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Pitch And Putt

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 783 ✭✭✭HITMANHEALY


    Dromcill wrote: »
    Best of luck HITMAN but by the sounds of it, you don't need it. Home advantage really counts in Pitch and Putt. If our team are lucky enough to qualify (emphasis on lucky !!!!) in the Cork qualifiers, maybe we can meet up at the finals in Dublin.

    Ty u to, were of 1/1/2 handicap so going to have to shoot low


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 998 ✭✭✭Kingdom


    Dromcill wrote: »
    As regards the National Matchplay, I'd say Ray Murphy is the man to beat again. He is coming into form and won the Cork Charity Scratch Cup last weekend at the ESB club.

    Playing myself this weekend in the National Scramble Qualifying in Cork at Kilmichael. First time playing in a P&P scramble so looking forward to it. 26 teams with 10 to qualify for the finals. Anyone else playing in the National Scramble qualifiers?.

    Good mix of handicaps playing in the Cork qualifiers so it will be interesting to see the mix of Senior, Intermediate or Junior teams that get through. I think a team of high handicapers will be hard to beat if they play well enough as any all senior teams would have to hit the ground running and dyke their way around the course to make up for the handicap differneces

    Welcome dromcill! yes I think everyone would agree that ray is the man to beat, on a course that he seems to do well on.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 72 ✭✭Dromcill


    Nice to see a P&P forum

    Our team of 3 for the National Scramble have handicaps of 9/9/7 so we have plenty of shots to play with. What kind of score would be considered a good score in a P&P scramble for 36 holes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 783 ✭✭✭HITMANHEALY


    Dromcill wrote: »
    Nice to see a P&P forum

    Our team of 3 for the National Scramble have handicaps of 9/9/7 so we have plenty of shots to play with. What kind of score would be considered a good score in a P&P scramble for 36 holes.

    In dublin the scoring we be from 7 under to 18 under think u will need 30 anyway net to qualify, always leave ur best pitcher and putter to last and play in a sequence that ur happy withm with ur handicap 7 to 10 under u would have a good chance to qualify


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 72 ✭✭Dromcill


    Thanks for the scramble advice HITMAN. A good strategy is important. Pressure will be on the third man to sink those putts. I suppose the first (weakest) putter (assuming one of the three pitches get on the green) should play safe to get the ball up to the hole. Putters 2 and 3 can then be aggressive with their putts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 998 ✭✭✭Kingdom


    Dromcill wrote: »
    Nice to see a P&P forum

    Our team of 3 for the National Scramble have handicaps of 9/9/7 so we have plenty of shots to play with. What kind of score would be considered a good score in a P&P scramble for 36 holes.

    Its not a forum yet! :D thats why must post everyday so the nice people who run boards.ie will give us our own sub-forum :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 998 ✭✭✭Kingdom


    The scoring will be hard to work out as I'm led to believe its an all-nett competition.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 72 ✭✭Dromcill


    Gives us Intermediate/Junior players a chance to mix it with the big boys. All the top seniors in Cork are playing so it will be our chance for once to be competitive with them in the same competition.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 998 ✭✭✭Kingdom


    Dromcill wrote: »
    Gives us Intermediate/Junior players a chance to mix it with the big boys. All the top seniors in Cork are playing so it will be our chance for once to be competitive with them in the same competition.

    have plenty of time for non-seniors myself. Thats whats so good about the NAtional matchplay all grades are together. I remember the first couple of years out of adults I took great pleasure as an inter at knocking seniors out of the qualifying and running a couple of others close. Remember Campions Wigertoods? A miracle chip and a miracle putt or you were gone!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,676 ✭✭✭The Artist


    National Ladies Strokeplay Qualifying 7-8 june

    Ladies Matchplay Championshps July 5-6

    Munster Juniors Strokeplay Regional Qualifying 7 July

    Fermoy Pitch And Putt Open 28-29-30-31 July
    1-2-3-4 August
    We wish all the best to all the players attending these venues good luck:)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 235 ✭✭Wigertoods


    Kingdom wrote: »
    have plenty of time for non-seniors myself. Thats whats so good about the NAtional matchplay all grades are together. I remember the first couple of years out of adults I took great pleasure as an inter at knocking seniors out of the qualifying and running a couple of others close. Remember Campions Wigertoods? A miracle chip and a miracle putt or you were gone!

