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Nasty attitude in work!!
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28-03-2008 7:22pm#1
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Thanks for the replies guys. I will try to get a new job but for the time being I have no choice but to work here. I know I'll have a legal case if I get an official warning for it but I don't know if she'll be that stupid, surely she knows that she cant fire somebody for a medical reason. She's sneaky, she'll either make a holy show of me in front of loads of people and pass nasty comments to me or else I'll 'conveniently' get into trouble with her over something else. I've seen it with her before (on a less serious scale) where one new employee and one old employee are talking and she makes the new girl clean her office upstairs as a punishment while the other girl gets away with it. She's just a dragon. So for the next few weeks I do have to work there (she said that if we only give two weeks notice we will not be given any bonus we've earned, so we must give one months notice before leaving) I want to be able to deal with her as professionally as possible without resorting to such childish behaviour.
So for example, if she makes another comment like "Oh this one's causing more trouble" (like she said when I told her I was sick) how do I answer her without getting fired but without being walked all over???
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Hello again,
So.... Looooadds has happened since I last posted. She really lost the run of herself, cow. She decided to take a randomer in off the street to take our head supervisors (lets call her Miss
position as training manager. Ridiculous. Now expects the supervisors to actually train in this new girl (who has never even worked in the shop and doesn't know what's on the shelves. Yet she can just walk in and take over from all the hard work the supervisor did. If it wasn't for her, there'd be no sales, that woman dedicated everything to it) All of the staff are devestated. Promotion has always been in this order: sales assistant - supervisor- training manager - manager! It has always been an internal applicant also. (simply because they know what is needed to keep everything run smoothly)
Anyway the boss did it all out of spite. She never told Miss B that she had not been promoted but told other staff and then laughed and asked for Miss B not to be told anything. It was all so sneaky. Anyway the staff that were told to lie to Miss B were very hurt (we all really like Miss B, she's done so much for us when the boss wouldn't even look at us) and handed in their notice. Two more members of staff have also left. There are currently six more members of staff writing their last notice. Not just for the Miss B issue but also for everything else she's done. We found out about some really bad things happening in the work place and her personal, underhanded schemes to cause trouble. She has been saying things to certain members of staff about other employees to try start fights between us. She has also hired lots more staff and cut all of our hours by HALF because we dared complain about it all.
Rather than pushing us apart she has tied us together. We have all said we are out as soon as a new job arises. There have also been anonymous calls made to the head office to highlight everything. We were thinking of writing one joint letter, signed by each member of staff.
Are we over reacting? We are all so hurt, I know it is her choice to employ whoever she wants but this is only one problem. There has been so much. I now feel so stupid for allowing her to pass all those personal comments before, having been made aware that each and EVERY single member of staff hating her, I really should have stood up to her.
Is there anything Miss B can do? She's worked for the company for two years. The boss has worked for them for 6 months, one month longer than me. (we also found out her and the manager who hired her are best of pals, how convenient!!)
I also know about lots of other illegal stuff happening there (Its so bad, I'm scared to even say it. You guys wouldn't believe it, it's really, really bad) but I just feel scared now it's all coming to a head. I'm stunned by how childish she is and how little professionalism she shows. I should have known though. I caught her and another girl bitch about me in the office two weeks after I started working there. I should've known she was not manager material.
I don't want her in serious trouble but our whole team wants to leave, there's tears galore and we're all stressed and sick. She's been manager about a month now and it's gotten this bad
On a brighter note, I MIGHT be getting a job which pays much more and involves much easier work. I should get a call Monday
Fingers crossed 0 -
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I didn't get any replies to my last post but I really hope somebody can shed some light on what can be done here. Okay so since I last posted most of the staff have left. There are only three of the original team left there. The four supervisors that were originally there have now fallen to only one. Things have gotten far worse for me too I'm so stressed right now I don't know what to do. I was left in a supervisor position yesterday and I had to train her new staff. In the time I was in charge (there was no manager or real supervisor in the store) the new girls and myself had made more money than had been made in the previous two hours. Then I found out from the real supervisor (who is a very sweet and genuine lady) that the bi*ch of a boss had been saying that I am a bad worker and that another girl (who also makes a lotta money for the place) is a bad worker. None of this is true. Even my last post stated that I rarely ever let her down. Even when I needed time off for a doctor I cancelled my appointment and worked instead. Everyone is saying that she is trying to get rid of all of us who were hired by the last manager.
She also has me working during one of my exams but I'm afraid to complain because she's already cut my hours down to just FOUR A WEEK! I don't know how I'll afford my rent and I can't work the hours she gave me during my exams either.
I'm still waiting on feedback from my interview. They said it'll be two weeks before they will choose somebody. I'm hoping so much that I get it because all my training and devotion to that job has been a complete waste She's looking for excuses to fire us all or drive us out. She's even been trying to make fights between us. We were told we are not allowed to have a union either. Now I am in a horrible situation and there's nothing I can do until my exams are over.. It's all such a mess. 0 -
Nope, you're not overeacting at all. I see you posted this a couple of weeks ago, so I do hope you got that new job of yours. Let me know pls, to satisfy my own curiosity.
There's been so much activity going on in your job and environment, and action is well overdue. I'm presuming there's an area manager of some sort you could complain to, or, failing that, you need to get in touch with the National Employment Rights Agency (I think that's the name. It's NERA, anyway) or Citizen's Information and get it sorted. You shouldn't be made to feel like you do in your job. It's wrong on so many levels. If I were you, I would seriously consider taking legal action of some sort. Get advice on what to do, and DO IT!
