitherways.

    Not big into pints so I only go to the pub an odd time and it's easy enough and cheap enough to get a taxi home.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,632 ✭✭✭SligoBrewer


    BattleCorp wrote: »
    Different strokes for different folks I suppose.

    I much prefer the space, peace and quiet and privacy afforded by living in a one-off house in the country.

    I would have hated COVID-19 lockdown in an apartment block. At least I could relax around my own house and not worry about someone coughing on me as we passed each other in the hall.

    You are lucky in that you work in the same town where you live. Would you still like to live in your apartment if you had to commute to Dublin for work?

    Regarding walking to the shop, I commute to work so it's easy to stop in on the way home somewhere to get what I want. I only live 3km from my nearest town so it's only 3 mins in the car to get to the shop eitherways.

    Not big into pints so I only go to the pub an odd time and it's easy enough and cheap enough to get a taxi home.

    I’m not big on pints either, it’s just that town living is more conducive to a community way of life. Your one off house is you, the lawn and yer car if you want to go anywhere.

    I’ve to go to Dublin for college. I take the train and a DublinBike. My car lies idle 25 days a month and I’d get rid of it fully if there was a decent public transport option between here and Sligo.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 942 ✭✭✭Real Life


    BattleCorp wrote: »
    Different strokes for different folks I suppose.

    I much prefer the space, peace and quiet and privacy afforded by living in a one-off house in the country.

    I would have hated COVID-19 lockdown in an apartment block. At least I could relax around my own house and not worry about someone coughing on me as we passed each other in the hall.

    You are lucky in that you work in the same town where you live. Would you still like to live in your apartment if you had to commute to Dublin for work?

    Regarding walking to the shop, I commute to work so it's easy to stop in on the way home somewhere to get what I want. I only live 3km from my nearest town so it's only 3 mins in the car to get to the shop eitherways.

    Not big into pints so I only go to the pub an odd time and it's easy enough and cheap enough to get a taxi home.

    The thing is if we were to get more big employers in the town, whether it be factories or pharmaceutical similar to MSD say we would need places for the workforce, now many people may commute obviously as I do myself but for younger workers in particular. apartments in town would be more attractive to their lifestyle, same goes for if the IT is to expand as it seems to be doing. We need all these things to happen for Carlow to progress in any way.

    Im not saying the new apartment complex planned is the right way to go or in the right area, I'm not sure to be honest, I can see the arguments for both sides. But we do need somewhere for people, in particular young workers and students to live if the town is ever to take off in any way but I won't be holding my breath.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 817 ✭✭✭iano.p


    I would have no issue with apartment complexes if they are run correct. A proper management company in place like many other complexes around the world. The ones on the river front that are run down are typically of the time. In the planning the council never made a management company a condition so the developer didn't bother. The same developer build a similar complex in Dublin that has a management company in place and still looks well and maintained.


  • Registered Users Posts: 120 ✭✭Spark Plug


    If the developer is smart the entire development will be pre-sold to an Approved Housing Body before the foundations are even poured.


  • Registered Users Posts: 67 ✭✭Jed and Dave


    just to weigh in on this discussion,

    there are acres and acres of derelict and vacant land in carlow town centre, you need more people living in the town centre where the population has fallen and you need a mix of houses apartments and houses , building semi ds and one of houses 3 miles out of town while the town centre is derelict just makes no sense, and the traffic and demands for parking get worse and its slowly killing the town centre and the fumes from the car journeys is slowly killing the residents.

    Apartments have to be good quality(not the previous ****e thats been thrown up) and well located around parks and squares (not busy main roads)temple bar was derelict and there was alot of anti social there at night in the 90s until they got in and developed it with high quality apartments AROUND lovely pedestrian streets and public spaces away from traffic filled main roads and it really works. The problem with ballymun was that the flats were not owner occupied so most didnt care and they put in the flats without the community facilities.

    it is uneconomical for a developer to build apartments in carlow now because build costs are too expensive and the only way to do it now is with some sort of public private partnerships.

    I have no faith in Carlow Co. Council to get this right, we were promised a shiny new pennies development by all our politicians but we are left with the moonbase(ie the old pennies) shouldnt have been given PP because that type of drive through development is like something from the 1980s in every other town in ireland today mixed use in the town centre would be insisted upon, surface car parks are all the rage when DP talks of underground or hidden parking, you wouldent be caught dead there at night because there is no passive surveilance, and the building height bears no relationship with the buildings around it(like the rest of carlow which is a free for all) and the building line dosent address the burrin river, they chucked the development plan in the bin and gave it the go ahead for the sake of rates- thats a ballygobackwards decision.

    In relation to that scheme with the 4/6 stories on montgomery street, that street has 2 storey houses i think so i think along there needs people living there to repopulate the town centre(imagine what that could do for footfall around there)and along the river is the perfect place for 4-6 storey but it needs to be stepped back on MS to match the height of adjoining 2 storey houses. Theres no guidance in relation to building heights and density in the development plan not that anyone cares whats in it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 22 ua


    does anyone know why you need a doctors letter now for the CE scheme ?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,861 ✭✭✭Nokia6230i


    ua wrote: »
    does anyone know why you need a doctors letter now for the CE scheme ?

    Didn't know you had to; only thing I know re CE Schemes is Gda. Vetting applies.

    Been to a few interviews for CE Schemes in my time & they were some pile of p**s if we're being honest; did for Swimming Pool & Parish Centre if I recall & CCDP too.