    Yeah I've gone through a few scary moments in the matchlay qualifiers.
    I qualified for quite a few National M/P as an inter.I think the most memorable was beaten Harkins in cy on the final night.(I had only joined the club a month previous and was playing off 6 at the time.)

    In a bit of trouble at the moment.I have only played about 3 rounds in the last couple of months.Had a bad sprain in my wrist and still hasn't healed yet.Need to get it sorted quick or I'll be watching from the sidelines all year.:(:(:(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 235 ✭✭Wigertoods


    Jesus Kingdom you had me thinking hard there for a minute.That was a long time ago.Couldn't be seen to be beaten by an Inter :D (Think of the stick I'd have got).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 783 ✭✭✭HITMANHEALY


    Wigertoods wrote: »
    Yeah I've gone through a few scary moments in the matchlay qualifiers.
    I qualified for quite a few National M/P as an inter.I think the most memorable was beaten Harkins in cy on the final night.(I had only joined the club a month previous and was playing off 6 at the time.)

    In a bit of trouble at the moment.I have only played about 3 rounds in the last couple of months.Had a bad sprain in my wrist and still hasn't healed yet.Need to get it sorted quick or I'll be watching from the sidelines all year.:(:(:(

    Wiger i did serious enough damage to my wrist on a drunken fall in lanzarote in September bad sprain and chipped a bone, the pro sport wrist bandages are very good help me play without pain (get them in the chemist), i was 2 months playing with it, that might help u


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 783 ✭✭✭HITMANHEALY


    Wigertoods wrote: »
    Jesus Kingdom you had me thinking hard there for a minute.That was a long time ago.Couldn't be seen to be beaten by an Inter :D (Think of the stick I'd have got).

    I have to play an inter in the first game and hopefulyl i get through that i face another


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32 DugOut


    Let me tell you, Wigertoods, it's tough on the sidelines!! I hope you get back into it soon.
    As for the scramle, I thnk -30 will be the cut off in Dublin but then again as Hitman said if the wind blows and all that. I think its 21 quailifiers in Dublin, is it not?
    Is Loughlinstown in good condition?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 783 ✭✭✭HITMANHEALY


    DugOut wrote: »
    Let me tell you, Wigertoods, it's tough on the sidelines!! I hope you get back into it soon.
    As for the scramle, I thnk -30 will be the cut off in Dublin but then again as Hitman said if the wind blows and all that. I think its 21 quailifiers in Dublin, is it not?
    Is Loughlinstown in good condition?

    According to the weather it be a bit gusty not too bad, i play out of loughlinstown and the course has picked up so much in the past month or so, the grenns will have a through roll on them, theres a whole days work on today so hopefulyl it be the best condition its been all year, dugout u playing tomorrow


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 72 ✭✭Dromcill


    Let us know how your teams get on at the National Scramble over the weekend. Should be a fun weekend of P&P.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 235 ✭✭Wigertoods


    Wiger i did serious enough damage to my wrist on a drunken fall in lanzarote in September bad sprain and chipped a bone, the pro sport wrist bandages are very good help me play without pain (get them in the chemist), i was 2 months playing with it, that might help u

    Cheers Hitman will look into that.Have to agree with Dugout it really is no fun watchin others playing.Especially in the major championships.

    Best of luck to all teams in Loughlinstown over the weekend.
    If possible maybe those playing can post their scores here.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4 Low_Rider


    Greetings,

    It could be tricky to qualify tomorrow with a bit of wind in L'town
    Are the greens in good nick

    It's a bit scabby on l'towns part by only offering 9 - 4 mon - Fri to practice BTW


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 998 ✭✭✭Kingdom


    Low_Rider wrote: »
    Greetings,

    It could be tricky to qualify tomorrow with a bit of wind in L'town
    Are the greens in good nick

    It's a bit scabby on l'towns part by only offering 9 - 4 mon - Fri to practice BTW

    Welcome Low Rider! Are you playing in the Scramble tomorrow? It will be tough to qualify.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4 Low_Rider


    Kingdom wrote: »
    Welcome Low Rider! Are you playing in the Scramble tomorrow? It will be tough to qualify.

