Grand Slam Sunday

adox

mayordenis wrote: »

now did you all see that ****ing replay, terrible reffing. big game, big passion, refs have to understand.

Thats nothing to do with passion, its just indiscipline.

Rugby players show plenty of passion but know where to stop with the ref.

super_furry

Chelsea

One rule for United, one for Liverpool. Ferdinand went up to that clown of a ref minutes before doing the exact same thing that Torres and Mascherano doing, and nothing. You can clearly see that all Mascherano did what ask 'what's happening?'. That's not dissent.

Villain

Chelsea

inconsistency

Mascherano asked the ref "Whats Happening" and got a second yellow card, now I think he was wrong to keep going after the ref but.......

Oh my f*cking god, how many times has Wayne Rooney abused ref's time and time again in a match calling them f*ucking w*ankers, B*stards etc and got away with it?

Honestly any Man Utd Fan honestly answer this, Has wayne done a lot of mores than Mascherano did and got away with it???

~Marky~

United

After seeing the replay again I dont think he should have been sent off at all.

leninbenjamin

Arsenal

ntlbell wrote: »

use the passion to work your feet not your mouth

in fairness though, it looked to me that Javier was being quite reasonable. i hate seeing dissent from players, but as dissent goes that was minimal. harsh from Bennett. he really is a horrible ref.

Chardee MacDennis

Chelsea

adox wrote: »

Thats nothing to do with passion, its just indiscipline.

Rugby players show plenty of passion but know where to stop with the ref.

ok when there is only one player on the pitch doing it, fair enough send him off but when it is done week in week out by loads of players and only one gets sent off thats bo11ox.

ntlbell

Villain wrote: »

Honestly any Man Utd Fan honestly answer this, Has wayne done a lot of mores than Mascherano did and got away with it???

Probably whats your point?

adox

Thanx 4 The Fish wrote: »

Yes, because stupidity is a sending off offence :rolleyes:

You know what I meant for Gods sake. He was stupid to put himself in that position to be sent off.


It was a lack of discipline.

Ruskie4Rent

torres should've been booked. It was only a little niggly foul from rio and he was moanin as if he was being victimized. Not sure about the masch one. Given that he was already booked, the ref should've reminded him he could send him off.

DMC

Thanx 4 The Fish wrote: »

Yes, because stupidity is a sending off offence :rolleyes:

Thats why dissent is.

Roar

Draw

well, the sending off has ended the game as a spectacle, there's no doubt what the result will be now. united will score one or two more i think

smemon

Draw

Villain wrote: »

inconsistency

Mascherano asked the ref "Whats Happening" and got a second yellow card, now I think he was wrong to keep going after the ref but.......

No, he ran about 40 yards to complain, plus he was cursing at the referee after his first card.

No excuses, sending off offence (second yellow was fair as was first).

Thanx 4 The Fish

Draw

In years to come I wonder will it come out that he had often taken bribes ??

i can see no reason why Masch was sent off for that (and a second yellow when you are on one anyway is still a sending off BTW) when others get away with it, as has already been said, why have Man U players not been carded for the same offence ?

super_furry

Chelsea

Ruskie4Rent wrote: »

torres should've been booked. It was only a little niggly foul from rio and he was moanin as if he was victimized.

Rubbish. If that's the case, then no players will be able to talk to referees again. Rio Ferdinand did the exact same thing down the other end of the pitch a few minutes before after United got a free-kick.

Villain

Chelsea

ntlbell wrote: »

Probably whats your point?

Point is the inconsistency of ref's and how Wayne Rooney has been abusing ref's for years and got away with and Mascherano gets sent off for it.

Its a joke and it hilarious to read Utd fans think Mascherano deserved to be sent off when their golden boy Rooney has done worse time and time again.

ntlbell

Thanx 4 The Fish wrote: »

In years to come I wonder will it come out that he had often taken bribes ??

i can see no reason why Masch was sent off for that (and a second yellow when you are on one anyway is still a sending off BTW) when others get away with it, as has already been said, why have Man U players not been carded for the same offence ?

Your getting sent off for the second yellow not for the in this case decent.

ntlbell

Villain wrote: »

Point is the inconsistency of ref's and how Wayne Rooney has been abusing ref's for years and got away with and Mascherano gets sent off for it.