It might all be sorted by now anyway, as I'm a bit late posting this. I hope so!
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Hello again,
So.... Looooadds has happened since I last posted. She really lost the run of herself, cow. She decided to take a randomer in off the street to take our head supervisors (lets call her Miss position as training manager. Ridiculous. Now expects the supervisors to actually train in this new girl (who has never even worked in the shop and doesn't know what's on the shelves. Yet she can just walk in and take over from all the hard work the supervisor did. If it wasn't for her, there'd be no sales, that woman dedicated everything to it) All of the staff are devestated. Promotion has always been in this order: sales assistant - supervisor- training manager - manager! It has always been an internal applicant also. (simply because they know what is needed to keep everything run smoothly)
Anyway the boss did it all out of spite. She never told Miss B that she had not been promoted but told other staff and then laughed and asked for Miss B not to be told anything. It was all so sneaky. Anyway the staff that were told to lie to Miss B were very hurt (we all really like Miss B, she's done so much for us when the boss wouldn't even look at us) and handed in their notice. Two more members of staff have also left. There are currently six more members of staff writing their last notice. Not just for the Miss B issue but also for everything else she's done. We found out about some really bad things happening in the work place and her personal, underhanded schemes to cause trouble. She has been saying things to certain members of staff about other employees to try start fights between us. She has also hired lots more staff and cut all of our hours by HALF because we dared complain about it all.
Rather than pushing us apart she has tied us together. We have all said we are out as soon as a new job arises. There have also been anonymous calls made to the head office to highlight everything. We were thinking of writing one joint letter, signed by each member of staff.
Are we over reacting? We are all so hurt, I know it is her choice to employ whoever she wants but this is only one problem. There has been so much. I now feel so stupid for allowing her to pass all those personal comments before, having been made aware that each and EVERY single member of staff hating her, I really should have stood up to her.
Is there anything Miss B can do? She's worked for the company for two years. The boss has worked for them for 6 months, one month longer than me. (we also found out her and the manager who hired her are best of pals, how convenient!!)
I also know about lots of other illegal stuff happening there (Its so bad, I'm scared to even say it. You guys wouldn't believe it, it's really, really bad) but I just feel scared now it's all coming to a head. I'm stunned by how childish she is and how little professionalism she shows. I should have known though. I caught her and another girl bitch about me in the office two weeks after I started working there. I should've known she was not manager material.
I don't want her in serious trouble but our whole team wants to leave, there's tears galore and we're all stressed and sick. She's been manager about a month now and it's gotten this bad
On a brighter note, I MIGHT be getting a job which pays much more and involves much easier work. I should get a call Monday Fingers crossed
I know this thread has been gathering dust, But could your colleagues not each write a letter about what happened to the supervisor B and request an investigation from head office. If the investigation doesn't happen perhaps support supervisor B in a labour relations hearing. I dont know if your supervisor is the nightmare that you make her out to be.
It's her Job to ensure all staff attend work and it is more than likely company policy for staff to contact their supervisor in advance if they are going to miss work. You did not contact your supervisor when you felt sick. You waited until you were on the way to the hospital. Did you attend you university doctor or a fee paying doctor?
I imagine it was the university Doctor. They are sensitive and would send someone/student to hospital if they complain they are very sick. In fact most Doctors are sensitive to patients and quite cordial and will happily provide a med cert.
Supervisors are hard nosed in this respect. Your a young and innocent person , but at one stage half the population of Ireland had no problem getting med certs from doctors. It is a recognised statistical fact and one which has been proven ( prison officers ) and overtime. As a consequence I imagine that the last few years have been hard for private doctors as this trend has drastically changed due to new measures.
If you felt so sick then why were you in college and whilst you were in college at what stage did you decide that you were not going to work. As it would have been at this stage that you should have informed your supervisor that you had doubts about attending work and were instead going to see the doctor.
As for hiring internally, that might not be the case and you said yourself supervisor B was still in training. Are so certain that she hired the new supervisor and or supervisor B wasn't interviewed or accepted the job, was there an issue with qualifications. Sometimes You do need qualifications.
Are you sure its not
Level of Qualification higher than rest of sales assistants.
Sales assistant - Supervisor
Level of Qualification higher than supervisor has
Trainee manager - Manager
Otherwise why waste your energy getting qualifications if it is on a first come first serve basis. If no one including the manager has qualifications than who is to say what the bench mark is for proficency and competence and what defines being assidous at your Job, You might find that qualifications sometimes help such as marketing and sales and management skills and experience and qualifications as well as HR Skills, experience. Whilst just trying to fit in and get along and doing your job to become the next supervisor and might have nothing to do with being a good employee or give you the skills to be a supervisor.
In saying all of this supervisors and management can be the heartless and do delibertely cause stress and the further you escalate an issue to try resolve an issue the greater stress management can generate. Stress under the safety and welfare act is something they are responsible to try resolving and should be alleviating stress on an employee. Managers often fail to do this and Whether managers are incompetent or have ulterior motives ( Un-naturally unjust and unfair reasons) they wish to keep secret from you, it is always a bad situation if managers create more stress for an employee than alleviate and that why qualifications and skills come in handy here.
It is no surprise it is a living hell!0
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