    Yes, I shall be participating in the aforementioned "Scramble" tomorrow, It will be tough to qualify, but not impossible,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 998 ✭✭✭Kingdom


    Wigertoods wrote: »
    Jesus Kingdom you had me thinking hard there for a minute.That was a long time ago.Couldn't be seen to be beaten by an Inter :D (Think of the stick I'd have got).

    Too long! We don't have those type of qualifying scenarios in offaly too often, although there was a superb game on the last night last year between joe mcgrath and Billy buckley last year.
    Didn't realise you were out of action Wigertoods. hope it sorts itself out soon enough.
    I'll post the scores at our end.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 998 ✭✭✭Kingdom


    Low_Rider wrote: »
    Yes, I shall be participating in the aforementioned "Scramble" tomorrow, It will be tough to qualify, but not impossible,

    Good stuff. What club do you play out of Lowrider?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32 DugOut


    Anyone playing in the Dublin Mixed S/f V par finals this weekend at Portmarnock? I hope the greens are as good as they were last year.

    I also see the Cement scr cup is on this Sunday. Anyone playing?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4 Low_Rider


    Kingdom wrote: »
    Good stuff. What club do you play out of Lowrider?


    I come from a Land far far away:pac::confused:;):p:):cool:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 998 ✭✭✭Kingdom


    DugOut wrote: »
    Anyone playing in the Dublin Mixed S/f V par finals this weekend at Portmarnock? I hope the greens are as good as they were last year.

    I also see the Cement scr cup is on this Sunday. Anyone playing?

    Heard the greens were ok from a Portmarnock player a couple of weeks ago. Cement scratch cup on Sunday should get a good crowd, always a course in good condition. surprised it hasn't had a Leinster or National competition recently/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 783 ✭✭✭HITMANHEALY


    Low_Rider wrote: »
    Greetings,

    It could be tricky to qualify tomorrow with a bit of wind in L'town
    Are the greens in good nick

    It's a bit scabby on l'towns part by only offering 9 - 4 mon - Fri to practice BTW

    Low rider, nothing we could do mate, i told the board when offering the course that we had a weekly competition the week of the scramble and it was ok, there to blame, grrens have picked up really well and they should be a joy to putt some very fast and tricky hole positions


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 783 ✭✭✭HITMANHEALY


    Low_Rider wrote: »
    I come from a Land far far away:pac::confused:;):p:):cool:

    Lowrider u prob know who i am from loughlinstown, also what club u play out of


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 998 ✭✭✭Kingdom


    Low rider, nothing we could do mate, i told the board when offering the course that we had a weekly competition the week of the scramble and it was ok, there to blame, grrens have picked up really well and they should be a joy to putt some very fast and tricky hole positions

    To be fair Hitman, the last time I played a qual competition in Loughlinstown the same complaints surfaced, as they did the time before that when I was an Inter, I'm not saying its gamesmanship, but there's only so much to a coincidence, if you catch my drift. :)
    Anyway nevermind the practice, I'm sure if the oitlanders are decent enough teams they'll be decent enough to qualify.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4 Low_Rider


    Lowrider u prob know who i am from loughlinstown, also what club u play out of

    I'm an outsider:rolleyes:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 998 ✭✭✭Kingdom


    Low_Rider wrote: »
    I'm an outsider:rolleyes:

    I can understand people not wanting to say who they are, but I think it would be no harm for people to post what club they are affiliated to.
    That way it would cut out wumming as such to a certain degree.
    I'm Tullamore.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 72 ✭✭Dromcill


    Saint Stephens in Glanmire, Cork


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 998 ✭✭✭Kingdom


    Dromcill wrote: »
    Saint Stephens in Glanmire, Cork

    Good stuff dromcill, never played it (like lots of the cork courses) but hope to get down there soon enough.

