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Westside for skinny backstards III

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  • 26-03-2008 10:54am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,021 ✭✭✭


    I'm going to do DeFranco's WS4SB3 for 8 weeks. I plan on cycling my lifts in week 4. If anybody has any advice or tips I would be more than happy to hear from them.

    Day 1: 25/3/2008
    ME Upper:

    Bench Press:
    Bar x12, 60kg x12, 65kgx10, 70kg x8, 75kg x4, 77.5 x3, 83.5 x3 (heavily spotted)

    Chin up:
    BW x20, +10kg x12, x8

    Seated Row/Face-pull superset - L13 x15/L6 x6, L13 x14/L5 x12, L13 x14/L5 x 10, L13 x13/L5 x10

    DB Shrug:
    26kg 'bells x15, x15, x15, x15

    Barbell Curl:
    40kg x12, x12, x6, x8

    Random thoughts:
    Good workout. Too heavy on the bench for the last set and and then on the chins. The row face-pull superset is brutal. Next time I'm going to go for slightly higher weight and less reps. I much prefer BB shrugs so I'm going to change to these.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,021 ✭✭✭Al_Fernz


    Day 2: 26/3/2008

    Kickboxing - 1hr 15mins
    Meh, OK. Can't spar because I sprained my hand a few weeks ago. It was good to stretch though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,021 ✭✭✭Al_Fernz


    Day 3: 27/3/2008

    No Kickboxing - so I trained a little at home. DE leg stuff. Looking at the Westside template I think I might have to skip this workout. I do lots of volume training for the legs in kickboxing so I would say this would compensate.

    Warm-up
    5mins mobility drills
    20 shadow blitzs (working the angles)
    20 reverse blitzs
    10 roundhouses - each leg.
    20 double roundhouses stretching in for the second kick - each leg
    10 hook kick - each leg
    10 jump spinning back kicks to the body - each leg
    10 jump spinning back kicks to the head - each leg

    Bulgarian split squats
    25kg 'bells x12, x12, x12, x12 - each leg

    Lying leg curl
    20kg x15
    30kg x12, x12, x12

    Ab circuit x3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izDf0MCR2DU

    Thoughts:
    Easy stuff. Had to do leg curls - I really wish I had access to a Glute-Ham Raise or somewhere to do hypers.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,021 ✭✭✭Al_Fernz


    Day 4: Rep upper body
    DB Bench
    22kg 'bells x20
    26kg x15
    28kg x11
    26kg x14,14

    Lat pull-down/ Seated DB powerclean superset
    L12 x 12/ 8kg bells x12
    L13 x12/ 20lb bells x12
    L13 x12/ 20lb bells x12
    L13 x12/ 20lb bells x12

    DB Press
    45lb bells x7,x8,x8
    40lb x9

    BB Shrug/BB Curl superset
    95kg x10/40kg x10
    95kg x10/40kg x10
    95kg x10/40kg x10

    Reverse Curl/Tri Kickback superset
    30kg x12/25lbs x12
    30kg x12/25lbs x12
    30kg x12/25lbs x12

    Thoughts. Supersets + Lots of volume = red pumped up man. Bring on ME leg day!


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,548 ✭✭✭siochain


    Al_Fernz wrote: »
    Day 3: 27/3/2008

    No Kickboxing - so I trained a little at home. DE leg stuff. Looking at the Westside template I think I might have to skip this workout. I do lots of volume training for the legs in kickboxing so I would say this would compensate.

    Hi Al, I find the same problem with KB, my legs are usually so tired or stiff after KB it leaves team burnt out for a gym weight session. Any competitions coming up? I find them a great motivator.

