Please help disabled driver choose a car

Mental Mickey · 16-10-2009 9:34pm

vengeance52 wrote: »

the Golf is roomier than the fiesta, from what ive seen.

Dont forget the golden rule......we want PICS

I won't be doin this till next summer. Gimme a chance!!!

Mental Mickey · 19-10-2009 9:38pm

:eek: I've just used the "build your model" feature on the Park Motors website, and the final price of the VW Golf after I have added things that I want comes to nearly 30k!!!!!!

I wonder how much I could get for a 2 year old Ford Fiesta Automatic to help bring the price down a bit???

vectra · 20-10-2009 12:42am

Mental Mickey wrote: »

:eek: I've just used the "build your model" feature on the Park Motors website, and the final price of the VW Golf after I have added things that I want comes to nearly 30k!!!!!!

I wonder how much I could get for a 2 year old Ford Fiesta Automatic to help bring the price down a bit???

Have you looked at a SEAT Leon? Seat's Equivelant of a Golf only a lot cheaper
Check this one out :cool:

Mental Mickey · 20-10-2009 11:04am

vectra wrote: »

Have you looked at a SEAT Leon? Seat's Equivelant of a Golf only a lot cheaper
Check this one out :cool:

I've tried to use the "configure" button on the Seat website, but I can't get past the basic model??

EPM · 20-10-2009 11:28am

I've had a spin in that car. They've put FR bumpers on it and 17 inch alloys. But strangely a Cupra sign on the back:rolleyes:

Nice car for the money - extra's are a good €1.5-2k if you wanted to do it yourself.

The seat configurator is crap by the way. They come with a lot of extras as it is. On it, once you decide on your model, navigation of it is all done on the right hand side of the page

bazz26 · 20-10-2009 12:08pm

OP would you not wait for the new Opel Astra, it goes on sale early next year:

brumbrum · 20-10-2009 12:41pm

Hey MM

I got a brand new VW Scirocco from Park Motors this yr. I got it adapted by Mobility Ireland (who do that kind of work for Park Motors) VW are expensive but they are great I have to say. To be honest the Scirocco isnt the greatest for having a wheelchair though. But I do have the DSG which is brilliant. I think the Golf GT comes with cruise control which is handy and get the light and vision pack(rain sensing wipers and auto lights!).

This is my second car I bought under the disabled drivers scheme. PM me if you have any questions or want to know the guy I delt with in Park Motors.

Both Park Motors and Mobility Ireland were fantastic to deal with. I will be going back to them again.

R.O.R · 20-10-2009 1:10pm

Mental Mickey wrote: »

:eek: I've just used the "build your model" feature on the Park Motors website, and the final price of the VW Golf after I have added things that I want comes to nearly 30k!!!!!!

I wonder how much I could get for a 2 year old Ford Fiesta Automatic to help bring the price down a bit???

I hear there is a meeting in VW today (or maybe next week depending on source) regarding a new pricing structure. Keep an eye on boards and someone will probably link to new (should be a good bit cheaper) pricing from VW. Will probably take a while to update the configurator though.

I've just been out in a Comfortline DSG 2.0Tdi and that had an Armrest between the seats. I can't remember if the Trendline does or not - but that don't do a DSG version of that so that model is out.

Cracking car to drive in Petrol or Diesel - the DSG box is fantastic. I delivered a 1.4Tsi 160bhp DSG Highline to a customer last month. Very nice car to drive an plenty of poke, but I must say I prefer the 2.0Tdi for power delivery through the DSG. With the current price difference between the 2 it's probably not worth the extra for the Diesel unless you are doing big miles - the Petrol is €156 to tax for a year but the Diesel is €302.

I'd definately have a look at the Opel if they do an Auto at a reasonable price. It was launched to the press in Germany last week so we should start to see details fairly shortly so they can get orders for next year.

Mental Mickey · 20-10-2009 2:08pm

brumbrum wrote: »

Hey MM

I got a brand new VW Scirocco from Park Motors this yr. I got it adapted by Mobility Ireland (who do that kind of work for Park Motors) VW are expensive but they are great I have to say. To be honest the Scirocco isnt the greatest for having a wheelchair though. But I do have the DSG which is brilliant. I think the Golf GT comes with cruise control which is handy and get the light and vision pack(rain sensing wipers and auto lights!).

This is my second car I bought under the disabled drivers scheme. PM me if you have any questions or want to know the guy I delt with in Park Motors.

Both Park Motors and Mobility Ireland were fantastic to deal with. I will be going back to them again.

AFAIK, the GT model only comes in a 4 door model....? I could be mixing it up with the Comfortline model, though......?