    Thats John Mannings old club isn't it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 72 ✭✭Dromcill


    That is correct. Try and make it down for our Open week. Our Scratch cup is on Sunday 11th May. The course is in good nick and we have a couple of nice signature holes


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 998 ✭✭✭Kingdom


    Dromcill wrote: »
    That is correct. Try and make it down for our Open week. Our Scratch cup is on Sunday 11th May. The course is in good nick and we have a couple of nice signature holes

    thats not going to be possible dromcill thats a non-pitch&putt weekend for me! I was more trying to organise a few days towards the end of the summer of playing all the cork courses.
    You might be able to give some advice actually.....whats this newcestown course like? I've always wanted to play claycastle for some reason too!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92 ✭✭Eegorbishcan


    Is There really any real standard for pitch and putt?
    Surely its just practice for the real game (golf)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,676 ✭✭✭The Artist


    fermoy pitch and putt club co cork:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 998 ✭✭✭Kingdom


    Is There really any real standard for pitch and putt?
    Surely its just practice for the real game (golf)

    Good one, I suppose Gaa is a warm up for Aussie Rules?
    I would like to see the best golf amateurs try their hand in our PPUI championships. I really would. I hate this "little fellow" attitude towards pitch and putt.
    Did you even bother to read through the thread?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92 ✭✭Eegorbishcan


    Not a chance GAA isn't even in the same league as aussie rules!!

    Its not a little man attitude, I never really thought of Chess as a sport until I got involved in that, now I can't get enough of it... I was asking the question cause I was looking to be enlightened... What makes it a sport in itself? It is a variation of golf, so I just assumed it was an easy version of the gameicon5.gif


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 998 ✭✭✭Kingdom


    Not a chance GAA isn't even in the same league as aussie rules!!

    Its not a little man attitude, I never really thought of Chess as a sport until I got involved in that, now I can't get enough of it... I was asking the question cause I was looking to be enlightened... What makes it a sport in itself? It is a variation of golf, so I just assumed it was an easy version of the gameicon5.gif

    Ok apologies. It really depends who you talk to. We (well most who have posted here) are members of clubs affiliated to the PPUI, who have strict rules and regulations, such as handicaps, clubs, course rules, distances, that while are similar to golf, are different.
    There are very few commercial courses(if any) in the PPUI, any that I know of are members clubs with their own constitutions.
    The PPUI is split up into 3 grades for adults and their is also a Juniors(U/16) grade. Competitions and team events are organised on a National, Provincial and County basis. Clubs also have their own championships. The standard at senior level is excellent, courses range from simplistic to tough and from basic to exquisite. Some courses have to be played to be appreciated, such as my own, Tullamore, Cashel, Glenville in Tallaght and Fermoy in Cork are probably the best example of pitch and putt. Both have a truely wonderful course and facilities (including bar), while Glenville has a membership exceeding 500 if I'm correct.
    try www.ppui.ie/ and have a read.
    If you let us know what area you're based we would be able to recommend a club to you.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 998 ✭✭✭Kingdom


    davey180 wrote: »
    fermoy pitch and putt club co cork:D

    Good stuff Davey.
    As it stands we have:

    HitmanHealy - Loughlinstown
    Wigertoods - CYMC
    Kingdom - Tullamore
    Davey - Fermoy
    Dromcill - St Stephens
    Draupnir - Shandon

    Leinster majority! :D

    DugOut and Lowrider are anonymous still. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 235 ✭✭Wigertoods


    @Kingdom
    i wanted to be anonymous too.Don't know how anyone figured out who i was :D

    Seriously though,It's great to see that we now have a few more p&P players coming out of the closet and participating here.I think for so long now we've all been lurking on the golf forum and putting our little contributions in her and there.Hopefully we can keep this up and maybe get a few more contributors and then even "our own" forum.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,676 ✭✭✭The Artist


    Is There really any real standard for pitch and putt?
    Surely its just practice for the real game (golf)
    here gos nothing imo that a golfer would not have a chance playing against a good pitch and putt player off scratch.As i say it does require a lot of skill at that game.pitch and putt players are great chippers and for golf players wounldnt use much chipping onto greens.Id agree that golfers would be great at putting as they play on large greens imo.As for pitch and putt is a fast growing game and i enjoy the craic of it.I have nothing against golf and enjoy watching big tournaments on sky.Pitch and putt is a good affordable game for the young and old.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 235 ✭✭Wigertoods