    Keep up the good work and have a great week training.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,021 ✭✭✭Al_Fernz


    Day 5: 31/3/08

    Squat:
    40kg x15
    60kg x12
    80kg x8
    95kg x6, x6
    100kg x4
    105kg x3
    110kg x3

    Reverse Lunge
    52kg x16(i.e 8 each leg), x16, x20, x20

    Hyperextensions
    15kg 4x12

    Hanging Leg Raises
    4x15

    Mightn't look like a lot but quite a hard session. Loved it though.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,021 ✭✭✭Al_Fernz


    siochain wrote: »
    Hi Al, I find the same problem with KB, my legs are usually so tired or stiff after KB it leaves team burnt out for a gym weight session. Any competitions coming up? I find them a great motivator.

    Keep up the good work and have a great week training.

    Yeah I find that too. Things that help are: RAM X and stretching after training. That said I've done quite a bit of training when I've been riddled with DOMS and found that after a warm-up I'm fine.

    No comps in the near future. The WAKO eliminations are on today. I would have fought, but I sprained my hand about 2 weeks ago and want to get back to a decent level again. Hopefully, I'll be able to train 2/3 nights a week for the next 2 months and get back to a decent level in sparring.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,548 ✭✭✭siochain


    yeah the RAM is good, but i just don't like all that sugar hitting the system, so I use one scope of RAM and one of unflavoured Whey Isolate.

    good luck with the hand.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,021 ✭✭✭Al_Fernz


    Day 6: 30/3/2008

    Kickboxing 2 hours - good training session. Riddled with DOMS but it went when I warmed up. My legs are starting to feel it again now though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,021 ✭✭✭Al_Fernz


    Day 7: 1/4/2008
    ME Upper:

    Bench Press:
    Bar x20, 60kg x12, 65kgx10, 70kg x6, 72.5kg x4, 75kg x4,x4, 77.5kg x3, 80kg x3

    Chin up:
    BW x22, x20

    Seated Row/Face-pull superset - L13 x12/L6 x12, L14 x10/L7 x10, L14 x10/L7 x 10, L14 x12/L8 x11

    BB Shrug:
    60kg x15, 80kg x10, x10, x15

    BB Curl
    40kg x10, x10, x10, x10

    Random thoughts:

    Bench felt strong.
    Up weight in Chins and Shrugs.
    I like the Row face pull superset.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,021 ✭✭✭Al_Fernz


    Day 8: 2/4/2008

    Kickboxing - 2 hours.

    Very hard training. Lots of volume on the legs so I'm counting this as my dynamic leg day. Sparred well - still need to get sharper tho!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,021 ✭✭✭Al_Fernz


    Day 9: 4/4/08 Rep upper body
    DB Bench
    26kg 'bells x15, x15,x 12, x9

    Lat pull-down/ Seated DB powerclean superset
    L13 x12/ 20lb bells x12
    L13 x12/ 20lb bells x12
    L13 x12/ 20lb bells x12
    L13 x12/ 20lb bells x12

    DB Press
    40lb 'bells x12, x10, x8, x9

    BB Shrug/BB Curl superset
    60kg x15/ 40kg x12
    100kg x6/ 40kg x10
    80kg x12/40kg x10

    Reverse Curl/Tri Kickback superset
    30kg x12/25lbs x12
    30kg x12/25lbs x12
    30kg x12/25lbs x12


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,021 ✭✭✭Al_Fernz


    Day 10: 5/4/08

    Squat:
    60kg x12
    70kg x12
    80kg x10
    95kg x6, x6
    100kg x4
    103.5kg x3
    106kg x2

    Reverse Lunge
    52kg x20(i.e 10 each leg), x20, x20, x20

    Hyperextensions
    15kg 4x12

    Hanging Leg Raises
    4x15


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,021 ✭✭✭Al_Fernz


    Day 11: 7/4/08

    Kickboxing - 2 hours.

