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Pamela Izevbekhai - Should She Be Deported?
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From my position this is shocking;
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/ireland/article5993384.ece
Such a f**king rollercoaster. Will try to gather more info locally today and post.
Really dont know what to think
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There are enormous lessons to be learned from this sad spectacle,but one of the most important is that we must as a culture begin to appreciate the importance of valuing our own laws and by association the process by which we allowed them to be enacted,ie: Democracy.
As the Izevbekhai case now enters it`s final and utterly predictable "What about the Children" Media Circus stage the Government on our behalf MUST be resolute in its defence of the countrys Democratic Status and of Freedom itself.
For,if Pamela Izevbekhai and her substantial backup team in Nigeria are successful in accquiring "Subsidiary Protection" as a result of some humanitarian Media led appeal then The Criminals are victorious,yet again.
We as a culture and country are already suffering the immediate results of this Criminality led methodology which has been as prevalent here in Ireland as it ever was in Nigeria.
The ethos is identical,the difference is only one of simple numbers involved.
We have already had many posters describing in some detail the Nigerian "Way of doing things" and thereby making strong deductions as to the entire country that is Nigeria.
However,we ned to pause a moment and enquire as to whether Ireland,over the past three decades has been any different.
I would suggest Ireland has in some respects been WORSE than Nigeria as that country never sent it`s Missionaries here to convert the native heathens to "The True Faith".
This "Commonality of Regard" for criminality could perhaps explain why Ireland has been such a favoured destination for Nigerians in particular whilst other adjoining African nationalities barely feature on our stats.
Put bluntly,Ireland is marketed by the serious Human Trafficking Executives as a place where any self-respecting Business Minded individual can make a life for themselves with substantial financial aid (In African terms) made available to them in addition to the educational needs of their children being catered for.
We native Irish,still content to view Africa as the Dark Continent,are blissfully unaware of the extent to which Ireland appeals to such a vast "customer" base who remain largely unimpressed by the official German,French,Dutch or Italian attitudes towards their arrival en-masse.
The other aspect of the Izevbekhai case which MUST be noted and noted well si the absolute requirement for the Implementation and Adminintration of the Law to remain impervious to the Media Led "Campaign",especially when such campaign is centred around opaque and unverifiable occurrences portrayed as facts.
Great Credit must be given to the editorial team of the Times (Of London
)who from the outset have been the major source of unbiased factual reporting.
The attitudes of both major Irish Print Media organs (Times and Independent) have been questionable,particularly so in relation to the Irish Times where I would suggest it`s Managing Editor should perhaps consider her position in response to her policy decisions to align the Paper of Record with a particular bias in this case.
The final brickbat must go to RTE,and in particular Mr Boucher-Hayes.
Both the Station and its reporter could,if they had applied rational and professional verification methods on the original Dr Unokanjo interview,have pulled at the very obviuous threads protruding from the cloak of the purported Doctor.
However,neither the Station nor Mr Boucher Hayes appear to have done so as,I assume, it would be counter to their Liberal "policies" especially in the light of Mr Boucher Hayes`s appearances as a character witness for Ms Izevbekhai.
Hopefully this sorry expensive mess will leave Ireland,it`s citizens and those who have secured it`s protections LEGALLY in a far better position to move the Country and its peoples forward.
A victory for Pamela Izevbekhai,even now,on humanitarian grounds,will immediately expose us fraudulent in our attitude to our own Laws and will make life for many other deserving cases so much more difficult.Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.
Charles Mackay (1812-1889)
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People need to take a wee step back and look at what's really at issue here.... we need to stop hiding behind a bureaucracy gone mad.
We have a woman and two young daughters who just want to live here in peace, regardless of why - they are no threat to the Irish state, they would most likely contribute more than many Irish citizens if left in peace to live and work here.
We have tens of thousands of Irish born criminals living here who deserve deportation to Nigeria far more, our prisons and our streets are full of these Irish nationals who most of us would love to see the back of.
Nationality is a fake identity in relation to whether someone is a nice person or not. Our whole approach to immigration should be based on a human appraisal of people rather than a fearful bureaucratic system of exclusion. For this we'd need Irish people in power who are humane.
Simple philosopy lesson over, now to Pamela's current case....
