Removing shirt

pickarooney

Why the hell do players insist on doing this when it's a guaranteed yellow card? What possible purpose does it serve to take off your jersey and swing it over your head other than to put pressure on yourself to behave for the rest of the match?
Is it sheer congenital idiocy or is there some historic reason they do this?

Xavi6

It should be allowed imo.

Evil_Clown

I think players writing political slogans and the likes on their vests is one of the reasons why they started punishing this.

Xavi6

Evil_Clown wrote: »

I think players writing political slogans and the likes on their vests is one of the reasons why they started punishing this.

Nah it was the sight of Ryan Giggs' hairy chest that did it.

leninbenjamin

i'm pretty sure it's because they don't want players making political or religious statements with something written on the shirt underneath, that we often see.

hanton12

hmmm, I also thought it was exposing the chest rather than having something written on a tshirt. wasnt Uwe Rosler one of the first to be yellow carded for it? Xavi?

Evil_Clown

Xavi6 wrote: »

Nah it was the sight of Ryan Giggs' hairy chest that did it.

Wasn't that an ad for Des Kelly Carpets ??:D

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Evil_Clown wrote: »

Wasn't that an ad for Des Kelly Carpets ??:D

Giggzy 4 Boez!

BaZmO*

Xavi6 wrote: »

It should be allowed imo.

Xavi6 likes looking at naked men!!!

Sherifu

Stops players like Ian Wright wearing multiple shirts and getting confused about which one to reveal after he scores. :pac:

Dun laoire

I can only imagine a player has a mini explosion inside the head and momentarily turns neanderthal (sp?) when he scores. Especially when it's such a crucial goal.

Dave!

Dunno what the point of it is sometimes...... Defoe took off his shirt on the weekend and he was just wearing a plain blue top underneath Got booked for it too, pointless.

Xavi6

hanton12 wrote: »

hmmm, I also thought it was exposing the chest rather than having something written on a tshirt. wasnt Uwe Rosler one of the first to be yellow carded for it? Xavi?

I actually haven't a clue tbh

BaZmO* wrote: »

Xavi6 likes looking at naked men!!!

Ha ha rumbled.

But seriously, I think it should be allowed because I like players who just do off the cuff things when expressing their emotion at scoring a goal. Whether it's taking off their shirt, getting on all fours and waddling like a duck or knighting somebody with a corner flag, it should all be allowed.

Dave!

Xavi6 wrote: »

But seriously, I think it should be allowed because I like players who just do off the cuff things when expressing their emotion at scoring a goal. Whether it's taking off their shirt, getting on all fours and waddling like a duck or knighting somebody with a corner flag, it should all be allowed.

Any limits? Would ya allow religious and political messages to be transmitted in that manner? I presume you wouldn't allow sexual references

Xavi6

DaveMcG wrote: »

Any limits? Would ya allow religious and political messages to be transmitted in that manner? I presume you wouldn't allow sexual references

Ah come on, surely you realise I didn't mean crossing boundaries like that. Obviously Fowler-touchline-sniffing-esque celebrations are a no go but the fun stuff shouldn't be banned.

Dave!

fair enough, just wanted to push ya :pac:

Loomis

hanton12 wrote: »

hmmm, I also thought it was exposing the chest rather than having something written on a tshirt. wasnt Uwe Rosler one of the first to be yellow carded for it? Xavi?

Then players shouldn't be allowed exchange shirt after a game.

It's a ridiculous rule that should be removed. The game is being stifled enough.

leninbenjamin

Xavi6 wrote: »

Ah come on, surely you realise I didn't mean crossing boundaries like that. Obviously Fowler-touchline-sniffing-esque celebrations are a no go but the fun stuff shouldn't be banned.

meh... it's not difficult, for the non intellectually challenged at least, to come up with an alternative to taking off the shirt. the rules in place, and stupid or not, the players should grow the fuck up frankly.

Dun laoire

Totally out of character for me but i did it when i saved a penalty in a shootout to take us to a semi final of a cup. I ran around like a headless chicken and just wanted to swing my shirt around over my head. It's not something i planned to do it just happened with all the adrenlin bursting inside. We lost the semi's after countless goalkeeping errors

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Dun laoire wrote: »

Totally out of character for me but i did it when i saved a penalty in a shootout to take us to a semi final of a cup. I ran around like a headless chicken and just wanted to swing my shirt around over my head. It's not something i planned to do it just happened with all the adrenlin bursting inside. We lost the semi's after countless goalkeeping errors

Your team should have forfeitted that match tbh.

Your antics have no place on a soccer pitch.

:rolleyes:

Reganio 2

I think it came about the season after Forlan took his shirt off and spent the next like 15 mins trying to put it back on. Probably could have helped in their decision.

As for doing it I think it should be allowed if you score the winner in the 92nd minute of the Champions League final, you are not going to think oh better not do that as I will get a yelow card.

shane86

In fairness its hardly a guaranteed card, it depends on whether the ref is a spa or not.