    Technique focused so not a hard session. Enjoyed it though and it should carry me through nicely to ME upper tonight.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,021 ✭✭✭Al_Fernz


    Day 12: 8/4/2008
    ME Upper:

    Bench Press:
    Bar x20, 60kg x12, 65kgx10, 70kg x6, 75kg x4, 77.5kg x3, 80kg x3

    Chin up:
    BW+10lbs x20, x16

    Seated Row/Face-pull superset - L13 x12/L7 x12, L14 x12/L7 x12, L14 x12/L7 x 12, L14 x12/L8 x12

    BB Shrug:
    70kg x15, 90kg x15, x15, x15

    BB Curl
    40kg x12, x12
    42.5kg x10, x6


    Random thoughts:
    Very quick session. Almost felt guilty for leaving the gym so early.

    Next time - more sets benching;
    higher weight for shrugs;
    Ab circuit at the end.


  • Registered Users Posts: 654 ✭✭✭Arsenal1986


    Good stuff so far man just a quick note regarding your ME work
    Ur currently doin
    Bench Press:
    Bar x20, 60kg x12, 65kgx10, 70kg x6, 72.5kg x4, 75kg x4,x4, 77.5kg x3, 80kg x3

    your warm up sets contain way too much volume when ur going for a max. Ur using up energy in those warm up sets that ull need for a max. Leave the volume to ur rep days. something like this would be better when going for 3 at 80

    bar x 10 60 x 5 70 x 3 75 x 1 80 x 3 then hopefully 85 x 3 :) then if u wanted to get more volume in could go back do 2 sets of 3 at 77.5 or something

    jus thought id say it cause i was doing the same an when i started warming up properly put 5 kilos on my me days striaght away


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,021 ✭✭✭Al_Fernz


    Good stuff so far man just a quick note regarding your ME work
    Ur currently doin
    Bench Press:
    Bar x20, 60kg x12, 65kgx10, 70kg x6, 72.5kg x4, 75kg x4,x4, 77.5kg x3, 80kg x3

    your warm up sets contain way too much volume when ur going for a max. Ur using up energy in those warm up sets that ull need for a max. Leave the volume to ur rep days. something like this would be better when going for 3 at 80

    bar x 10 60 x 5 70 x 3 75 x 1 80 x 3 then hopefully 85 x 3 :) then if u wanted to get more volume in could go back do 2 sets of 3 at 77.5 or something

    jus thought id say it cause i was doing the same an when i started warming up properly put 5 kilos on my me days striaght away

    Thanks a lot man. I'm definitely going to try that next week. I'd have to admit that I'm a bit of a headless chicken when it comes to the ME stuff - I like to blast out for as much reps as possible.

    Would you advise I take the same approach with the ME leg day? Or does what I'm doing look OK??

    Can't wait for ME day next week!


  • Registered Users Posts: 654 ✭✭✭Arsenal1986


    what ur doin now:
    Squat:
    60kg x12
    70kg x12
    80kg x10
    95kg x6, x6
    100kg x4
    103.5kg x3
    106kg x2

    looks grand cept what id do is similarily to the bench eg bar x 10 60 x 5 70 x 3 80 x 3 90 x 2 100 x 1 then go for ur 106 x 3 or 110 or whatever. Then id do the other sets eg your 95 x 6 100 x 4 etc. that way ur getting volume in but its not affecting ur max!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,021 ✭✭✭Al_Fernz


    that way ur getting volume in but its not affecting ur max!

    Good call


  • Registered Users Posts: 654 ✭✭✭Arsenal1986


    seein as ur not doin the dynamic effort day maybe could throw in some of the DE stuff at end of ur leg workout something like box jumps might help with explosiveness for kickboxing too?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,021 ✭✭✭Al_Fernz


    seein as ur not doin the dynamic effort day maybe could throw in some of the DE stuff at end of ur leg workout something like box jumps might help with explosiveness for kickboxing too?

    Did some box jumps in training last night as it happens!