R.O.R · 20-10-2009 2:23pm

GT is a MKV spec which is now no longer available (unless some in stock - unlikely any DSG models).

MKVI Golf comes in Trendline, Comfortline and Highline Specification. DSG comes with either Comfortline or Highline.

brumbrum · 20-10-2009 2:27pm

I am pretty sure they do a 3 door GT. The old model GT had a 3 door.The new model GT isnt out yet but GTi and GTD have 5 and 3 door. So the GT should be in 3 door.

Comfortline, trendline are the spec levels. Some have bigger alloys and more gadgets and stuff. I dont think any Golf comes with an armrest as standard. Its an extra which you dont have to get!

Would you think of getting a GTi? Savage car.

vectra · 20-10-2009 2:38pm

Mental Mickey wrote: »

I've tried to use the "configure" button on the Seat website, but I can't get past the basic model??

How about the one I pointed you to? It has some extras fitted already
Nice car. I actually sat in it and was tempted

EPM · 20-10-2009 2:43pm

brumbrum wrote: »

I am pretty sure they do a 3 door GT. The old model GT had a 3 door.The new model GT isnt out yet but GTi and GTD have 5 and 3 door. So the GT should be in 3 door.

Comfortline, trendline are the spec levels. Some have bigger alloys and more gadgets and stuff. I dont think any Golf comes with an armrest as standard. Its an extra which you dont have to get!

Would you think of getting a GTi? Savage car.

Current Golf is Trendline, Comfortline and Highline with the GTi/D above those.

Armrests are on Comfortline and above with the Mk6, optional on Trendline

Mental Mickey · 20-10-2009 2:46pm

brumbrum wrote: »

I am pretty sure they do a 3 door GT. The old model GT had a 3 door.The new model GT isnt out yet but GTi and GTD have 5 and 3 door. So the GT should be in 3 door.

Comfortline, trendline are the spec levels. Some have bigger alloys and more gadgets and stuff. I dont think any Golf comes with an armrest as standard. Its an extra which you dont have to get!

Would you think of getting a GTi? Savage car.

http://www.mslvolkswagen.ie/configurator/index.cfm?fuseaction=vw.Standard&variantID=7944.

This one is priced at 24k for the basic 3 door model. AFAIK, this is the cheapest model in 3 door and DSG....?

Mental Mickey · 21-10-2009 4:44pm

I'm getting some slagging from friends for choosing this car. Apparently, it's a bit of an animal?? Are they right? Should I downgrade my choice a wee bit?

R.O.R · 21-10-2009 5:11pm

Mental Mickey wrote: »

I'm getting some slagging from friends for choosing this car. Apparently, it's a bit of an animal?? Are they right? Should I downgrade my choice a wee bit?

If your friends think a base model Golf with 122bhp is a bit of an Animal, you need new friends!

It's nippy, but I wouldn't go much further than that. The 160bhp version is pretty quick, but still more pussy cat than tiger.

vectra · 21-10-2009 5:42pm

Mental Mickey wrote: »

I'm getting some slagging from friends for choosing this car. Apparently, it's a bit of an animal?? Are they right? Should I downgrade my choice a wee bit?

LOL
Go for an Octavia Vrs then and give them something to talk about

robbie_998 · 21-10-2009 5:44pm

a toyota corolla hatchback ?

brumbrum · 21-10-2009 6:03pm

My car has 200 bhp!!!! My friends druel!

Mental Mickey · 22-10-2009 5:51pm

brumbrum wrote: »

My car has 200 bhp!!!! My friends drool!

FIXXED.

Edit: Is this site any good for helping disabled drivers choose cars? http://www.newcarsavings.ie/index.php?p=33&gclid=CPyH0-WS0Z0CFU0A4wodDn1Krg

Mental Mickey · 24-10-2009 1:59pm

Can anyone suggest a 2 door hatchback that I would be able to get the max VAT(€9525) from?

vectra · 24-10-2009 2:09pm

Mental Mickey wrote: »

Can anyone suggest a 2 door hatchback that I would be able to get the max VAT(€9525) from?

Subaru Imprezza TD RS Retail around 32k

HERE
Denis and Mary Ryan offered me one for €20k no trade in.
Good deal if you ask me.
Sell your own car private.

Mental Mickey · 24-10-2009 2:11pm

vectra wrote: »

Subaru Imprezza TD RS Retail around 32k

HERE
Denis and Mary Ryan offered me one for €20k no trade in.
Good deal if you ask me.
Sell your own car private.