    Kingdom wrote: »
    Ok apologies. It really depends who you talk to. We (well most who have posted here) are members of clubs affiliated to the PPUI, who have strict rules and regulations, such as handicaps, clubs, course rules, distances, that while are similar to golf, are different.
    There are very few commercial courses(if any) in the PPUI, any that I know of are members clubs with their own constitutions.
    The PPUI is split up into 3 grades for adults and their is also a Juniors(U/16) grade. Competitions and team events are organised on a National, Provincial and County basis. Clubs also have their own championships. The standard at senior level is excellent, courses range from simplistic to tough and from basic to exquisite. Some courses have to be played to be appreciated, such as my own, Tullamore, Cashel, Glenville in Tallaght and Fermoy in Cork are probably the best example of pitch and putt. Both have a truely wonderful course and facilities (including bar), while Glenville has a membership exceeding 500 if I'm correct.
    try www.ppui.ie/ and have a read.
    If you let us know what area you're based we would be able to recommend a club to you.
    davey180 wrote: »
    here gos nothing imo that a golfer would not have a chance playing against a good pitch and putt player off scratch.As i say it does require a lot of skill at that game.pitch and putt players are great chippers and for golf players wounldnt use much chipping onto greens.Id agree that golfers would be great at putting as they play on large greens imo.As for pitch and putt is a fast growing game and i enjoy the craic of it.I have nothing against golf and enjoy watching big tournaments on sky.Pitch and putt is a good affordable game for the young and old.

    well said lads.
    It's quite annoying when people be-little our sport with respect to golf.
    There are so many uneducated people who don't realize that p&p is a very competitive and skillful sport.
    I'm quite certain that most of us in this thread play golf from time to time and I'm also quite certain that the same people here would have a much better short game playing golf than most of the posters in the golf forum.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 72 ✭✭Dromcill


    I find too that most golfers think that Pitch and Putt is a mickey mouse sport which requires little skill and is beneath them to play. Best thing to do is challenge any golfing Pitch and Putt bashers to a game. They will soon change their tune. I play a bit of golf with golf societies and have found that Pitch and Putt definitely helps your golf game (around the greens) but that the standard golfer cannot adapt to Pitch and Putt as the emphasis the majority of the time in golf is to use a full extended swing. This does not work on the 25m to 40m Pitch and Putt holes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,676 ✭✭✭The Artist


    Dromcill wrote: »
    I find too that most golfers think that Pitch and Putt is a mickey mouse sport which requires little skill and is beneath them to play. Best thing to do is challenge any golfing Pitch and Putt bashers to a game. They will soon change their tune. I play a bit of golf with golf societies and have found that Pitch and Putt definitely helps your golf game (around the greens) but that the standard golfer cannot adapt to Pitch and Putt as the emphasis the majority of the time in golf is to use a full extended swing. This does not work on the 25m to 40m Pitch and Putt holes.
    +1


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 72 ✭✭Dromcill


    Back from the National Scramble qualifiers in Cork. My team came 7th of 24 so we qualify for the National finals in Dublin. We got a score of 75 and a 1/3rd Nett. The best score was 70 and a 1/3rd Nett. The best gross score was 29 under which is some shooting for 36 holes. How did you all do in your respective qualifiers?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,548 ✭✭✭Draupnir


    I guess it would be easier if we had our own forum, but would anyone have the time to explain the scoring systems for the different competitions and how they are actually played, eg three players on a team in a scramble and how they score etc.

    I am going to post in feedback now to request a forum or sub forum as I think we are more than busyenough to justify one


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 783 ✭✭✭HITMANHEALY


    Hello All

    Dublin Qualifying went well yesterday, course was in great condition a lot of good comments from the outside clubs.

    Scores were as follows

    RGSC 67 Handicap 10 - best nett
    Loughlinstown 31 under gross - my team
    79 was the cut - 21 teams through


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 72 ✭✭Dromcill


    Well done HITMAN. That was great scoring by your team. Should be good fun at the finals. I am expecting some crazy low NETT scoring. Whats the Lucan course like?.


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