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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,021 ✭✭✭Al_Fernz


    BossArky wrote: »
    What weight / height / age are you? Couldn't see it in your log.

    Hey man, I'm 76kg / 6ft / 23.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,021 ✭✭✭Al_Fernz


    Day 23: 22/4/2008
    ME Upper:

    Bench Press:
    Bar x12,
    60kg x8,
    65kg x5,
    70kg x5,
    75kg x3,
    80kg x3,
    82.5kg x3
    85kg x3

    Chin up:
    BW+7.5kg x12, x15, x12

    Seated Row/Face-pull superset - L14 x10/L9 x10, L14 x10/L9 x10, L14 x10/L9 x 10, L14 x12/L9 x12

    BB Shrug:
    80kg x15
    95kg x12, x12, x12

    BB Curl
    42.5kg x10, x6, x5
    40kg x10

    Bench went up again. Hopefully I'll hit 87.5 next time - fingers x'ed.

    Still had lots in the tank by the end of the session.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,021 ✭✭✭Al_Fernz


    Day 24: 23/4/2008

    Kickboxing - 2 hours

    Warm-up, Padwork, sparring and stretching


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,021 ✭✭✭Al_Fernz


    Day 24: 23/4/2008

    10 mins jogging to track

    40 yard sprints x10

    5 mins mobility drills

    Bulgarian Split Squats
    22kg x12, x12, x12, x12

    Hypers:
    15kg 3x15

    Hamstring curl
    L12 x12
    L14 x12, x10, x10

    Ab circuit x3

    Thoughts:

    I've gotten so slow. I'm not running regularly and it was really a shock to start again. No times on the sprints but I'd say there down on what I used to do.

    Rest of the session was grand. Split squats were very easy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,021 ✭✭✭Al_Fernz


    Day 25 24/4/2008

    Max Rep Upper:

    DB Bench: 28kg DBs x12, x12, x10, x10
    Lat Pull Down/ Seated DB power clean SS: L13/20lb DBs 4x(x10/x12)
    DB MP: 45lbs x10, x10, x 8, x8
    BB Shrug/BB Curl SS: 90kg/40kg 3x 12/10

    Good workout.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,021 ✭✭✭Al_Fernz


    Day 26: 25/4/08

    ME Lower:

    Squat:
    60kg x8
    84kg x5
    92kg x5
    101kg x3
    111kg x3
    116kg x3
    119kg x3
    93kg (2x8)

    Reverse Lunge
    60kg 2x16, 2x12

    Hyperextensions
    15kg 4x15

    Hanging Leg Raises
    4x15

    Planning to hit 120 up next week. Feeling a little tired going into this session.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,021 ✭✭✭Al_Fernz


    Day 27:
    Kickboxing - 2 hours

    Not great. I felt very stiff. Not DOMS but my legs didn't want to stretch and felt heavy. Sparred very sluggishly. Mama said there'd be days like this!


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 9,521 Mod ✭✭✭✭BossArky


    Al_Fernz wrote: »
    Hey man, I'm 76kg / 6ft / 23.

    Wow, you must be lean! I'm just a kg or two lighter at 5' 7''. Nice bench and squat at that weight / leanness(sp?).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,021 ✭✭✭Al_Fernz


    BossArky wrote: »
    Wow, you must be lean! I'm just a kg or two lighter at 5' 7''. Nice bench and squat at that weight / leanness(sp?).

    Thanks man. I'm happy with the slight improvements I've made with the weights. I'm tall-ish, but I have really long femurs so I find squatting ATG with my legs quite tough.

    I'm more skinny really than lean at this stage :(. I've started to put on some weight recently which should hopefully reverse the "rake-iness" (is this a word?) of my physique. :cool:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,021 ✭✭✭Al_Fernz


    Day 28: 29/4/2008
    ME Upper:

    Bench Press:
    Bar x12,
    60kg x8,
    65kg x5,
    70kg x5,
    75kg x3,
    80kg x3,
    85kg x3
    87.5kg x3 *failed on the second rep spotter helped with those two. I'll have to give this another crack next week.

    wide grip pull up - super slow tempo
    BW x12, x15

    Seated Row/Face-pull superset - L14 x10/L9 x10, L14 x10/L9 x10, L14 x10/L9 x 10, L14 x10/L9 x12

    BB Shrug:
    95kg x12, x12, x12
    60kg (holding for 2 seconds) x15, x15

    BB Curl
    40kg 3x12
    30kg 2x15

    Wasn't feeling in the mood tonight. Need better quality sleep. Also I think I'm feeling a little burnt out from last week when I trained hard everyday - only taking a break on Sunday.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    I've been watching and waiting for you to miss a bench. I was wondering how long you could push it for before it caught up on you!!

    If ya miss again next week it's definately time to change the exercises. Maybe to something like an incline bench or close grip bench (I'd personally favour incline because close grip is too similar to normal benching)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,021 ✭✭✭Al_Fernz


    Hanley wrote: »
    I've been watching and waiting for you to miss a bench. I was wondering how long you could push it for before it caught up on you!!