    Guessing a Dr. letter be to cover your own medical history but they do provide training albeit it's outside of your 19.5 hours but take every bit of it from Manual Handling to Safe Pass to Occ. 1st Aid/Defibrilation etc.


  • Registered Users Posts: 22 ua


    It's since Covid? so that we don't have underlying medical conditions like asthma, just wondering is it mandatory for everyone now. for the outdoor worker and indoor ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,372 ✭✭✭iwillhtfu


    Montgomory Street is a haven for drug use & dealing throwing in another 78 apartments just continues to turn that area it into a Ballymun.

    I see the Gardaí raided that site or at least it looks like it and found 2kg of Heroin. Not even 300m from the station and going on for how long now :rolleyes:

    https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=619061345406902&id=137389766907398

    116337141_619060962073607_7581742539094630036_n.jpg?_nc_cat=110&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=bnJTKGF4T5sAX_9dplL&_nc_ht=scontent-dub4-1.xx&oh=095189269389c0de22c20921e915c6d8&oe=5F49E2D6


  • Registered Users Posts: 67 ✭✭Jed and Dave


    the reason that drug use is going on has nothing to do with apartments its because no one is there to ring the guards perfect place to shoot up


  • Registered Users Posts: 278 ✭✭D_BEAR


    iwillhtfu wrote: »
    I see the Gardaí raided that site or at least it looks like it and found 2kg of Heroin. Not even 300m from the station and going on for how long now :rolleyes:

    They found €8000 worth about 80 grams.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,372 ✭✭✭iwillhtfu


    D_BEAR wrote: »
    They found €8000 worth about 80 grams.

    I wonder where I got 2kg from? Mustve been reading something else at the time.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    the reason that drug use is going on has nothing to do with apartments its because no one is there to ring the guards perfect place to shoot up




    I have two friends living on Montgomory Street trying to get out for the last year who have no problem saying that the drug use and drinking in the social and private rented houses there is off the charts. Even reading the Nationalist every week will tell you that with the amount of court briefs on the area. In the last year alone there has been 3 overdose deaths in house in that area and a lot more close calls with ambulances saving lifes never mind the few house/apartments that have been firebombed there. It is a very rough area.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,972 ✭✭✭OptimusTractor


    I have two friends living on Montgomory Street trying to get out for the last year who have no problem saying that the drug use and drinking in the social and private rented houses there is off the charts. Even reading the Nationalist every week will tell you that with the amount of court briefs on the area. In the last year alone there has been 3 overdose deaths in house in that area and a lot more close calls with ambulances saving lifes never mind the few house/apartments that have been firebombed there. It is a very rough area.

    Sounds like the perfect area for a Louis Theroux doc.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,758 ✭✭✭Laois_Man


    I am looking for a quote and ideas on replacing a small driveway (currently tarmacked) and small lawn with imprinted concrete in Carlow town.

    Does anyone know anyone decent/reliable that will do the job?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 817 ✭✭✭iano.p


    Laois_Man wrote: »
    I am looking for a quote and ideas on replacing a small driveway (currently tarmacked) and small lawn with imprinted concrete in Carlow town.

    Does anyone know anyone decent/reliable that will do the job?

    Have a look for Alen Cullen he is good. He has loads of pictures of jobs on Facebook.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,038 ✭✭✭Notmything


    Need a small piece of welding done on my car, broken bracket for the exhaust. Any idea who might be able to do it in the Carlow area?


  • Registered Users Posts: 194 ✭✭DM_2092


    Not from Carlow, but once dated a Beorr from a dairy farm. I wonder how she's doing to this day!?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 817 ✭✭✭iano.p


    Notmything wrote: »
    Need a small piece of welding done on my car, broken bracket for the exhaust. Any idea who might be able to do it in the Carlow area?

    David Hughes metal works on Facebook. There is a chap behind maxoil on the o Brian rd


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,372 ✭✭✭iwillhtfu


    iano.p wrote: »
    David Hughes metal works on Facebook. There is a chap behind maxoil on the o Brian rd

    It's under D Hughes metal work

    https://www.facebook.com/Dhughescustommetaldesign


  • Registered Users Posts: 60,596 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Laois put into lockdown not sure how that will work in a town like Carlow with part of Laois basically in the town.


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,589 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    Does any kind soul know What bars are open in Carlow this weekend ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 942 ✭✭✭Real Life


    Laois put into lockdown not sure how that will work in a town like Carlow with part of Laois basically in the town.

    Yea its a tricky one, I presume anyone around the Graiguecullen area will be ok as they would do their shopping, socialising, school etc in Carlow usually.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,372 ✭✭✭iwillhtfu


    Sure never mind Laois folk coming into Carlow. Half of Carlow do their shopping in Dunnes which is in Laois. It's a ridiculous reaction altogether which the gardaí are going to struggle to enforce.


  • Registered Users Posts: 966 ✭✭✭radharc


    iwillhtfu wrote: »
    Sure never mind Laois folk coming into Carlow. Half of Carlow do their shopping in Dunnes which is in Laois. It's a ridiculous reaction altogether which the gardaí are going to struggle to enforce.

    You can still go into the 3 counties for essential reasons, which include grocery shopping.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,372 ✭✭✭iwillhtfu


    radharc wrote: »
    You can still go into the 3 counties for essential reasons, which include grocery shopping.

    Which kind of makes a mockery of restricting movement out of the counties. It seems a bit of a ridiculous reaction. I wouldn't fancy trying to enforce it.


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