Ribery did it when he scored against England and had some tribute to a recently deceased sports journo underneath. Im nearly certain Drogba did it last week as well, and also ran up to the crowd.

Obviously Fowler-touchline-sniffing-esque celebrations are a no go but the fun stuff shouldn't be banned.

Meh, I still think it was funny Ditto Bellamy and his goal putt celebration

Lex Luthor

DaveMcG wrote: »

Dunno what the point of it is sometimes...... Defoe took off his shirt on the weekend and he was just wearing a plain blue top underneath Got booked for it too, pointless.

ya and he cost me 1 fantasy football point :mad:

I can see it now...all the lads shouting..."NO you moron, leave your shirt on you just cost me fantasy footie points" and the ladies shouting "GET THEM OFF YA GOOD THING...!!!!!!!!"

Pigman II

They should make backflips and the like a booking as well.

It's all just agents telling players to show off in order to grab the limelight.

jacool

I can see that Drogba's was a pure release of emotion after scoring v Arsenal, so I was a little disappointed that he didn't do it again after the second goal !! As its a rule, then if it is applied correctly then its a booking. Its probably the only one refs apply correctly. That's the main problem. But as to should it be a booking I'd say no, but the Nike jersey within a jersey that Forlan got lost in was hilarious. I think that's why he never bothered scoring again for United !

BaZmO*

Lex Luthor wrote: »

and the ladies shouting "GET THEM OFF YA GOOD THING...!!!!!!!!"

Not just the ladies, Xavi6 too.

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BaZmO* wrote: »

Not just the ladies, Xavi6 too.

And Mr Alan when it's Torres.

And me when it's Hunty.

Galvasean

I remember seeing Juninho delay a World Cup match for about 4 minutes when he got tangled up in his shirt.

BaZmO*

DesF wrote: »

And Mr Alan when it's Torres.

And me when it's Hunty.

Well Mr Alan can be forgiven as Torres is a girly man, but Hunty?? CAPTAIN CAVEMAAAAAAAN!!!
I think it's the hair that does it for ya Des

Dun laoire

DesF wrote: »

Your team should have forfeitted that match tbh.

Your antics have no place on a soccer pitch.

:rolleyes:

You're funny

grames_bond

shane86 wrote: »

In fairness its hardly a guaranteed card, it depends on whether the ref is a spa or not.

no according to the rules the removal of the shirt for a celebration gets an automatic yellow! i dont get it, i originally thaught it was the exposure of the nipples (indecent exposure) then it was changed because its like going into the crowd, it riles them up too much when they are swinging the jersys....apparantly!!

Pigman II

grames_bond wrote: »

i originally thaught it was the exposure of the nipples

If you tweek them it should be red (the card, not the nipples).

Pepe LeFrits

As they are going around, can I have some thanks please?

Thanks.

Pigman II

thanks

Pepe LeFrits

Thanks.

Pigman II

thanks.

Pepe LeFrits

A full stop this time? Nice.

Thanks.

Pigman II

Variety is the spice of life

thanks v.much

Pepe LeFrits

Have you some kind of moral objection to using a capital T? All I want is a proper thanks. You ****.

Thanks all the same though.

Pigman II

That would be Tantamount to Taunting.

thanks.

Pepe LeFrits

Dammit! Now I'm too proud of you to be mad at you.

Wanna go for some scuba?

Pigman II

That would be delightful.

Dave!

Cheers.

shane86

grames_bond wrote: »

no according to the rules the removal of the shirt for a celebration gets an automatic yellow!

According to the rules, yes.

According to reality it doesnt seem to be.


A bit like the way technically a foul in the peno box is the same as any other foul elsewhere , but in reality to actually get a spot kick out of it the defending player has to attempt to murder or seriously wound the attacking player.;)

ITT-Pat

Galvasean wrote: »

I remember seeing Juninho delay a World Cup match for about 4 minutes when he got tangled up in his shirt.

ah but sure it was only the final

zuchum

after seeing Ribery's shirt message the other day I had a thought...

you have to score to show that message and its not guaranteed that they'll get a goal.
there must be players who never get to reveal their message.
i wonder how many times did diego forlan wear a vest saying : "i knew it would be today"?

Dont be at yourself

It's still OK to do a Ravenelli, right?

Xavi6

NekkidBibleMan wrote: »

It's still OK to do a Ravenelli, right?

Pretty sure that's a bookable offence too.

Syke

I really don't understand the booking for goal celebrations. Football is a passionate game, surely the referees are smart enough to use their heads in deciding what is and isn't unsportsmanlike.

Xavi6

Syke wrote: »

I really don't understand the booking for goal celebrations. Football is a passionate game, surely the referees are smart enough to use their heads in deciding what is and isn't unsportsmanlike.

There's the hole in your argument I'm afraid.

ShiverinEskimo

Isn't the automatic yellow in relation to complaints from the sponsors/shirt makers.

If the player takes his shirt off its removing the sponsors logo from absolute certain up-close coverage as the camera will defo be on the goalscorer.