    If I knew that I would have pushed it harder just to prove you wrong!:pac:
    If ya miss again next week it's definately time to change the exercises. Maybe to something like an incline bench or close grip bench (I'd personally favour incline because close grip is too similar to normal benching)

    No you're right. I think I'll start next week. This would have been my 6th week ME training. Although - given the way I started it was actually only my 3rd proper week ME training. I planned to do WS4SB 3 for 8 weeks take a few days off and then try something new. The jump up from 85kgs to 87.5kg felt huge - even though it was only like 2.5kgs.

    I think I'll switch to inclines for 2 weeks and see how it pans out.

    Thanks for the advice man - much appreciated.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,021 ✭✭✭Al_Fernz


    Day 29: 30/4/2008

    Kickboxing - 2 hours

    Balls to the wall session. Warm-up took 20 minutes and included non-stop punching on the pads followed by 10metre sprints this took 2mins. Then 2 sets of 1 minute wall sits with 10 jumping squats at the end. Streching with a partner was next and we were told to stretch our partner up until the point where they couldn't talk. Pad work and sparring followed. Pretty savage session - just what I needed after that dodgy ME day on Tuesday.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,021 ✭✭✭Al_Fernz


    Day 30: 1/5/2008

    5x 40 yard sprints
    5x 40/40 yard sprints i.e. 40 there and 40 back
    Mobility drills
    30 minutes stretching

    Nice and easy. Big sprinting improvement.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,021 ✭✭✭Al_Fernz


    Day 31: 2/5/2008


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    Day 25 24/4/2008

    Max Rep Upper:

    DB Bench: 28kg DBs x12, x12, x14, x13
    Lat Pull Down/ Seated DB power clean SS: L13/20lb DBs 4x(x10/x12)
    DB MP: 45lbs x9, x9, x 8, x8
    BB Shrug/BB Curl SS: 90kg/40kg 3x 12/10

    Felt tired - pushed through it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,021 ✭✭✭Al_Fernz


    Day 32: 3/5/08

    ME Lower:

    Squat:
    Bar x12
    60kg x8
    70kg x5
    92kg x5
    103kg x3
    120kg x2
    93kg (x10,x8,x8)

    Reverse Lunge
    60kg 3x16

    Hyperextensions
    15kg 4x15

    Hanging Leg Raises
    4x15

    Totally wussed out of the 120x3. The first two were handy, but I don't know what happened for the last one. Spotter was shocked that I didn't go for it.

    Pretty wrecked after that session. The rest today and tomorrow should set me up nicely for tuesday.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,021 ✭✭✭Al_Fernz


    Day 33: 6/5/2008
    ME Upper:

    Incline Bench Press:
    Bar x12,
    40kg x8,
    50kg x5,
    60kg x5,
    65kg x3,
    70kg x3,
    75kg x3
    77.5kg x3
    80 x3 Spotter said he didn't touch the bar - I'd like to believe him.

    wide grip pull up - super slow tempo
    BW x14, x14

    Seated Row/Face-pull superset - 4x (L14 x10/L9 x10)

    BB Shrug:
    95kg x12, x12, x12, x15

    BB Curl
    40kg 4x12

    Music- rage against the machine - renegades

    Comments-
    Good workout. I felt full of energy after the extra day's rest over the weekend.

    I found the incline bench a lot tougher than flat - but I suppose thats the way its supposed to be. After the few warm-up sets I was confident in my form. The rest of the session was fine. I thinking of doing one more week of WS4SB (8 weeks in total) and then maybe moving onto something different.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,021 ✭✭✭Al_Fernz


    Day 34: 7/5/2008

    Kickboxing - 2 hours.

    Good training session. Hall was like a sauna - and my tee was stuck to me by the end! Sparred the best I've done in a while - until I got poked in the eye.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 405 ✭✭Patto


    Hey Al_Fernz,

    You've been doing some really good work.

    Do you compete as kickboxing? Do you find much carry over from the weights to the kickboxing or visa versa?

    Patto.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,021 ✭✭✭Al_Fernz


    Patto wrote: »
    Hey Al_Fernz,

    You've been doing some really good work.

    Do you compete as kickboxing? Do you find much carry over from the weights to the kickboxing or visa versa?

    Patto.

    Hey Patto,

    Thanks for the encouragement.

    I used to do every tournament I could when I started kickboxing. However, in the last year I've only really done one - due to injuries and loss of form. However, I've had a decent run with training recently and I'm starting to get sharp and hit form again. Hopefully, I'll start competing again soon - my trophy cabinet is starting to luck a bit bare:pac:

    I'm not really sure that there's much of a carryover between the weights and kickboxing. I fight semi-contact so its more about timing and speed rather than power. This is a random video of the type of sparring I do:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwFAUUOuQS4

    I only really took up weights because I had a hamstring injury last year and the physio recommended that I lift some iron as part of rehab. After my first session I knew that I was hooked.