Obvious that Nigerian government are corrupt and arrogant when Nigerian ambassador to Ireland denies FGM is in existence in her country in an Irish radio interview, this is also easily proven incorrect by filming the many examples there or by documentary evidence of same which can be found on the internet then backed up by film documentary.
It is accepted internationally that FGM is practiced in Nigeria so the Irish ambassador should be taken up on her denial of this by the Irish government who have a commitment to tackle FGM and eradicate it by 2015 (pledged through EU).
The doctor in question who disputes the validity of the paperwork obviously cannot be taken seriously because he says he denies Pamela's husbands claims he asked for money then next sentence asks for 5,000 Euro to answer any more questions! typical Nigerian state official.
Also the Irish radio producer was told the doctor had been visited from the Nigerian Army just after his interview so we can clearly see that the state is trying to deny Pamela's case to further their hypocritical self-portrait.
Then the Irish state who have a serious agenda in denying Pamela's case will jump on the latest revelation about the forged paperwork to deny any proper investigation of this doctor in support of their own agenda, as the Irish State do not want to support FGM claim as grounds for asylum as they fear it will open up the doors to many more claims in the future.
The Gardai - who could be tackling the serious crime in Ireland - went to Nigeria to prove the documents were fake (a place where you can prove anything if you're on the side of the Nigerian state) but failed to investigate any further than accepting the avidavit / word of a doctor who is demanding money left right and centre - but it serves their purpose and technically they may seek for the case to be withdrawn now based on their new found evidence... but lets see what develops because these biased investigations by the same Gardai who are seeking to expel this mother and her children from their life in Ireland... could very easily be proved inadequate and insufficient in their scope to establish an end to such a long running case as this.
It is well understood that in many so called democracies in Africa, that state corruption is rife, Nigeria is in anyones mind is one of the most corrupt states, documents and bribes go hand in hand, so although Pamela may be forced to go along with all this quietly now for her best legal footing, I'm sure in the future we will find out the full truth about these 'fake' documents... in Africa documents generally aren't worth the paper they're printed on whether they come backed by the state or refuted by the state - that's the reality of state corruption, you never can tell, but what you can know is pain and fear and suffering - which is apparent to anybody who listens to Pamela tell her story.
This is the real problem, we are letting the Irish authorities persecute an individual to hellish levels, which shows how inhumane the capitalist system is, whether in Ireland or in Africa, it's useless! the paperwork is just the control mechanism for these state powers to do what they like with us, to protect their borders and their economies for their interests not the interests of humanity.
The Irish state share the same arrogance and indifference as the Nigerian state. This is despite the fact that European governments have pledged to address the issue of FGM and have pledged to eradicate FGM by 2015. This is the issue, and if the case folds this week with the narrow-minded selfish interests of the investigating Gardai team sufficient to quash such a long-running and complex and expensive case - then we will again see the weakness of the Irish legal system and the lack of Irish government moral and insincerity towards their commitments to eradicate this torture in general.
It's worth remembering that Pamela a mother of two young daughters was arrested for Christmas 2005 by the Irish state, this is at the height of the Celtic Tiger wealth which shows what effect money has on society, that there was no major outrage or objection by the Irish people shows their complacency and mutual arrogance towards the most basic issues of human rights.
Personally I'm ashamed to be Irish from all the human rights violations which have been carried out in our name over the last decade and when people wake up and realise that nationality is actually a pseudo-identity then we will be on the road towards humanity, but I'm afraid that will be a long time coming.
Pamela, I wish you success in your case, if it fails this week due to conniving powers that be, well all I can wish you is safety for yourself and your daughters, I would hate to hear of you being arrested in Nigeria and being seperated from your two lovely daughters there - my fear if you are returned to Nigeria, maybe another country with some morals could offer you asylum outside Ireland should your case here be rejected... at least you would be free from fear and persecution which Ireland has not yet offered in all its wealth and glory!
Our immigration system is exploitative, the rich have free passage (recently could even buy passports / nationality from the government) while other normal people have to defend themselves tooth and nail for basic freedoms.
We have big issues to deal with, Pamela's case may be completely as she has put it - that the doctor wanted considerable money from her husband to issue official paperwork for her child there, that is extortion and corruption, we know it exists in Nigeria.