Needs to be a 2 door.

vectra · 24-10-2009 2:25pm

ah
sorry
How about this then :eek:
Retailing at €32k
A bit of bargaining again should bring it in at around the same as the subaru

Mercedes-Benz/CLC-Class/CLC-200-/

Mental Mickey · 24-10-2009 2:27pm

vectra wrote: »

ah
sorry
How about this then :eek:
Retailing at €32k
A bit of bargaining again should bring it in at around the same as the subaru

Mercedes-Benz/CLC-Class/CLC-200-/200942195498426/advert?channel=CARS

Holy s**t! How would I know which cars would give me the 9525 and which ones wouldn't?

I obviously did myself out of a few quid when I changed from the Micra to the Fiesta!?

vectra · 24-10-2009 2:45pm

Mental Mickey wrote: »

Holy s**t! How would I know which cars would give me the 9525 and which ones wouldn't? I obviously did myself out of a few quid when I changed from the Micra to the Fiesta!?

Well,
I had to try figure this out as well.
This is how I do it but am probably wrong :rolleyes:

Merc = 31950 retail
I think someone said the OMSP is around 92% of retail = €29394

VRT = 20% = €29394 /120 *100 = €24495

VAT = 21.5% = €24495 /121.5 *100 = €20,160

Then comes the haggling

Somebody correct me please if I am wrong.:o

Mental Mickey · 24-10-2009 3:24pm

vectra wrote: »

Well,
I had to try figure this out as well.
This is how I do it but am probably wrong :rolleyes:

Merc = 31950 retail
I think someone said the OMSP is around 92% of retail = €29394

VRT = 20% = €29394 /120 *100 = €24495

VAT = 21.5% = €24495 /121.5 *100 = €20,160

Then comes the haggling

Somebody correct me please if I am wrong.:o

I really should've paid more attention during maths at school!!!:rolleyes::D

Mental Mickey · 24-10-2009 3:26pm

vectra wrote: »

ah
sorry
How about this then :eek:
Retailing at €32k
A bit of bargaining again should bring it in at around the same as the subaru

Mercedes-Benz/CLC-Class/CLC-200-/

Nice car, but a bit too big for my liking.

vectra · 24-10-2009 3:27pm

Mental Mickey wrote: »

Nice car, but a bit too big for my liking.

There's just no pleasing some people :pac:

"I'll be back"

Mental Mickey · 24-10-2009 3:29pm

vectra wrote: »

There's just no pleasing some people :pac:

"I'll be back"

Sorry ..............I'm completely unsure about what I want. I was gonna go for a VW Golf, but then someone said that I should go for something that will give me the full 9525 VAT/VRT.

vectra · 24-10-2009 3:43pm

Mental Mickey wrote: »

Sorry ..............I'm completely unsure about what I want. I was gonna go for a VW Golf, but then someone said that I should go for something that will give me the full 9525 VAT/VRT.

No hassle bud
I will be in the same position as you next year.
Anyhow
How about a
Kia Pro-Ceed?
2.0TDI 140BHP

Pro Ceed

I estimate around €17k with a bit of bargaining.

Mental Mickey · 24-10-2009 4:57pm

vectra wrote: »

No hassle bud
I will be in the same position as you next year.
Anyhow
How about a
Kia Pro-Ceed?
2.0TDI 140BHP

Pro Ceed

I estimate around €17k with a bit of bargaining.

Nice car. And the inside doesn't have one of those stupid, huge centre consoles that get in the way of the wheelchair!

EDIT: By the way, is that an auto?

vectra · 24-10-2009 5:11pm

Mental Mickey wrote: »

EDIT: By the way, is that an auto?

Manual... 7 Year warranty though.. Good selling point afterwards.
http://www.carzone.ie/search/KIA/pro_ceed/1.6-CRDI/200840190271497/advert?channel=CARS

Mental Mickey · 24-10-2009 5:18pm

vectra wrote: »

Manual... 7 Year warranty though.. Good selling point afterwards.
http://www.carzone.ie/search/KIA/pro_ceed/1.6-CRDI/200840190271497/advert?channel=CARS

No good to me. Read the thread title.

vectra · 24-10-2009 5:36pm

Mental Mickey wrote: »

No good to me. Read the thread title.

Order it in auto then?

EPM · 24-10-2009 5:53pm

you're on about a Golf but dismissing the Merc which is the same size?

Mental Mickey · 24-10-2009 6:08pm

EPM wrote: »

you're on about a Golf but dismissing the Merc which is the same size?

Golf is cheaper.

vectra · 24-10-2009 7:26pm

Mental Mickey wrote: »

Golf is cheaper.

But will you reclalim the 9.5 k back as you specified?
Also
Merc is better and would most likely give you a better return on resale afterwards.