    I used to go kickboxing 3-4 days a week as oppose to 1-2. When I was doing this I was a much better fighter. So, in a way lifting has hindered my kickboxing. However, I could never give up lifting now because I love it too much. Right now I'm trying to balance the two. The variation between the two helps to motivate me because I find that my motivation levels drop when my training becomes too repetitive.

    Keep up the good work yourself mate!:)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,021 ✭✭✭Al_Fernz


    Day 35 9/5/2008

    Max Rep Upper:

    DB Bench: 28kg DBs x12, x13, x14, x13
    Lat Pull Down/ Seated DB power clean SS: L13/20lb DBs 2x(x12/x12), L14/20lb 1x(x10/x12), 1x(x10,x15)
    DB MP: 45lbs x8, x8, x 8, x8
    BB Shrug/BB Curl SS: 100kg/40kg 3x 12/10

    Very good workout.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,021 ✭✭✭Al_Fernz


    Day 36: 10/5/08

    ME Lower:

    Squat:
    Bar x12
    60kg x5
    80kg x5
    92kg x3
    100kg x3
    110kg x3
    120kg x2
    93kg (x8,x10,x10)

    Reverse Lunge
    60kg 4x16

    Hyperextensions
    15kg 4x15

    Hanging Leg Raises
    4x15

    Ab circuits x3

    Missed the 120kgx3 again. I think I'm going to do Deadlifts next week on the ME lower day.


  • Registered Users Posts: 654 ✭✭✭Arsenal1986


    now that youve been at this max effort craic a while maybe consider going for ones instead of threes? I know defranceo says threes as there might be a hypertrophy effect but to be honest i dont think anyone builds much muscle directly from max effort sets.....also if ur doin deadlifts as ur max movement still do squats except maybe go higher reps few sets of 5s.....just my 2 cents!


  • Registered Users Posts: 654 ✭✭✭Arsenal1986


    another thought on way ur leg day is at mo....not enuf posterior chain stuff there defo have soime kind of pull - romanian deadlifts, sumo deadlifts in there and maybe some glute ham raises or reverse hypers?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,021 ✭✭✭Al_Fernz


    Cheers Arsenal,

    I was going to change things up on the leg days. Next week I'm going to do:

    Conventional DLs - work up to 1 - rep max
    ATG Squats - maybe something like 100kg 3x5
    Rev Lunge - 4x16
    Hypers and hanging leg raises.

    I'm actually debating whether or not to leave Lunges in or out. Doing them usually leaves me riddled with DOMS for a good 2 days after.

    As for the GHR and reverse hypers - I wish I had those facilites available for me to do those bad boys!

    Might do the above for two weeks and then I was planning on totally changing things up. I'm thinking about doing a 3 day split with 5x5's on Bench, Dealift and Squat and then doing other exercises that fit into a Chest/Shoulders/Triceps, Back/Biceps, Legs/Abs split.


  • Registered Users Posts: 654 ✭✭✭Arsenal1986


    yea that looks good id leave reverse lunges out for a while to change things up if nothing else step ups, bulgarian split squats maybe? 4 x 16 prob bit too much volume on top of the squats which mayb reason for all the doms.....maybe 2 x 12 would be better? as for doin a three day split i reckon ur better off wit defrancos considering ur doin it to compliment ur kickboxing?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,021 ✭✭✭Al_Fernz


    Yes, I am. But I've done 7 weeks of it already and I feel like I need to freshen things up a bit. I think I might do ME incline bench and ME deadlift for about 3 more weeks and then look at starting something new. Also I'm going to consider mixing up the MAX REP day too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,021 ✭✭✭Al_Fernz


    Day 37: 12/5/2008

    Kickboxing - 2 hours

    Very technical session. I picked up a bit of a strain in my left Lat area. Hopefully Ibuprofren gel and deep heat should help me get through training tonight. It's actually feeling a little better today already.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,021 ✭✭✭Al_Fernz


    Day 38: 13/5/2008
    ME Upper:

    Incline Bench Press:
    Bar x12,
    50kg x5,
    60kg x5,
    65kg x3,
    70kg x3,
    75kg x3,
    80kg x3

    wide grip pull up
    BW x14, x17

    Bent over row/bent over rear delt flye
    50kg/20lb 2x12
    60kg/20lb 2x12

    BB Shrug:
    100kg x12, x12, x12, x12

    BB Curl
    40kg 4x12

    I'm going to try and crank out 82.5 next week on the incline.

    It felt good switching things up an doing the row rear delt flye superset. I'll up the weight on this next week too me thinks.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,021 ✭✭✭Al_Fernz


    Day 39: 14/5/2008

    Kickboxing - 2 hours

    Decent session. Lots of sprinting and stretching. Nailed this guy in the head with a kick in the head sparring. It felt very, very good. Does this make me evil?:pac:


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