Safari for Windows

Gyalist

I haven't seen this mentioned here but yesterday Apple released a Windows version of its Safari browser - http://www.apple.com/safari/download/

I am an Apple neophyte so I was a bit sceptical especially when I saw that the download was >15MB. However it is brilliant for viewing photos. I've been using it today to view flickrleech and flickriver and even on my uncalibrated monitor the photos look so much better. Also seems much faster than both IE and Firefox.

stcstc

the reason it looks better is safarie can understand colour profiles in the images

lots of other browsers dont

Samson

Thread not suited to the Photography forum.
Moved to Windows.

ethernet

They first released a Windows beta a while back. It looks OK but the colour and overall design is rather inconsistent with iTunes for Windows. I tried the latest 3.1 version. At least QuickTime actually loads well. QT makes Firefox crash for me under Linux :mad:.

Skyuser

Safari is a lot quicker loading pages.

dulpit

Ya, I noticed this Safari thing yesterday, apple updater (whatever it's called) popped up telling me there are updates, i normally just click ok (cos it's normally for iTunes) but it was actually safari. I reckon a few people might get caught into downloading that way...

I didn't bother downloading it, is it worth it?

It's a lot faster at loading up pages than IE.

Skyuser

I won't be using is full time however. I can't click on address bar to get drop down of recent pages. Can't right click the back button to pick what page I want to go back to. No home button.

PogMoThoin

hellboy99 wrote: »

It's a lot faster at loading up pages than IE.

Who uses IE, how does it compare to Firefox or Opera? I've started using opera on my linux laptop for work, find it faster than firefox

PogMoThoin

PogMoThoin wrote: »

Who uses IE, how does it compare to Firefox or Opera? I've started using opera on my linux laptop for work, find it faster than firefox

Me !!

Don't know how it compares to Firefox or Opera, i've nevered used them

ethernet

dulpit wrote: »

Ya, I noticed this Safari thing yesterday, apple updater (whatever it's called) popped up telling me there are updates, i normally just click ok (cos it's normally for iTunes) but it was actually safari. I reckon a few people might get caught into downloading that way...

I didn't bother downloading it, is it worth it?

That's not on. Apple should not be forcing the browser upon people. Mozilla reflects my views.

eamon234

They're not forcing it - it's offered as part of the update - you don't want it don't install it. It clearly says Itunes on one line and Safari on the other.
Gotta say the speed is well impressive compared to IE, Firefox & Opera

ethernet

They are forcing it -- if it's not installed already and one goes to the Apple Software Updater, runs it, finds there are no updates for iTunes (or QuickTime), Safari still appears as an update and it is ticked for install. That shouldn't be. Microsoft wouldn't get away with that.

I agree -- it is indeed speedy. In fact, it's based on the same HTML rendering engine used in the open-source browser Konqueror under the K desktop environment (KDE).

Capt'n Midnight

ethernet wrote:

Safari still appears as an update and it is ticked for install. That shouldn't be. Microsoft wouldn't get away with that.

:rolleyes:
So it's ok that IE7 tries to hijack your homepage when it installs ??
There is an awful lot of software out there that absolutely requires you to install IE to work.

BostonB

I tried it for a while. I didn't find it it faster than IE or Firefox, and tbh I didn't like the way it antialias all text. Some looks bold when it isn't. No way of making new tabs have a home page default. Firefox is still my favorite.

ethernet

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

:rolleyes:
So it's ok that IE7 tries to hijack your homepage when it installs ??
There is an awful lot of software out there that absolutely requires you to install IE to work.

I wasn't talking specifically about IE. For example, you don't see Windows shoving Silverlight into Windows Update when it was never installed.

I realise a lot of software requires IE, even some banks, because of the ActiveX implementation of certain functionality on some sites.

-annex-

I completely disagree with the whole thing. Apple Software Update is an updater application. Therefore it should only update what's already installed.

ethernet wrote: »

I wasn't talking specifically about IE. For example, you don't see Windows shoving Silverlight into Windows Update when it was never installed.

Actually it looks like Microsoft are doing it too. On my machine anyway (Vista Ultimate) I'm getting the option to download Silverlight in Windows Update.

Screen:
http://img296.imageshack.us/my.php?image=silverlightiq1.jpg

astrofool

Silverlight is included under microsoft update, which includes updates and installs to other MS products, you have to opt in to it.

Windows update does not have silverlight. Silverlight, however, will soon be as ubiquitous as flash, so probably worth installing at some stage (works for Firefox too afaik).

BostonB

Who the dingbat cares how its delivered. :rolleyes:

dulpit

BostonB wrote: »

Who the dingbat cares how its delivered. :rolleyes:

I suppose it's grand if you want it... The thing is if you don't want it and aren't paying attention, or if you're not an experienced user you could end up with something you don't want/need...

BostonB

It takes a few secs to uninstall it.

folan

anyone notice that its EULA doesn't cover Windows? It can only be installed on a MAC.

ethernet

BostonB wrote: »

It takes a few secs to uninstall it.

Fair point but you'll still have junk left in the registry as always.

Soundman

folan wrote: »

anyone notice that its EULA doesn't cover Windows? It can only be installed on a MAC.

Just a guess that they just copied their standard EULA and just forgot to change Mac to Windows in it. Just an oversight I imagine.

Ricky91t

IMHO its not that much quicker than FF if it is maybe a second or so but i tested it and it loaded the page quicker and then took a while to load image where as FF loads everything in one go

folan

Soundman wrote: »

Just a guess that they just copied their standard EULA and just forgot to change Mac to Windows in it. Just an oversight I imagine.

Aye, and theyve changed it now. funny mistake to make though

patrickc

have to say i have it less than a week and have found it excellent so far, loads boards 3 times faster than FF

Breezer

Skyuser wrote: »

I won't be using is full time however. I can't click on address bar to get drop down of recent pages. Can't right click the back button to pick what page I want to go back to. No home button.

You can click on the History menu to get a list of recent pages. You can left click and hold on the back button to pick the page you want to go to. A home button is available by selecting View -> Customise toolbar and dragging the home button to the toolbar.

Having said all that, I'm a Mac head, love Safari on Mac, and I still prefer Firefox anytime I'm on Windows. Fits in better with the Windows environment IMO.

Oh and I agree that Apple shouldn't be including apps that aren't already installed in a updater. Although as mentioned, Microsoft are doing it too. Doesn't make it right though. Moral of the story: read things instead of clicking 'Next, next, next...'

BostonB

patrickc wrote: »

have to say i have it less than a week and have found it excellent so far, loads boards 3 times faster than FF

Doesn't for me. I use firetune though. I just like the way things are done in Firefox better.

Feelgood

Just installed this badboy there a few minutes ago, man its class. Looks amazing, feels good, bookmarks bar is as cool as fcuk. It just reinvented the internet for me to be honest.

How is everyone else getting on with it?

BostonB

I'm not really into the anti aliased look. But have tried it on a few web applications at work and on some of them it is noticeably faster. Mind you it breaks on some Javascript and CSS. But most things work.

No new tab homepage is annoying, as is no right click on a word and search Google as in FF. Is there in in-line spell checker?