EPM · 24-10-2009 8:35pm

The Kia Proceed can be had with the 1.6 diesel in auto i think, plus there'll be spec changes in next few months. The dealer that has the one shown, from personal experience, are excellent btw

ninty9er · 25-10-2009 2:00pm

Why does it have to be 2 door. Surely if you were to have apddengers the 4/5 door option would be much better.

Anywho...the new Prius is due here next month...worth a look.

vengeance52 · 25-10-2009 2:05pm

2doors in alot of cars, the doors are longer, and its easier getting in and out, and lifting in the chair

Mental Mickey · 26-10-2009 3:34pm

vengeance52 wrote: »

2doors in alot of cars, the doors are longer, and its easier getting in and out, and lifting in the chair

This.

Mental Mickey · 03-11-2009 11:21pm

I'll tell ya another handicap(sic) that us disabled drivers have to overcome when choosing a car:

Most, if not all garages, do not have a facility where they have a modified car for their disabled customers to try out. Sure, ye can go and sit in an automatic, but it's not the same as trying out one that has modifications done to it.

Do any of my fellow disabled drivers have any thoughts/opinions on this?

colm_mcm · 03-11-2009 11:37pm

Don't get too caught up in the saving €9500 thing. Cars with that much VRT will either be very expensive or in a very high VRT band. Cars with a high VRT band will be very difficult to sell on as a lot of cars now fall into the €104 or €156 bracket. you may be exempt from road tax, but it will be a huge issue to the next buyer of the car.

Get something you actually like or need. there's nothing saying you actually need to change the Fiesta. With the way the used car market has gone, and with reductions in VRT on many cars, changing like for like for 2 years for free is gone.

Mental Mickey · 04-11-2009 10:45am

colm_mcm wrote: »

Don't get too caught up in the saving €9500 thing. Cars with that much VRT will either be very expensive or in a very high VRT band. Cars with a high VRT band will be very difficult to sell on as a lot of cars now fall into the €104 or €156 bracket. you may be exempt from road tax, but it will be a huge issue to the next buyer of the car.

Get something you actually like or need. there's nothing saying you actually need to change the Fiesta. With the way the used car market has gone, and with reductions in VRT on many cars, changing like for like for 2 years for free is gone.

Really? So, it wouldn't be worth my while changing my car now, even though the option is available to me??

colm_mcm · 04-11-2009 11:02am

My simple reasoning is:

06 Fiesta Steel models this year made about €8k, I'd assume 07s next year would be the same?

I think an Automatic one will be a harder sell second hand, especially in a 3dr.

Take a new Fiesta 1.4 Style 3dr auto. with metallic paint, you're talking a little over €19k. A discount to around €17500 wouldn't be unreasonable. the VRT on that is roughly €3k that leaves you with €14500 including VAT, knock the VAT off that, and you have €11,934. Add the cost of transferring your hand controls over, and you're up to about €12,500.

After the exemption, you could still be looking at €4.5k to change. and that's on another Fiesta. those figures are based on what we were selling 06 Fiestas for, things might be better next year.

On the other hand, if you leave it another year, you have to fork out more money the next time. It's a toughie.

Mental Mickey · 04-11-2009 11:40am

colm_mcm wrote: »

My simple reasoning is:

06 Fiesta Steel models this year made about €8k, I'd assume 07s next year would be the same?

I think an Automatic one will be a harder sell second hand, especially in a 3dr.

Take a new Fiesta 1.4 Style 3dr auto. with metallic paint, you're talking a little over €19k. A discount to around €17500 wouldn't be unreasonable. the VRT on that is roughly €3k that leaves you with €14500 including VAT, knock the VAT off that, and you have €11,934. Add the cost of transferring your hand controls over, and you're up to about €12,500.

After the exemption, you could still be looking at €4.5k to change. and that's on another Fiesta. those figures are based on what we were selling 06 Fiestas for, things might be better next year.

On the other hand, if you leave it another year, you have to fork out more money the next time. It's a toughie.

Even though my car has very low mileage/kilomeratage(lol) on it?

EPM · 04-11-2009 11:49am

It still wouldn't be a popular car secondhand unfortunately

Mental Mickey · 04-11-2009 7:00pm

EPM wrote: »

It still wouldn't be a popular car secondhand unfortunately

Oh well. Won't be my problem once it's off my hands.

Mental Mickey · 06-11-2009 12:45pm

........guess what guys?? Volkswagen ain't doing the Golf in a 3door DSG version anymore!!!

Any other suggestions? It must be a 3 door car!

Please help disabled driver choose a car

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