    Day 13 9/4/2008

    Kickboxing 2 hrs - Circuit training, stretching, padwork and about 45mins sparring


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,021 ✭✭✭Al_Fernz


    Day 14 11/4/2008

    Max Rep Upper:

    DB Bench: 26kg DBs x15, x14, x12, x14
    Lat Pull Down/ Seated DB power clean SS: L13/20lb DBs 4x(x12/x12)
    DB MP: 40lbs 4x12
    BB Shrug/BB Curl SS: 100kg/40kg 3x(x12/x10)
    Rev Curl/Tri kickbacks SS: 32.5kg/25lb DB 3x(x12/x10)

    Bad session. Had a bit of a cold and still didnt feel right. However at the end of it I was happy that I got through it. Defo going to increase some of these lifts next week.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,021 ✭✭✭Al_Fernz


    Day 15: 12/3/08

    ME Lower:

    Squat:
    Bar x12
    60kg x8
    80kg x5
    90kg x5
    95kg x3
    100kg x3
    105kg x3
    114kg x3
    93kg (3x6)

    Reverse Lunge
    52kg 2x20(i.e 10 each leg)
    60kg 2x16

    Hyperextensions
    15kg 4x12

    Hanging Leg Raises
    4x15

    Liked this one. Squat was strong and very deep. Lifting less in my warm ups definitely helped. Cheers for that Arsenal1986!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,021 ✭✭✭Al_Fernz


    Day 16: 14/4/08

    Kickboxing - 2 hours


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,021 ✭✭✭Al_Fernz


    Day 17: 15/4/2008
    ME Upper:

    Bench Press:
    Bar x12,
    50kg x10,
    60kg x8,
    65kgx5,
    70kg x5,
    75kg x3,
    77.5kg x3,
    80kg x3,
    82.5kg x3

    Chin up:
    BW+5kg x20, x14

    Seated Row/Face-pull superset - L14 x12/L9 x11, L14 x12/L9 x10, L14 x10/L9 x 10, L14 x12/L9 x12

    BB Shrug:
    60kg x15,
    100kg x5, x5
    110kg x5
    90kg x15

    BB Curl
    40kg x12,
    42.5kg x10, x6, x8

    Random thoughts:

    Progress on bench - back of the net! Had a spotter for the last two reps but I didn't need him.

    Rest of the session - meh


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,021 ✭✭✭Al_Fernz


    Day 18: 16/4/08

    Kickboxing - 2 hours


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,021 ✭✭✭Al_Fernz


    Day 19: 17/4/08

    Kickboxing - 2 hours 15 mins


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,021 ✭✭✭Al_Fernz


    Day 20 18/4/2008

    Max Rep Upper:

    DB Bench: 26kg DBs x15, x15, x15, x14
    Lat Pull Down/ Seated DB power clean SS: L13/20lb DBs 4x(x10/x12)
    DB MP: 45lbs 4x8
    BB Shrug/BB Curl SS: 100kg/40kg 3x(x12/x10)

    Tough workout. I met a mate I hadn't seen in a while and I chatted so that had a negative effect on the session. Need to up the DB press.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,021 ✭✭✭Al_Fernz


    Day 21: 19/4/08

    ME Lower:

    Squat:
    Bar x12
    60kg x8
    84kg x5
    92kg x5
    97kg x3
    102kg x3
    107kg x3
    110kg x3
    116kg x3
    93kg (3x6)

    Reverse Lunge
    60kg 3x16, 1x14(i.e 8 each leg)

    Hyperextensions
    15kg 4x15

    Hanging Leg Raises
    4x15


    Good workout. Added 2kg onto my squat. Spotter reakons I still had another rep in me at 116kg. Hopefully, I'll break 120 before the end of the program. The rest of the workout was fine. I was pretty shattered from the squats though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,021 ✭✭✭Al_Fernz


    Day 22: 21/4/08

    Kickboxing - 2hrs

    Very technique focused session. Nothing too heavy.


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  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 9,521 Mod ✭✭✭✭BossArky


    What weight / height / age are you? Couldn't see it in your log.


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