Its a joke and it hilarious to read Utd fans think Mascherano deserved to be sent off when their golden boy Rooney has done worse time and time again.

Ref's are incosistent? is this news?

He has done worse and in some cases he's got sent off sometimes he deserved to and didn't

does this make you feel better?

enner43

Its really just because of what happened with Ashley Cole during the week. There does need to be a consistency in application however. If someone else is talking back then they need to be booked aswell.

Villain

Chelsea

smemon wrote: »

No, he ran about 40 yards to complain, plus he was cursing at the referee after his first card.

No excuses, sending off offence (second yellow was fair as was first).

ROFL Firstly it was about 15 yards at a max and secondly do you watch the premier league often???

I have seen Rooney run 40 yards and abuse refs not ask "whats happening", if the refs want to start sending players off abusing them thats fair enough, but it needs to be consistent because Rooney and others have been doing it for years and getting away with it.

Roar

Draw

Thanx 4 The Fish wrote: »

i can see no reason why Masch was sent off for that (and a second yellow when you are on one anyway is still a sending off BTW)

no it isn't.

it wasn't a sending off. it was a bookable offence. he was booked for what he said to the referee. the fact that he was already on a yellow card should have no bearing on the referees decision making process

ntlbell

super_furry wrote: »

Rubbish. If that's the case, then no players will be able to talk to referees again. Rio Ferdinand did the exact same thing down the other end of the pitch a few minutes before after United got a free-kick.

IMHO opinion players shoudln't be allowed to question the ref.

if there is an issue the capatain and ONLY the captain should be allowed to approach

mayordenis

United

oh my poor anderson rugby tackled there

Thanx 4 The Fish

Draw

If that was the case then it would be a rule, as it is not the case all players can approach the ref.

Villain

Chelsea

ntlbell wrote: »

Ref's are incosistent? is this news?

He has done worse and in some cases he's got sent off sometimes he deserved to and didn't

does this make you feel better?

I was just pointing out the inconsistency and how Utd fans on here have double standards they say Mascherano should have been sent off but yet their hero Rooney has done much worse and I've never heard any Utd fan say he should have been sent off.

super_furry

Chelsea

ntlbell wrote: »

IMHO opinion players shoudln't be allowed to question the ref.

if there is an issue the capatain and ONLY the captain should be allowed to approach

Fair enough, but that's your opinion (one I'd agree with), but it's not the rules of the game. Before the sending off Mascherno wasn't abusive, wasn't aggressive and asked a question. There's no rule against that and he should never have been booked.

kaisersose77

Its easy to see what Utd fans hate Liverpool fans and vice versa after reading some of the tripe being spouted here

ntlbell

Thanx 4 The Fish wrote: »

If that was the case then it would be a rule, as it is not the case all players can approach the ref.

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Are you playing your own game of spot the obvious?

obviously it's not a rule BUT IF IT WAS

it would solve all the decent to ref blah blah issues

ntlbell

Villain wrote: »

I was just pointing out the inconsistency and how Utd fans on here have double standards they say Mascherano should have been sent off but yet their hero Rooney has done much worse and I've never heard any Utd fan say he should have been sent off.

a football fan with double standards?

well i never.

mayordenis

United

kaisersose77 wrote: »

Its easy to see what Utd fans hate Liverpool fans and vice versa after reading some of the tripe being spouted here

its definately easy to see why liverpool fans hate utd fans anyway :P

kaisersose77

Villain wrote: »

I was just pointing out the inconsistency and how Utd fans on here have double standards they say Mascherano should have been sent off but yet their hero Rooney has done much worse and I've never heard any Utd fan say he should have been sent off.

Theres a hardly a game that goes by that Rooney doesnt do something that could get him sent off. Whether it be his mistimed tackles or decent...........and I'm a Utd

Daysha

Draw

Villain wrote: »

ROFL Firstly it was about 15 yards at a max and secondly do you watch the premier league often???

I have seen Rooney run 40 yards and abuse refs not ask "whats happening", if the refs want to start sending players off abusing them thats fair enough, but it needs to be consistent because Rooney and others have been doing it for years and getting away with it.

So if Gerrard commits an Ashley Cole-style lunge does that mean that he shouldn't get sent off either?