Pamela says she didnt' know the documents were forgeries, documents her husband was forced to acquire illegally in absence of legal documents - this can also be true!
Pamela's inability to participate freely in detail about her case is (you must appreciate) dictated by her legal team, matters are subjudice - legally she cannot discuss many details while the case is proceeding because to do so would weaken her case.
The doctor in question has clearly illustrated his lack of integrity by asking for money from Irish media sources to discuss the case in detail - exactly what Pamela's husband claimed previously - that the doctor tried to extort money for the paperwork.
I think we can expect to learn the full truth later and I think it would be very stupid for the Irish judiciary to simply quash her case based on the most recent revelation about the paperwork - paper is paper! people are people, so they should allow her to speak freely in court and listen to her there.
The investigatory team that went to Nigeria are the very same state who seek to repel Pamela and her daughters, this is not an independent investigation, it has not fully investigated the case of the doctor but simply got what they wanted from the doctor and legged it back home armed with more dirt against her.
We need an immigration system that is fair and you will find many accounts online about how unfair our immigration system is, how it's almost impossible to gain asylum or refugee status here, look at the facts about how many applications have been made versus how many have been granted - the figures speak for themselves re our immigration system, note below...
How can an immigration system be fair when it has year after year maintained a large backlog (several thousands) of unprocessed applications while the applicants are held in limbo for several years! not permitted to work or live normally while their applications are being processed, it's a system which maintains the negative attitudes by many towards asylum seekers.
The state is wasting money through it's inability to process the applications, large payments each week to home and feed people who are willing to work and feed themselves if left to do so, many qualified people who are denied work yet must stay for several years at the paye's expense - the Irish immigration system is a ridiculous shambles! like many other state-run paye-funded shambolic Irish systems, the reason is simple - those in office have no real interest in tackling the problems constructively, there's the usual profiteering, head in the sand, passing the buck and so on.... and all the other typically Irish methods of avoiding reality at state / civil service level.
Extract from Sunday Tribune article:
The myth of Ireland's liberal asylum policy
Ken Foxe
Just 0.01% of Nigerians granted asylum in the past two years (August 10, 2008)
NIGERIAN people arriving in Ireland have practically no chance of being granted asylum, according to figures obtained by the Sunday Tribune.
The Nigerian embassy in Dublin said the figures were unsurprising, as the vast majority of asylum seekers from their country were in fact "economic migrants".
However, Nigeria is sharply criticised in Amnesty International's latest report for human rights violations.
The Irish Refugee Council said that Ireland had consistently one of the highest rates of refusal in the European Union for asylum seekers.
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Extract from Sunday Tribune article:
The myth of Ireland's liberal asylum policy
Ken Foxe
Just 0.01% of Nigerians granted asylum in the past two years (August 10, 2008)
NIGERIAN people arriving in Ireland have practically no chance of being granted asylum, according to figures obtained by the Sunday Tribune.
The Nigerian embassy in Dublin said the figures were unsurprising, as the vast majority of asylum seekers from their country were in fact "economic migrants".
However, Nigeria is sharply criticised in Amnesty International's latest report for human rights violations.
The Irish Refugee Council said that Ireland had consistently one of the highest rates of refusal in the European Union for asylum seekers. Barra
I remember this bit of sophistry well.
What Fox failed (or chose not) to establish is that when you consistently over a period of a decade have to assess the highest concentrations of Nigerian asylum seekers in Europe, who are not found to be refugees, in any European jurisdiction, mathematically, it tends to push the statistical rate of overall rejection up.
He equally failed to mention the dismal record of deporting Nigerians and/or the fact that this is what people point to when analysing the facts and querying the motive for such a skewed number of pointless claims from Nigeria, year after year.
This is the liberal asylum policy in reality and it's far from a myth.0 -
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donegalfella wrote: »This post has been deleted.
Yeh I have been having the odd look at the site too, they must have had quite a few hits in the past week
And they can't use the subjudice argument as their website has been accessible right throughout her court cases. It is a phenomenal amount of work put in by whoever keeps the site updated, I can't but admire their determination even if I disagree with their position. 0 -
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