Listen, a match is a match. Regardless of how other referees interpret the rules, the referee shouldn't change his way of refeering a match just because other ref's can't do their job properly.

ntlbell

kaisersose77 wrote: »

Its easy to see what Utd fans hate Liverpool fans and vice versa after reading some of the tripe being spouted here

I dont think so anymore liverpool are too insugnificent for us to be bothered with them anymore that should hurt liverpool fans more than anything

Thanx 4 The Fish

Draw

Probably but then what is to stop the ref sending off the captain when he questions a decision ? If a ref is going to be an arse then he will be it against all players, as he has shown that he can be today.

kaisersose77

mayordenis wrote: »

its definately easy to see why liverpool fans hate utd fans anyway :P

well i was sick of liverpool fans after about 10mins into the match

Erin Go Brath

Arsenal

ntlbell wrote: »

He didn't send him off for it.

he gave him a yellow card for it.

unfortunatley masch cant time a boiled egg which means he had two = sending off see the difference?

Yeh he gave him the 2nd yellow that sent him off for querying a decision.

Ref is a complete tosser whos ruined the game.

I think Utd would have won anyway, but its still shocking from the ref.

ntlbell

Thanx 4 The Fish wrote: »

Probably but then what is to stop the ref sending off the captain when he questions a decision ? If a ref is going to be an arse then he will be it against all players, as he has shown that he can be today.

Well mr point out the obvious i thought this would of been straight forward.

if the captain by law of the game can question the ref why would be sent off?

if ref's are bent no rule will work?

mad.

mayordenis

United

he got a yellow there and then started talking back to the ref, rio should be gone . . .

Aquos76

Now there you have it Rio booked for disent.

Villain

Chelsea

deise59 wrote: »

So if Gerrard commits an Ashley Cole-style lunge does that mean that he shouldn't get sent off either?

Listen, a match is a match. Regardless of how other referees interpret the rules, the referee shouldn't change his way of refeering a match just because other ref's can't do their job properly.

Exactly and how many times have you seen this ref get abused by Rooney? and not got a card for it?

kaisersose77

Erin Go Brath wrote: »

Yeh he gave him the 2nd yellow that sent him off for querying a decision.

Ref is a complete tosser whos ruined the game.

I think Utd would have won anyway, but its still shocking from the ref.

Bennet is an aul thick b*****d and is the last person you would talk back to like that. Anybody watching the match could see Mascherano was going to get sent off at some stage.

Thanx 4 The Fish

Draw

Because by the laws of the game Mr "I have no idea what I am saying from one post to the next" a player can currently question a referees decision and one has just been sent off for it.

anything else ?

Trizo

rio booked can the liverpool fans please move on now ....

Villain

Chelsea

Aquos76 wrote: »

Now there you have it Rio booked for disent.

Just for those not watching Rio got booked for kicking the ball away after a foul was given against him.

super_furry

Chelsea

mayordenis wrote: »

he got a yellow there and then started talking back to the ref, rio should be gone . . .

Exactly. Booked for a foul, starts mouthing off then he should be gone.

mike65

Yossi coming on? Fow who, Kuyt or Babel?

Mike.

Thanx 4 The Fish

Draw

How do you know that he was booked for that and not the foul ? Has the ref said something to you that I have not heard ? Just curious you understand.

mike65

Bennett bottles it!

Mike.

Villain

Chelsea

Trizo wrote: »

rio booked can the liverpool fans please move on now ....

Your joking aren't you?? Rio was booked for kicking the ball away???

BTW Anyway who knows me will know I dislike Liverpool more than Utd, however I don't like to see a potentially good game ruined by inconsistent refereeing

ntlbell

Thanx 4 The Fish wrote: »

Because by the laws of the game Mr "I have no idea what I am saying from one post to the next" a player can currently question a referees decision and one has just been sent off for it.

anything else ?

You'll have to show me the exact law but constantly questioning a ref's descision especially when the descision has nothing to do with you and maybe he used foul language we don't know?

If you show me a law that shows what the ref did was wrong i'll hold my hands up

Thanx 4 The Fish

Draw

mike65 wrote: »

Bennett bottles it!

Mike.

Never, bad reffing feom Bennett....

Somebody call the press..